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« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2021, 03:16:46 pm »
   The Almighty Trump who handled everything they threw at him (according to you, RiV) couldn't even handle Megan Kelly for a second debate.
That's a real disqualifier..  :thud:

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« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2021, 03:17:02 pm »
I voted for DJT in 2016 with little enthusiasm.  In 2020, I fully supported President Trump.
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« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2021, 03:19:57 pm »
I voted for DJT in 2016 with little enthusiasm.  In 2020, I fully supported President Trump.
I voted with full enthusiasm in 2016, as a volunteer worked the inauguration and voted for him again in 2020...
He is rough around the edges but he's got guts....

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« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2021, 03:23:32 pm »
I voted with full enthusiasm in 2016, as a volunteer worked the inauguration and voted for him again in 2020...
He is rough around the edges but he's got guts....

 :yowsa: more than any other person to occupy that office in my considerably long lifetime @EdinVA if he had been supported by those in his own party in Washington we would not be in the mess we find ourselves today.
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« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2021, 03:44:45 pm »
:yowsa: more than any other person to occupy that office in my considerably long lifetime @EdinVA if he had been supported by those in his own party in Washington we would not be in the mess we find ourselves today.
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That was the socialists plan, keep Trump off balance and distracted so he could not undo more damage...

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« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2021, 03:46:11 pm »
@LMAO   I'm inviting you to let it rip .....  tell me what I overlooked.

Well, I haven’t had a chance to go look back at your previous posts so this may not apply to you specifically  but one glaring example is when a few House Republicans gave Biden  his infrastructure bill they were calls to primary them yet no such calls to dump Trump for giving congressional Democrats pretty much every spending bill they wanted while he was President

I can predict with 100% certainty what the reaction would be here if Mitch McConnell opposed  any investigation of the lawless Hillary Clinton because he believed “she suffered enough.”

Do you agree or disagree with Donald Trump’s position to not investigate Hillary Clinton because she suffered enough?
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« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2021, 03:48:52 pm »
   The Almighty Trump who handled everything they threw at him (according to you, RiV) couldn't even handle Megan Kelly for a second debate.

When Trump faced real heat, he folded. I’m not making fun of him but he had no experience in politics and he wasn’t used to the bloodsport nature of politics.

Things might’ve been different if he was a mayor, to eventually become a governor of a state. But I don’t think he understood how cruel politics can be
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« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2021, 03:57:19 pm »
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That was the socialists plan, keep Trump off balance and distracted so he could not undo more damage...

It had to be done @EdinVA FAR too many long political careers at risk, billions invested, and fellow travelers infiltrated into our government to allow it to all be torn down by Trump.
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« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2021, 03:59:54 pm »
Well, I haven’t had a chance to go look back at your previous posts so this may not apply to you specifically  but one glaring example is when a few House Republicans gave Biden  his infrastructure bill they were calls to primary them yet no such calls to dump Trump for giving congressional Democrats pretty much every spending bill they wanted while he was President

I can predict with 100% certainty what the reaction would be here if Mitch McConnell opposed  any investigation of the lawless Hillary Clinton because he believed “she suffered enough.”

Do you agree or disagree with Donald Trump’s position to not investigate Hillary Clinton because she suffered enough?

I ask you what I have overlooked that gives you license for endless ridicule and this is it?  This is the best you can come up with? 

You're still bent out of shape because the DOJ would not prosecute Hillary Clinton and as President Trump tried to polish a turd ---- and you think this is MY problem because I am not??

You need a new hobby.  This one's not serving you well.   :laugh:

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« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2021, 04:04:30 pm »
It had to be done @EdinVA FAR too many long political careers at risk, billions invested, and fellow travelers infiltrated into our government to allow it to all be torn down by Trump.

All this is true.

 But if Trump couldn’t break it down the first time he was in the White House, what makes people believe he’ll be able to do it if he gets another term?

I know, I’ve seen the claims of he needs a Congress that will assist him. Yet the Democrats made him the issue in 2018 and took Congress from the Republicans as a result.

What makes anybody think another Trump term would be any different?

I don’t deny that Trump really believes in America and Americans should come first. A stark contrast to the current administration. But all these questions and critiquing, to me, are not unfair

If I could devise the perfect president to run, it would be somebody with a limited government and liberty oriented mind of a Barry Goldwater, the fiscal conservatism of Calvin Coolidge, and the optimistic conservatism of Ronald Reagan, and the America first attitude of Donald Trump
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« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2021, 04:04:54 pm »
@Bigun
That was the socialists plan, keep Trump off balance and distracted so he could not undo more damage...
And while we're on the subject I'd settle for a mea culpa or two from some of his local critics who rode the Russia hoax and other scandals that we know now turned out to be such bovine scat that they had to fall back on his personality quirks.
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« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2021, 04:11:34 pm »
I ask you what I have overlooked that gives you license for endless ridicule and this is it?  This is the best you can come up with? 

You're still bent out of shape because the DOJ would not prosecute Hillary Clinton and as President Trump tried to polish a turd ---- and you think this is MY problem because I am not??

You need a new hobby.  This one's not serving you well.   :laugh:

Lol

Your reaction was exactly what I expected. Bravo

I know that I will not get an answer, but I will ask. Do you believe that Hillary Clinton has suffered enough to not warrant being, at the very least, investigated?

And do you believe that any Republican that give Democrats their spending wishes should be voted out of office?  If your answer is yes, do believe that also applies to Donald Trump? There was a time when conservatives did care about deficits and debt

Should be easy to answer these yes or no questions. I’m simply asking your positions on those issues





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« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2021, 04:14:15 pm »
All this is true.

 But if Trump couldn’t break it down the first time he was in the White House, what makes people believe he’ll be able to do it if he gets another term?

All that he has learned and millions of previously sleeping Americans now fully awake.

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I know, I’ve seen the claims of he needs a Congress that will assist him. Yet the Democrats made him the issue in 2018 and took Congress from the Republicans as a result.

What makes anybody think another Trump term would be any different?

See above.

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I don’t deny that Trump really believes in America and Americans should come first. A stark contrast to the current administration. But all these questions and critiquing, to me, are not unfair

If I could devise the perfect president to run, it would be somebody with a limited government and liberty oriented mind of a Barry Goldwater, the fiscal conservatism of Calvin Coolidge, and the optimistic conservatism of Ronald Reagan, and the America first attitude of Donald Trump

I would vote for that candidate without hesitation, but I do not see him anywhere.
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« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2021, 04:26:24 pm »
Lol

Your reaction was exactly what I expected. Bravo

I know that I will not get an answer, but I will ask. Do you believe that Hillary Clinton has suffered enough to not warrant being, at the very least, investigated?

And do you believe that any Republican that give Democrats they’re spending wishes should be voted out of office?  If your answer is yes, do believe that also applies to Donald Trump?

Should be easy to answer these yes or no questions. I’m simply asking your positions on those issues

These are not "issues".  These are talking points from a bitch session with pajama boys.

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« Reply #90 on: December 01, 2021, 04:31:47 pm »
These are not "issues".  These are talking points from a bitch session with pajama boys.

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All right

As I expected, you’re making  me the issue without answering my questions. They were very easy questions. Simply a yes or no. Why the reluctance to answer them?

None of these are talking points. These were positions that Donald Trump took.

One more time for the last time

Do you agree with Donald Trump signing Democrat spending bills that added nearly $8 trillion to the debt? Yes or no

Do you agree with him that there should have not been an investigation into Hillary Clinton‘s wrongdoing because she suffered enough? Yes or no

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« Reply #91 on: December 01, 2021, 04:34:53 pm »
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Do you believe that Hillary Clinton has suffered enough to not warrant being, at the very least, investigated?

I know this was not addressed to me @LMAO , but I will answer anyway.

I believe that Hillary and Bill Clinton are guilty of many crimes that should be investigated and prosecuted but I'm also realist enough to know that it's never going to happen in the carefully woven mess we currently have as a DOJ. 

See if you can find out who the prosecutor is, and who she is married to, in the Glassine Maxwell case ( I know but I want you to see if you can find out on your own).
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« Reply #92 on: December 01, 2021, 04:51:48 pm »
I know this was not addressed to me @LMAO , but I will answer anyway.

I believe that Hillary and Bill Clinton are guilty of many crimes that should be investigated and prosecuted but I'm also realist enough to know that it's never going to happen in the carefully woven mess we currently have as a DOJ. 

See if you can find out who the prosecutor is, and who she is married to, in the Glassine Maxwell case ( I know but I want you to see if you can find out on your own).


And everything you posted is right. It seems the Clintons get away with things that you and I would be sitting in prison for right now.

But the point is is he didn’t push for an investigation of her because he felt she suffered enough. What suffering?

We are in very big trouble in this country. Inflation is going to get worse. That is tied to overspending which requires more printing which puts us in more debt. Why do some react the way they do when some of us point out the fact that Donald Trump very much added onto that under his watch?

Our government bureaucracy’s are corrupt beyond saving. Why do some react the way they do when I simply point out that he refused to push for an investigation of swamp creature number one?







I am an unapologetic conservative. I believe that people can thrive but they just need government to get off their back‘s. But I also believe in law and order and we are a nation of laws. Laws should protect you from bad people. Right now it seems they protect the connected from people like yourself and I.

And I am a deficit hawk. I understand that spending cuts are going to be tough to implement politically. But if we don’t take a knife to every item in the budget, we’re going to be reminiscing about the “low” inflation of 2021

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« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2021, 04:44:31 am »
All this is true.

 But if Trump couldn’t break it down the first time he was in the White House, what makes people believe he’ll be able to do it if he gets another term?

 

@LMAO

That's not the point. The point is who else is even going to come close to accomplishing what Trump MIGHT be able to do?

Who else will even try or protest?

Name the candidate that would be better and even try to accomplish more.

Or even bring things to the surface for the voters to see?
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« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2021, 05:55:55 am »
What has Trump ever said or done that convinces you that he is the only person "willing to take the hits to make the changes", and that everyone else is "worried about their bank accounts and seniority"?  You actually think that every other politician cares more about their own immediate power and money than about their own grandchildren?  Only Trump cares more for his grandchildren?

Are you serious?

Where do people get this idea that Trump has some kind of unique, one-of-a-kind virtue, that he is exempt from the venial weaknesses that are common in all the rest of humanity?  What did he do to demonstrate that?  Was it when he didn't go to Vietnam because of bone spurs?  Was it when he had a reality TV show that bolstered his ego and pretensions of authority by allowing him to say "YOU'RE FIRED"?  Was it his use of bankruptcy to protect and re-organize businesses?  Was it when he came out with a line of steaks?  Was it buying a golf course or operating a resort?

None of those things are bad.  But none of them demonstrate any reason to think that Trump is some kind of unique servant-hearted hero who will bear all the scourges and attacks and slings and arrows to redeem the country for all the rest of us.  I'm not saying Trump has never helped anyone else or never contributed to charity or that he cares nothing for the country.  I am saying that there is absolutely nothing in his past actions to suggest that he has any kind of unique patriotism or care for the country or that he is invulnerable to the same corruptions of ego and power that go along with Federal office.
I see your point and have to make a couple of observations.

Prior to running for POTUS, Trump was his brand, literally. His name on everything, no more necessarily narcissism than seeing Henry J's last name on the go-zillion F-150s and other vehicles over the decades. Names associated with a brand are not uncommon in American History, and those who have that name become the face of the brand. With his brand in, among other things, high end hospitality properties, there is a certain level of preening that goes on beyond just 'keeping the light on for you', and standards to be maintained and displayed.

I can recall no other POTUS who donated their salary back. Now, a mere $400,000/ year might seem like chump change to one whose net worth is estimated in 10 figures, but it is not an insubstantial sum, $1.2 million over 4 years. If he was there for the money, either such actions would be great to hide behind while making a mint elsewhere, but it seems estimates are that being POTUS cost Trump dearly. I can think of no other candidate or office holder in D.C. who has come away with a smaller bank balance than they went there with, and Trump has not been accused of lacking business acumen.

So let's see these other patriots of whom you speak put their money where their mouth is.

As for the TV Show: free publicity for the brand, the line of steaks: a business venture, some win some lose. Ditto the vineyards. Not all of Trump's deals have been successful over the years, and not all of his ideas have been great ones (Trump Princess) even if they served a purpose. Like anything else, it is a learning process.

As for 2024, I think Trump has had, and will have had more time to reflect on who in D.C. is in which camp, who blows with the wind, and who just blows. Can he learn from that experience? Wanting loyalty just might be an expression of that, given the absolute perfidy exhibited by the likes of Milley and others.

And for the record, I don't worship Trump (didn't vote for him in 2016, voted Constitution Party instead), I'm just trying to be fair.

Do I think he should have signed the Dem spending bills? No, and I don't believe the Clintons should remain un-investigated, either, but I think there are bigger fish to fry. Washington has gone from a hotbed of corruption to a hotbed of treason, all for pecuniary gain. That corrupt mob needs to be dug out of our Government bureaucracy and elected positions and never, ever, hold office anywhere again. That would take someone with the stones to replace the DOJ, or much of it.

Still, it won't matter who gets in if the MSM continue to press an Anti-American agenda, and finding out who is funding that just might be key. We would not have turned over the American Press to the Axis in WWII, but WWIII is well under way, and there it is.
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« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2021, 06:12:28 am »
@LMAO

That's not the point. The point is who else is even going to come close to accomplishing what Trump MIGHT be able to do?

Who else will even try or protest?

Name the candidate that would be better and even try to accomplish more.

Or even bring things to the surface for the voters to see?

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I could 'see' a situation where Pres. Trump might not run...but it would entail the 2nd and 3rd runner-ups to publicly declare full support for any and all Economic and Regulatory policies endorsed by him.

If Ted Cruz declared "President Trump already showed up the way it's done.  All we have to do is turn the key!" ... I'd vote for him in a New York Minute.
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« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2021, 03:26:24 pm »
Trump was not good for the country.  His policies were. There are other republicans with some proding who could do the same.

@catfish1957

Really?

Who?

Name two.

They are all career politicians,and self-centered SOB's.

When you vote for more of the same,don't be surprised when you get more of the same.
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« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2021, 03:49:00 pm »
I don’t know if Trump is afraid of the Democrat Party, if it goes back to his statement back in 2004 when he said he identified more closely with the Democrat Party, or if it’s just his inexperience with Washington DC Swamp politics that made him very reluctant to take on the Democrat Party

Many of those who support him claim he’s a fighter. They confuse Twitter wars with taking on Washington DC corruption and Democratic Party policy

And yes, like many others I did not vote for him in 2016 but did in 2020 simply because I knew Biden would regulate the hell of the economy

Trump had his shot. Instead of just entrenching into Donald Trump for 2024, there’s plenty of time to find somebody else. I actually predict Trump will probably not run in 2024 because of age and I doubt he wants to go through all that again





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« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2021, 04:13:52 pm »
   And for those that think Trump has matured and will be different in his second term, I give you one word: Omarosa.
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« Reply #99 on: December 07, 2021, 05:10:25 pm »
@sneakypete

I could 'see' a situation where Pres. Trump might not run...but it would entail the 2nd and 3rd runner-ups to publicly declare full support for any and all Economic and Regulatory policies endorsed by him.

If Ted Cruz declared "President Trump already showed up the way it's done.  All we have to do is turn the key!" ... I'd vote for him in a New York Minute.

 @DCPatriot   

The problem for Republican politicians is Donald Trump makes it all look easy ---- but they overlook the pesky reality that Trump has decades of hands-on experience in global economics.  He could renegotiate trade agreements, negotiate directly with private sector CEOs on behalf of American workers, use tariffs with surgical precision and identify and eliminate the regulations having the greatest impact on short and long term economic growth ---- all because he knows what the hell he's doing.  This is the same reason Trump can pivot on a dime,  accept risks other can't even see and freeze the blood of our economic competitors.  The man is a walking, talking, breathing cost/benefits analysis.

This is a rather long-winded (sorry about that) way of saying God help us once Cruz opens the door and drops the key on the desk.





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