Should Donald Trump run in 2024?

[catfish1957]

Come on, @catfish1957 Gimme a break.

"Ego" has nothing to do with it.  More than half the country would vote for him if given the opportunity.

His ability to stay awake and focus for 18 hours each day may have been affected simply by his age.  He alone will know.

He'll have to learn to dictate responsibility, that's for sure.

But having him as POTUS going in as a Lame-Duck?  Priceless!!

Personality and abilities are two widely different things. I stand by what I said.

Don't get me wrong, though he may not be my first choice, if DJT is the candidate, he will get my support.  And 100% agreement on "lame duck" status.  An angry DJT who needs not to worry about another term will unleash the hounds of hell.

And that will be a good thing IMO

[Hoodat]

He was quite naïve about how things work in DC.

That's an understatement.  And four years later, he still hadn't figured that one out.

[Absalom]

I doubt @Absalom would be pissed. He would merely weep for what has been lost and what will be lost. As would I.

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Roamer, appreciate your wise observation.
I have been implying/asserting for a long time that voter obsession w/politics/politicians
rather than w/Principles & Precepts is the catalyst / driver of our severe malaise.
Yet the predictable suspects only interest lies in politics as their hourly rants affirm.
Those Wise Men who proceeded us, intuitively grasped that Man's conversation is a
metaphor for that which interests and absorbs his mind.
Sadly, the politically desperate have neither awareness nor interest in the likes of
Augustine, Ockham, Burke, Hume; among hundreds, as their daily scribblings affirm.
We cannot nor will not produce the likes of Jefferson, Madison & Monroe because
our self-labeled intellectual environment has embraced materialism as our
higher calling, replacing the catalyst for creative ideas; Man's spiritual sensibilities.


 

[Hoodat]

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I have been implying/asserting for a long time that voter obsession w/politics/politicians
rather than w/Principles & Precepts is the catalyst / driver of our severe malaise.

Doctor, heal thyself.

[jmyrlefuller]

Why shouldn't Trump run in 2024?  He hasn't been legally disqualified from seeking office.

Because of how the country imploded on his watch in the last year of his presidency, ruining any good will that he built the first three years. He allowed tyrannical bureaucrats to hijack our freedoms and run our country into the ground. He did that. He has to defend that. He has to defend not firing Anthony Fauci like he explicitly and repeatedly said he would. He has to defend the milquetoast behavior of his Supreme Court nominees. He has to defend the trillion-dollar budget deficits.

If the other GOP Pretenders to the Oval Office want to be President, they'll need to prove their value by WINNING.

Trump's opponents will need to demonstrate that they have more fortitude than an airport windsock.

That's the problem. Gaming the system to gain a political office for his own fame is not the same as value, and it's not the same as leadership and competence. That's the mistake we made in 2016 on the right. And it was a mistake. We have to look at that, remember all of us who were screaming to stop this man, and admit those people were right. Celebrities can win political office. Ask Jesse Ventura or Arnold Schwarzenegger. But that doesn't make them leaders.

[Fishrrman]

Fishrrman prediction:

Ron DeSantis isn't going to run for president in 2024.
His wife has a life-threatening case of breast cancer, and her recovery is uncertain.
He could very well be a widower with kids to care for by then.

If Mr. DeSantis has presidential aspirations, his BEST way forward would be to accept the vice presidential slot when Mr. Trump runs in '24. There is the Constitutional provision about prohibiting presidential and vice presidential candidates from the same state, but I predict that will be resolved by Mr. Trump "relocating" to New Jersey if he believes Mr. DeSantis should be on the ticket and DeSantis agrees.

IF he were to accept, Mr. DeSantis will boost Mr. Trump's chances (remember that The Party's "election apparatus" may be dormant but it will again be in full force in 2024) in the battleground states. And even if Mr. Trump were to lose, it would not damage Mr. DeSantis' chances in 2028. He will still be young and the obvious choice.

(unless Marjorie Taylor Greene wants the job by then.... hehe....)

[libertybele]

I don't have a Trump obsession, but who else is made of steel that is going to run? Cruz has mentioned that he'd like to run again, but I don't know if he's going to be able to deflect that arrows and poison darts that will be heading his way from the DEMS.

As I mentioned previously, DeSantis is staying in FL and his wife is battling aggressive breast cancer; so I think he's out.

Perhaps Greene. Maybe Pompeo? Noem??

[libertybele]

Because of how the country imploded on his watch in the last year of his presidency, ruining any good will that he built the first three years. He allowed tyrannical bureaucrats to hijack our freedoms and run our country into the ground. He did that. He has to defend that. He has to defend not firing Anthony Fauci like he explicitly and repeatedly said he would. He has to defend the milquetoast behavior of his Supreme Court nominees. He has to defend the trillion-dollar budget deficits.
 That's the problem. Gaming the system to gain a political office for his own fame is not the same as value, and it's not the same as leadership and competence. That's the mistake we made in 2016 on the right. And it was a mistake. We have to look at that, remember all of us who were screaming to stop this man, and admit those people were right. Celebrities can win political office. Ask Jesse Ventura or Arnold Schwarzenegger. But that doesn't make them leaders.

The country imploded?  So COVID was his fault?  He was threatened NOT to fire FAUCI and I believe Pence was involved in that.

I do most absolutely believe he should have calmed the insurrection as he promised from the get go.  He had the authority and instead he allowed it to be politicized.

He also had a great opportunity with a full majority in both Houses to get that wall built. He didn't.

We can lay out all the faults @jmyrlefuller but so far no one is stepping up to the plate and I believe Trump is looking like the best shot at the GOP gaining the oval office ... that is if he is healthy enough and wants to take on the major DEM headache again.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Because of how the country imploded on his watch in the last year of his presidency, ruining any good will that he built the first three years. He allowed tyrannical bureaucrats to hijack our freedoms and run our country into the ground. He did that. He has to defend that. He has to defend not firing Anthony Fauci like he explicitly and repeatedly said he would. He has to defend the milquetoast behavior of his Supreme Court nominees. He has to defend the trillion-dollar budget deficits.

 Now do Biden @jmyrlefuller

[jmyrlefuller]

Now do Biden @jmyrlefuller

He has to defend letting that puppet steal another election for the Democrats.

[DB]

The country imploded?  So COVID was his fault?  He was threatened NOT to fire FAUCI and I believe Pence was involved in that.

I do most absolutely believe he should have calmed the insurrection as he promised from the get go.  He had the authority and instead he allowed it to be politicized.

He also had a great opportunity with a full majority in both Houses to get that wall built. He didn't.

We can lay out all the faults @jmyrlefuller but so far no one is stepping up to the plate and I believe Trump is looking like the best shot at the GOP gaining the oval office ... that is if he is healthy enough and wants to take on the major DEM headache again.

By the time Biden is done nearly any Republican will be able to win the White House. Trump had his four years and it was chaos from start to finish. Lets give someone a try that has actual leadership skills that can motivate people to work as a team instead of a headmaster making demands/threats that alienates nearly everyone. Lets also vote for someone that has an understanding of the constitution because that isn't Trump. Trump certainly did some things right but some of the things he did wrong were devastating - such as signing off on spending about ten trillion dollars we didn't have. That was a substantial factor in the inflation in prices (the devaluing of the dollar) we are experiencing now. Biden just went further with the insanity.

[deb]

Many of the things Trump did right were undone the second Biden entered the White House. I’d like someone who will lead NOT by executive order. That said, if he is the nominee, I will probably vote for him.