Hillary Clinton warns Democrats against far-left turn before 2022 midterms

[mystery-ak]

 Hillary Clinton warns Democrats against far-left turn before 2022 midterms
By Mark Moore   
December 30, 2021 1:32pm

Former secretary of state and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton appeared to single out progressive lawmakers for criticism in a recent interview, warning that an inability to “get things done” could cost Democrats the House and Senate in next year’s midterm elections.

“I think that it is a time for some careful thinking about what wins elections, and not just in deep-blue districts where a Democrat and a liberal Democrat, or so-called progressive Democrat, is going to win,” Clinton told MSNBC’s Willie Geist. “I understand why people want to argue for their priorities. That’s what they believe they were elected to do.”

Clinton’s interview with Geist was recorded earlier this month, but parts of it aired Thursday.

The former senator from New York added that she was “all about having vigorous debate. I think it’s good, and it gives people a chance to be part of the process.

“But at the end of the day it means nothing if we don’t have a Congress that will get things done, and we don’t have a White House that we can count on to be sane and sober and stable and productive.”

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https://nypost.com/2021/12/30/hillary-clinton-warns-progressives-could-cost-dems-at-midterms/

[Right_in_Virginia]

What the hell does this jackass think the democrats have been doing throughout 2021?

[mountaineer]

The Dems pretty much vote in lock-step anymore, don't they, apart from Sinema and Manchin? I didn't see real criticism of progressives. There was, however, criticism of the demented old man in the White House ("sane and sober").

[GtHawk]

What the hell does this jackass think the democrats have been doing throughout 2021?

How would she know, she's been drunk almost the whole time. Hitlary probably thinks she is sounding like a moderate saying this, but that can't erase decades of her attempts to push socialism on the American people.....under her guidance/rule that is.

[240B]

Fox News
By Brandon Gillespie
Published 1 day ago

Former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton took a shot at progressive Democrats this month, appearing to blame them for the inability of the Democrat-controlled Congress to "get things done," and suggesting they could be the cause of potential party losses in the 2022 midterm elections.

During an interview with MSNBC's Willie Geist that took place earlier this month and aired in part on Thursday, Clinton implored Democrats to start thinking about the party's ability to win elections overall and not just in deep-blue districts where they were assured victory.

Geist turned the interview's attention to the topic, asking Clinton what she saw as the current state of the Democratic Party.

"I think that it is a time for some careful thinking about what wins elections, and not just in deep-blue districts where a Democrat and a liberal Democrat, or so-called progressive Democrat, is going to win," Clinton said. "I understand why people want to argue for their priorities. That’s what they believe they were elected to do."

HILLARY CLINTON IS BEGGING DEMOCRATS TO CONSIDER HER AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO BIDEN: DEVINE

"Look, I'm all about having vigorous debate. I think it’s good, and it gives people a chance to be part of the process," she added. "But, at the end of the day it means nothing if we don’t have a Congress that will get things done, and we don’t have a White House that we can count on to be sane and sober and stable and productive."

(more)
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-progressive-democrats-suggests-2022-election-losses

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Only posted this because the very words, sane and stable coming from Hillary is priceless, not to mention her babbling on about being sober. But yes, this is a clear indication that Hillary is no longer counting on 'joining' the Biden administration. She is clearly now intent on attacking and defeating Biden. What she has in mind exactly is unclear. Interesting times.

[Killer Clouds]

Fox News
By Brandon Gillespie
Published 1 day ago

Former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton took a shot at progressive Democrats this month, appearing to blame them for the inability of the Democrat-controlled Congress to "get things done," and suggesting they could be the cause of potential party losses in the 2022 midterm elections.

During an interview with MSNBC's Willie Geist that took place earlier this month and aired in part on Thursday, Clinton implored Democrats to start thinking about the party's ability to win elections overall and not just in deep-blue districts where they were assured victory.

Geist turned the interview's attention to the topic, asking Clinton what she saw as the current state of the Democratic Party.

"I think that it is a time for some careful thinking about what wins elections, and not just in deep-blue districts where a Democrat and a liberal Democrat, or so-called progressive Democrat, is going to win," Clinton said. "I understand why people want to argue for their priorities. That’s what they believe they were elected to do."

HILLARY CLINTON IS BEGGING DEMOCRATS TO CONSIDER HER AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO BIDEN: DEVINE

"Look, I'm all about having vigorous debate. I think it’s good, and it gives people a chance to be part of the process," she added. "But, at the end of the day it means nothing if we don’t have a Congress that will get things done, and we don’t have a White House that we can count on to be sane and sober and stable and productive."

(more)
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-progressive-democrats-suggests-2022-election-losses

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Only posted this because the very words, sane and stable coming from Hillary is priceless, not to mention her babbling on about being sober. But yes, this is a clear indication that Hillary is no longer counting on 'joining' the Biden administration. She is clearly now intent on attacking and defeating Biden. What she has in mind exactly is unclear. Interesting times.

It's getting to the point the DCP can't defend their own stupidity.

[Mod2]

Threads merged

[Cyber Liberty]

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Only posted this because the very words, sane and stable coming from Hillary is priceless, not to mention her babbling on about being sober. But yes, this is a clear indication that Hillary is no longer counting on 'joining' the Biden administration. She is clearly now intent on attacking and defeating Biden. What she has in mind exactly is unclear. Interesting times.

Can we hope for another Kennedy-Carter fiasco?

[Mesaclone]

This is important. Its a very clear sign she's running in 2024. What she's doing is Triangulation 101.

Clinton is being smart, and tactical. She's positioning herself as the voice of the "moderate-centrist" Left because she fully understands that the the DNC and the Dem party's obvious left turn is going to result in electoral disaster in the mid terms. When that happens...and she is outright ROOTING for it to happen...she emerges in the Dem party as the voice of the middle. The rational...moderate...centrist voice (the voice Biden said he'd be in the election and cleared failed to be in office).

This is nothing less than Hillary Clinton staking out the Dem establishment leadership position and preparing for 2024...the press of course will proclaim her the savior of liberalism amid the party coming out of the ugly defeats they are going to undergo in the 2022 election.

This statement is the beginning of an effort to put herself forward as the voice of moderation, unity, centrism running against Donald Trump who the press is going to paint as "turbulent, right wing, and immoderate" (quite honestly, they are going to do that with ANY Republican who wins the nomination but they do have a head start when it comes to President Trump).

She is clever...evil...but clever...and she knows there is a big chunk of low information people in this country who simply want "normalcy". That desire will be played to by her and the media to draw in that vote and it CAN be decisive.

I hate this woman with a fiery passion, but we are wrong to dismiss or underestimate her. She is implementing a political calculus that could be very effective in 2024. The country has been through a lot and the next 2 years are going to be a continuing and chaotic mess...Hillary is trying to look like "calm normalcy" and she has a press that's going to paint the hell out of that picture. Its a lie...just as Biden being a "regular and moderate blue collar guy" was a lie...but its a powerful lie.

The GOP and conservatives better start finding better ways to show we can bring stability and calm to the country. We need clear plans for stabilizing the economy and dealing with inflation and debt...not cliches and axioms...specific policy initiatives. The winning concepts/perceptions of 2024 are going to be "stability, normalcy, rationality"...those words may mean almost nothing in terms of policy but they are going to be decisive when it comes to voter perception.

The "political" battle in 2024 will be about which side most embodies those three concepts. Hillary is getting an early start on making those three words her own and quite frankly, that scares the shit out of me.

[LMAO]

This is important. Its a very clear sign she's running in 2024. What she's doing is Triangulation 101.

Clinton is being smart, and tactical. She's positioning herself as the voice of the "moderate-centrist" Left because she fully understands that the the DNC and the Dem party's obvious left turn is going to result in electoral disaster in the mid terms. When that happens...and she is outright ROOTING for it to happen...she emerges in the Dem party as the voice of the middle. The rational...moderate...centrist voice (the voice Biden said he'd be in the election and cleared failed to be in office).

This is nothing less than Hillary Clinton staking out the Dem establishment leadership position and preparing for 2024...the press of course will proclaim her the savior of liberalism amid the party coming out of the ugly defeats they are going to undergo in the 2022 election.

This statement is the beginning of an effort to put herself forward as the voice of moderation, unity, centrism running against Donald Trump who the press is going to paint as "turbulent, right wing, and immoderate" (quite honestly, they are going to do that with ANY Republican who wins the nomination but they do have a head start when it comes to President Trump).

She is clever...evil...but clever...and she knows there is a big chunk of low information people in this country who simply want "normalcy". That desire will be played to by her and the media to draw in that vote and it CAN be decisive.

I hate this woman with a fiery passion, but we are wrong to dismiss or underestimate her. She is implementing a political calculus that could be very effective in 2024. The country has been through a lot and the next 2 years are going to be a continuing and chaotic mess...Hillary is trying to look like "calm normalcy" and she has a press that's going to paint the hell out of that picture. Its a lie...just as Biden being a "regular and moderate blue collar guy" was a lie...but its a powerful lie.

The GOP and conservatives better start finding better ways to show we can bring stability and calm to the country. We need clear plans for stabilizing the economy and dealing with inflation and debt...not cliches and axioms...specific policy initiatives. The winning concepts/perceptions of 2024 are going to be "stability, normalcy, rationality"...those words may mean almost nothing in terms of policy but they are going to be decisive when it comes to voter perception.

The "political" battle in 2024 will be about which side most embodies those three concepts. Hillary is getting an early start on making those three words her own and quite frankly, that scares the shit out of me.

You overestimate her. It seems too many on our side do

She lost the nomination against an amateur senator in 2008, she lost against a politically inexperienced businessman in 2016, she has high negatives, and, unlike her husband, she is not particularly politically talented

I don’t understand why so many on our side treat her as if she’s some kind of goddess who is unstoppable when the reality shows otherwise

Besides, if things continue as they are it’s not gonna matter who the Democrats run in 2024. That individual will have a major uphill battle

[Killer Clouds]

You overestimate her. It seems too many on our side do

She lost the nomination against an amateur senator in 2008, she lost against a politically inexperienced businessman in 2016, she has high negatives, and, unlike her husband, she is not particularly politically talented

I don’t understand why so many on our side treat her as if she’s some kind of goddess who is unstoppable when the reality shows otherwise

Besides, if things continue as they are it’s not gonna matter who the Democrats run in 2024. That individual will have a major uphill battle

That's the attitude that needs to be lost. The GOP is great for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and under estimating your opponents and taking given results for granted is why. We are suffering that right now. The mid terms are not a given. The GOP needs to campaign l I ke they are underdogs. The need to have viable solutions that can easily be understood by the general public. Then they need to do what they promise to do. The GOP also cannot run on DCP bad and we are good. Point out bad policy and give solutions and how the solutions will be implemented. Answer the question HOW. Promises are always made but are never explained how it will be done.

[Cyber Liberty]

That's the attitude that needs to be lost. The GOP is great for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and under estimating your opponents and taking given results for granted is why. We are suffering that right now. The mid terms are not a given. The GOP needs to campaign l I ke they are underdogs. The need to have viable solutions that can easily be understood by the general public. Then they need to do what they promise to do. The GOP also cannot run on DCP bad and we are good. Point out bad policy and give solutions and how the solutions will be implemented. Answer the question HOW. Promises are always made but are never explained how it will be done.

You keep saying Republicans are not running like they are behind, and after 2020, that's totally false.  What's disturbing is the Stupid Party won't replace the current losers (McConnell and McCarthy) if they win.  That has really bad implications for 2024 if we really do win this year.

[LMAO]

You keep saying Republicans are not running like they are behind, and after 2020, that's totally false.  What's disturbing is the Stupid Party won't replace the current losers (McConnell and McCarthy) if they win.  That has really bad implications for 2024 if we really do win this year.

And this is it right here. We seem to be able to win elections but we don’t know what to do with that victory.

The Republicans are going to take back the House  along with wins in state races and a great chance to take back the Senate. But none of that will matter one bit if the current leadership remains in charge.

[LMAO]

That's the attitude that needs to be lost. The GOP is great for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and under estimating your opponents and taking given results for granted is why. We are suffering that right now. The mid terms are not a given. The GOP needs to campaign l I ke they are underdogs. The need to have viable solutions that can easily be understood by the general public. Then they need to do what they promise to do. The GOP also cannot run on DCP bad and we are good. Point out bad policy and give solutions and how the solutions will be implemented. Answer the question HOW. Promises are always made but are never explained how it will be done.

Not at all. I’m not suggesting that conservatives should not campaign and present real, conservative solutions to the American public

But I reject the idea that our opposition is made up of  super men and super women  when they’re screwing up everything they touch including the cities they run

[mikezpen]

By "no left turn" she means "don't advertise it". That's all.

[Killer Clouds]

You keep saying Republicans are not running like they are behind, and after 2020, that's totally false.  What's disturbing is the Stupid Party won't replace the current losers (McConnell and McCarthy) if they win.  That has really bad implications for 2024 if we really do win this year.

What I'm saying is I keep hearing that there is going to be a huge red wave in the mid terms and every time I do I call BS! IT'S NOT A GIMME! The DCP has perfected the art of cheating. And yes another thing that is horrifying is McConnell and McCarthy.

[Cyber Liberty]

By "no left turn" she means "don't advertise it". That's all.

 

[Cyber Liberty]

What I'm saying is I keep hearing that there is going to be a huge red wave in the mid terms and every time I do I call BS! IT'S NOT A GIMME! The DCP has perfected the art of cheating. And yes another thing that is horrifying is McConnell and McCarthy.

In this we are in 100% agreement.  "In the bag" should never be in any consultant's vocabulary.  Nothing is a gimme, either in Law or Politics.

[Killer Clouds]

Not at all. I’m not suggesting that conservatives should not campaign and present real, conservative solutions to the American public

But I reject the idea that our opposition is made up of  super men and super women  when they’re screwing up everything they touch including the cities they run

The DCP doesn't have to be super anything. They have a huge amount of brainwashed sheeple that vote for anything with a (D) behind their name. And if the DCP can't win an election legitimately they cheat and steal it.

[mountaineer]

By "no left turn" she means "don't advertise it". That's all.

Indeed. She has no problem whatsoever with communism.

[Cyber Liberty]

Indeed. She has no problem whatsoever with communism.

She picked a subject about which she has a great passion for her Senior Thesis at Wellesley.

[The_Reader_David]

You keep saying Republicans are not running like they are behind, and after 2020, that's totally false.  What's disturbing is the Stupid Party won't replace the current losers (McConnell and McCarthy) if they win.  That has really bad implications for 2024 if we really do win this year.

I do not understand the antipathy to McConnell shown on this board.  Say the phrase "Supreme Court Justice Merrick Garland," think what it would really be like, say it again, think a little more about what it would really be like, then thank Mitch McConnell that the horrors you just imagined belongs to a fictional alternate history of the present, not actual reality.  Then consider all the other things the Left tried to get over the years that McConnell prevented from happening, whether as majority leader or minority leader.

[Cyber Liberty]

I do not understand the antipathy to McConnell shown on this board.  Say the phrase "Supreme Court Justice Merrick Garland," think what it would really be like, say it again, think a little more about what it would really be like, then thank Mitch McConnell that the horrors you just imagined belongs to a fictional alternate history of the present, not actual reality.  Then consider all the other things the Left tried to get over the years that McConnell prevented from happening, whether as majority leader or minority leader.

He stopped a bad Nomination, but does it make up for his gleeful destruction of the TEA Party, or of conservatives in general?  He is not on our side, he's on theirs.

[libertybele]

He stopped a bad Nomination, but does it make up for his gleeful destruction of the TEA Party, or of conservatives in general?  He is not on our side, he's on theirs.

Exactly. He has done far more harm than good over the years.  He needs to step down.

[Right_in_Virginia]

By "no left turn" she means "don't advertise it". That's all.

Yup.