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... For weeks now, Buttigieg has been touting the bill's huge subsidies for electric car purchasers. "The Build Back Better package includes tax incentives to help purchase an EV," Buttigieg tweeted on Nov. 1. "How would you use a discount of up to $12,500 toward an electric vehicle?" It's not a discount of course, but a government subsidy — the government giving consumers money with which to buy the car. But here's the big pitch: Those who take advantage of the government's big handout, Buttigieg said recently, would "never have to worry about gas prices again." Buttigieg said the subsidized electric cars would bestow the greatest benefits on people in rural areas who drive long distances and urban residents who pay the highest gas prices. No more worries!

The problem, of course, is that cars have to run on something. Electric vehicles run on electricity, which is not free. And — this was not part of Buttigieg's pitch — the Biden administration is seeking to make electricity more expensive. "The administration's plans for a 'clean' electricity sector (by 2035) are really pricey," notes former Congressional Budget Office head Douglas Holtz-Eakin. "Two trillion dollars for generation, another $2 trillion for transmission, and an unknown price tag for distribution, but $1 trillion for 'the cost imposed on the distribution system by electric vehicle and photovoltaic solar panel adoption alone.' That bill is roughly $50 a week for consumers, which is in the same neighborhood as the gas costs that started this political firestorm. It's the energy costs, Pete, not just gasoline."

So just like the cost of the Build Back Better agenda is not "zero dollars," the cost of operating an electric car is far more than never having "to worry about gas prices again." The administration's free-stuff pitch is fundamentally deceptive.  ...
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If EVs are truly the better option for the consumer, then why the need for huge subsidies?
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Just pull over and charge it
Sorry all charging services are closed due to hook up main board frozen.
Circle back in a couple of days.
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In the owner’s manual of the Tesla Model S, you’ll find a stark warning: “In cold weather, some of the stored energy in the Battery may not be available on your drive because the battery is too cold.” snowflake symbol on the dash display  https://t.co/0OJIRWBu69
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Better turn those headlights off, too.
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Rick De La Garza
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Just pull over and charge it
Sorry all charging services are closed due to hook up main board frozen.
Circle back in a couple of days.
Have a nice day


Joni Job
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In the owner’s manual of the Tesla Model S, you’ll find a stark warning: “In cold weather, some of the stored energy in the Battery may not be available on your drive because the battery is too cold.” snowflake symbol on the dash display  https://t.co/0OJIRWBu69
Looks a lot like our weather lately...and why I do not anticipate ever owning an electric.
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SPECIAL REPORT: To build electric cars, manufacturers need to mine nickel.
To dig up more nickel, a mining company plans to bulldoze a section of pristine rainforest.
The “ethical dilemma” of when promising tech results in environmental harm:
How the rise of electric cars endangers the ‘last frontier’ of the Philippines; A mine that supplies nickel for the batteries that power electric vehicles is on the verge of a major expansion into a pristine rainforest.


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In the owner’s manual of the Tesla Model S, you’ll find a stark warning: “In cold weather, some of the stored energy in the Battery may not be available on your drive because the battery is too cold.” snowflake symbol on the dash display  https://t.co/0OJIRWBu69

Oh, that’s gonna work well for us in the upper Midwest. I’ll just plan on hibernating for half the year.

Has anyone figured out the average IQ of this administration? It must be on the very low side.
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The Buttgig guy is a retarded fool. The price point of virtually everything depends on fuel and transportation. Of course he is much too stupid to know this, but the price of gas involves much more than just going to work and back. This is one dimensional thinking.

'Never have to worry about gas prices again', true, unless you want to buy food or clothing or other goods. Then the price of gas becomes very important. Liberals are such naïve children. They do not live in our world, the world of reality.
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Oh, that’s gonna work well for us in the upper Midwest. I’ll just plan on hibernating for half the year.

Has anyone figured out the average IQ of this administration? It must be on the very low side.

Seven below up here this am.

Even gas powered engines can be rough starting in the cold
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Oh, that’s gonna work well for us in the upper Midwest. I’ll just plan on hibernating for half the year.

Has anyone figured out the average IQ of this administration? It must be on the very low side.
We're dealing with people who think 'Subzero' is a movie bad guy, not a temperature range.

It's only seventeen below out now, it was -20 when I got up.

Considering the distances between major towns in ND average about 110 miles, keeping the heater going for an hour and a half and the vehicle going 75 on the highway just to get to the next big town charging station is problematical, and failure could be fatal, because you can't run the heater...

And that only applies if you live in town.
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We're dealing with people who think 'Subzero' is a movie bad guy, not a temperature range.

It's only seventeen below out now, it was -20 when I got up.

I got all my doors and windows open right now.  Temp is above 70 here in North Georgia.  I keep trying to talk the wife into moving to South Dakota, but she ain't going for anything below 10 degrees.
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We wouldn't be worrying about has prices now if the Moonbats were not obstructing America's path to energy independence and self sufficiency.

Instead, the EV owners will have to worry about the price and availability of electricity as the Moonbat Mafia shutsdown America's coal-fired, gas-fired, oil-fired, nuclear, and hydro power plants.
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For a guy from Indiana, he sure doesn't know anything about what it's like to live in a rural area. Does he expect farmers to use electric tractors and combines, too?

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Truth to tell,I really don't think he knows much about anything. He got elected because the Dim money men backed him,and because he is queer and out wid it.

It guaranteed him the "diversity vote",which is VERY popular in the Airhead Party.
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I got all my doors and windows open right now.  Temp is above 70 here in North Georgia.  I keep trying to talk the wife into moving to South Dakota, but she ain't going for anything below 10 degrees.
Just tell her almost all of South Dakota is between 43 and 46 degrees year round (North Latitude) :laugh:
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Just tell her almost all of South Dakota is between 43 and 46 degrees year round (North Latitude) :laugh:

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So,she is right.
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Just tell her almost all of South Dakota is between 43 and 46 degrees year round (North Latitude) :laugh:

Are we talking degrees temperature, or degrees latitude, here?

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How is it that Buttigieg, who was mayor of a small city in Indiana, can possibly with a straight face spout the urbanite nonsense about electric vehicles as a panacea?

They are great if you live in a densely populated megalopolis with air pollution problems, never want to leave it (think about many New Yorkers and Angelinos) and thus never want to drive more than, say 150 miles roundtrip.  Were I a New Yorker or an Angelino, I'd want one, and would advocate my neighbors getting them, too, but once you get out into the heartland, yes, even into Indiana, they become an absurdity.

(There is a small fraction of the stupidity the American Left advocates that cannot be accounted for by their patently absurd Rousseauian tabula rasa view of human nature, their economic illiteracy, and their hatred of Christianity, and most of that small fraction is urbanite stupidity -- advocating things that are genuinely good in dense urban population centers as if they were universally good -- electric vehicles are part of that small fraction.)
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Are we talking degrees temperature, or degrees latitude, here?
Latitude, of course. The lines don't move with the seasons.

Temperatures vary, however, sometimes to the extreme:
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Latitude, of course. The lines don't move with the seasons.

Temperatures vary, however, sometimes to the extreme:

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