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I'm shocked to find that everything posted about the Salvation Army on this board is true.  As a matter of fact I received a letter from them today asking for money.  It's going straight in the trash.  I guess this year I'll be supporting more of our local non-profits.

Sooooo disappointing....

Yes it is. Another anchor of civilization destroyed.

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The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism

Nov 25, 2021

The holidays are a welcome reminder of the things we are grateful for—and for the power of service on behalf of those who are less fortunate. The Salvation Army mission statement clearly outlines the nature of our service:  to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and meet human needs in His name without discrimination. The beliefs that motivate our service are based solely on the Bible, and that will never change.

But although we remain committed to serving everyone in need—regardless of their beliefs, backgrounds, or lifestyle—some individuals and groups have recently attempted to mislabel our organization to serve their own agendas. They have claimed that we believe our donors should apologize for their skin color, that The Salvation Army believes America is an inherently racist society, and that we have abandoned our Christian faith for one ideology or another.

Those claims are simply false, and they distort the very goal of our work.

The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, and that we are called by God to work toward a world where all people are loved, accepted, and valued. Our positional statement on racism makes this clear. These beliefs and goals are critically important because we know that racism exists, and we are determined to do everything the Bible asks of us to overcome it.

The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period.

In this case, the guide “Let’s Talk About Racism,” was issued as a voluntary resource, but it has since become a focus of controversy. We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.

Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.


We at The Salvation Army remain undeterred in our mission because we are confident in the power of the gospel, and because millions of vulnerable Americans need our help. And we remain deeply grateful for the support of a generous public—people from all walks of life and from all parts of the country—who help us meet human need wherever it exists. Our supporters know that ours is a message of love, even for those who disagree or attack us. That is the model set by Christ, and we strive to follow it every day.

May God bless you, and Merry Christmas.

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The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism

Nov 25, 2021

The holidays are a welcome reminder of the things we are grateful for—and for the power of service on behalf of those who are less fortunate. The Salvation Army mission statement clearly outlines the nature of our service:  to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and meet human needs in His name without discrimination. The beliefs that motivate our service are based solely on the Bible, and that will never change.

But although we remain committed to serving everyone in need—regardless of their beliefs, backgrounds, or lifestyle—some individuals and groups have recently attempted to mislabel our organization to serve their own agendas. They have claimed that we believe our donors should apologize for their skin color, that The Salvation Army believes America is an inherently racist society, and that we have abandoned our Christian faith for one ideology or another.

Those claims are simply false, and they distort the very goal of our work.

The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, and that we are called by God to work toward a world where all people are loved, accepted, and valued. Our positional statement on racism makes this clear. These beliefs and goals are critically important because we know that racism exists, and we are determined to do everything the Bible asks of us to overcome it.

The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period.

In this case, the guide “Let’s Talk About Racism,” was issued as a voluntary resource, but it has since become a focus of controversy. We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.

Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.


We at The Salvation Army remain undeterred in our mission because we are confident in the power of the gospel, and because millions of vulnerable Americans need our help. And we remain deeply grateful for the support of a generous public—people from all walks of life and from all parts of the country—who help us meet human need wherever it exists. Our supporters know that ours is a message of love, even for those who disagree or attack us. That is the model set by Christ, and we strive to follow it every day.

May God bless you, and Merry Christmas.

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Right.......they just want the money!   

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The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism

Nov 25, 2021

The holidays are a welcome reminder of the things we are grateful for—and for the power of service on behalf of those who are less fortunate. The Salvation Army mission statement clearly outlines the nature of our service:  to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and meet human needs in His name without discrimination. The beliefs that motivate our service are based solely on the Bible, and that will never change.

But although we remain committed to serving everyone in need—regardless of their beliefs, backgrounds, or lifestyle—some individuals and groups have recently attempted to mislabel our organization to serve their own agendas. They have claimed that we believe our donors should apologize for their skin color, that The Salvation Army believes America is an inherently racist society, and that we have abandoned our Christian faith for one ideology or another.

Those claims are simply false, and they distort the very goal of our work.

The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, and that we are called by God to work toward a world where all people are loved, accepted, and valued. Our positional statement on racism makes this clear. These beliefs and goals are critically important because we know that racism exists, and we are determined to do everything the Bible asks of us to overcome it.

The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period.

In this case, the guide “Let’s Talk About Racism,” was issued as a voluntary resource, but it has since become a focus of controversy. We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.

Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.


We at The Salvation Army remain undeterred in our mission because we are confident in the power of the gospel, and because millions of vulnerable Americans need our help. And we remain deeply grateful for the support of a generous public—people from all walks of life and from all parts of the country—who help us meet human need wherever it exists. Our supporters know that ours is a message of love, even for those who disagree or attack us. That is the model set by Christ, and we strive to follow it every day.

May God bless you, and Merry Christmas.

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Their own "Social Justice" document says otherwise in no uncertain terms. They have not denied the document - only that the interpretation of the document is wrong.

I don't think so.

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Their own "Social Justice" document says otherwise in no uncertain terms. They have not denied the document - only that the interpretation of the document is wrong.

I don't think so.

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The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism

Nov 25, 2021

The holidays are a welcome reminder of the things we are grateful for—and for the power of service on behalf of those who are less fortunate. The Salvation Army mission statement clearly outlines the nature of our service:  to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and meet human needs in His name without discrimination. The beliefs that motivate our service are based solely on the Bible, and that will never change.

But although we remain committed to serving everyone in need—regardless of their beliefs, backgrounds, or lifestyle—some individuals and groups have recently attempted to mislabel our organization to serve their own agendas. They have claimed that we believe our donors should apologize for their skin color, that The Salvation Army believes America is an inherently racist society, and that we have abandoned our Christian faith for one ideology or another.

Those claims are simply false, and they distort the very goal of our work.

The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, and that we are called by God to work toward a world where all people are loved, accepted, and valued. Our positional statement on racism makes this clear. These beliefs and goals are critically important because we know that racism exists, and we are determined to do everything the Bible asks of us to overcome it.

The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period.

In this case, the guide “Let’s Talk About Racism,” was issued as a voluntary resource, but it has since become a focus of controversy. We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.

Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.


We at The Salvation Army remain undeterred in our mission because we are confident in the power of the gospel, and because millions of vulnerable Americans need our help. And we remain deeply grateful for the support of a generous public—people from all walks of life and from all parts of the country—who help us meet human need wherever it exists. Our supporters know that ours is a message of love, even for those who disagree or attack us. That is the model set by Christ, and we strive to follow it every day.

May God bless you, and Merry Christmas.

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"We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore..."  Gaslighting 101.  It's now my fault for correctly interpreting the "accurate information" as an anti-white screed?  Screw that...
My wife was dumbstruck when I mentioned this to her last night, had been waiting for more information to come out.  Well, this is that.
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"We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore..."  Gaslighting 101.  It's now my fault for correctly interpreting the "accurate information" as an anti-white screed?  Screw that...
My wife was dumbstruck when I mentioned this to her last night, had been waiting for more information to come out.  Well, this is that.

Same here.   Now we see their true "colors".   
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 "International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified."


Here's something they can clarify......my upthrust middle finger.  9999hair out0000




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Now we see their true "colors".
A good summary of what they are.

Divide people is their priority.
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This is the trouble with all the DO-GOODERS....NWO indoctrination. 

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I have nothing but contempt for the Salvation Army. I went to them in the mid-70's when I was broke,homeless,and too sick and injured to work,and just asked for a meal.

They insisted I had to pray for the meal,despite me telling them I am Agnostic. Bleep them and the pious asses they rode in on.
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SA has two jobs, basically: preach the gospel and help people in need. They've lost sight of their mission. Social justice is not part of it.
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SA has two jobs, basically: preach the gospel and help people in need. They've lost sight of their mission. Social justice is not part of it.
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SA has two jobs, basically: preach the gospel and help people in need. They've lost sight of their mission. Social justice is not part of it.

Sad to learn of their sinking into the abyss.
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Sad to learn of their sinking into the abyss.

I was hoping this thing was a hoax, but from I read, I see no denial, and a tepid and likely brief retraction after they were finding out it was hitting the fan. 

Quoting Trump....  Everything woke turns to shit.  And that red bucket might as well be a shit can, all I care.
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Here is the pamphlet, in case anyone is interested:  Let's Talk About Racism

Sixty-seven pages of critical race theory.  The word 'white' appears 119 times.
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From the phamphlet:

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Race is not biological. It is a social construct.
There is no gene or cluster of genes common
to all Blacks or all Whites. Were race ‘real’ in the
genetic sense, racial classifications for individuals
would remain constant across boundaries. Yet,
a person who could be categorized as Black in
the USA might be considered White in Brazil
or colored in South Africa.


Well, that lost me right there.
There are groups of physical characteristics which are common to specific races, and those characteristics are expressions of genetic makeup.
So, wrong, no matter how those characteristics are defined in individual cultures.
This is just more of that Woke-assed nonsense being slathered about.

Either the SA cleans house, gets back to being what it was, or it will go the way of the Red Cross on my donation list (off it, permanently). I'll give them a couple of years o think about it.
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Sounds like the Salvation Army is taking a dump where it lives.

So long brother.
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No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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"We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore..."  Gaslighting 101.  It's now my fault for correctly interpreting the "accurate information" as an anti-white screed?  Screw that...
My wife was dumbstruck when I mentioned this to her last night, had been waiting for more information to come out.  Well, this is that.

Anyone that has an 'International Social Justice Commission' does not deserve to be believed.

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"We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore..."  Gaslighting 101.  It's now my fault for correctly interpreting the "accurate information" as an anti-white screed?  Screw that...
My wife was dumbstruck when I mentioned this to her last night, had been waiting for more information to come out.  Well, this is that.

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Those should be made dollar-bill-sized, so they can be printed out and dumped into the red bucket.

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I've printed and folded them so I might easily drop them in the kettle. Unfortunately, there's no kettle yet at my Kroger.
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