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We've seen this scenario playing out abroad and in some parts of the United States. But the statistics in Los Angeles are particularly compelling in showing this is a "pandemic of the vaccinated."
by JD Rucker  November 24, 2021

How do you confuse a government health official? Show them statistics that compare percentages of vaccinations in areas with surges in Covid-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They will perform Olympic-level intellectual gymnastics in order to avoid the most obvious conclusion: High vaccination levels equate to higher Covid-19 surges.

We’ve seen this happening in other countries that achieve extreme vaccination levels. Most recently, Ireland defied the accepted vaccine narrative by having its worst spike happening despite achieving 93% vaccination levels for adults in the nation. And as has become a broken record of excuses, the government is projecting the unpoetic narrative that it’s those dastardly handful of filthy unvaxxed who are to blame for the injections’ obvious lack of efficacy.

But the “baffling” phenomenon is manifesting in more places around the United States as different areas achieve vaccination levels that exceed the national average. Case-in-point: Los Angeles. It’s a perfect microcosm for analysis because the areas that have the highest vaccination rates also have the highest Covid-19 rates. One would think there should be nothing baffling about it, but public health officials are still droning on about every possible reason for the narrative-breaking statistics.

Seven of the ten most vaccinated areas in Los Angeles make up the top of the list for most infected, most hospitalized, and most deadly. This tells any thinking person beyond a shadow of a doubt that research must be done to either prove the obvious or discover something we all missed. Instead of research, we’re getting canned responses and a plethora of excuses that point away from the most common sense answer on the table.

https://basedunderground.com/2021/11/24/los-angeles-covid-surge-defies-vaccine-narrative-the-most-vaxxed-areas-are-now-most-heavily-infected/

Ok, who wants to be vaccinated, or should I say, voluntarily get sick with the chance of dying?
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Most likely it's because those who get vaccinated tend, on average, to engage in more risky behavior than those who have not been vaccinated, with the result that they are more likely to be exposed to the virus and get an infection.  What are the relative rates of hospitalization/serious illness/death?  Those are the only metrics that matter.  Mere infection, without serious/fatal symptoms, is to be encouraged, not discouraged.

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Most likely it's because those who get vaccinated tend, on average, to engage in more risky behavior than those who have not been vaccinated, with the result that they are more likely to be exposed to the virus and get an infection.  What are the relative rates of hospitalization/serious illness/death?  Those are the only metrics that matter.  Mere infection, without serious/fatal symptoms, is to be encouraged, not discouraged.
That's one scenario, saying those from LA tend to be riskier than the rest of the US.  Same goes for those risk takers in Israel I guess

How about looking at the other demographic data set, say in Sweden, who refrain from lockdown nor highly vaccinate the population, yet or less likely to get Covid?


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That's one scenario, saying those from LA tend to be riskier than the rest of the US.  Same goes for those risk takers in Israel I guess

How about looking at the other demographic data set, say in Sweden, who refrain from lockdown nor highly vaccinate the population, yet or less likely to get Covid?




No, it's that generically, those who have been vaccinated engage in riskier behaviour - they are less likely to wear masks, even in those limited situations where a mask would help, they are less likely to socially distance, including in confined spaces where airflow is poor, they are less likely to avoid touching surfaces in public that are likely to be contaminated, they are less likely to wash their hands frequently, and they are more likely to go back to pre-covid social behavior, like hooking up with just-met strangers.

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No, it's that generically, those who have been vaccinated engage in riskier behaviour - they are less likely to wear masks, even in those limited situations where a mask would help, they are less likely to socially distance, including in confined spaces where airflow is poor, they are less likely to avoid touching surfaces in public that are likely to be contaminated, they are less likely to wash their hands frequently, and they are more likely to go back to pre-covid social behavior, like hooking up with just-met strangers.
Well I think that's quite the assumption. There are people all across America fed up with the ridiculous covid restrictions like social distancing of six feet which has no scientific basis it was just pulled out of someone's rectum instead of cranium. Confined spaces where airflow is poor, like in their homes? The people that don't wash their hands frequently(just how often is frequently) probably never have, I'm more concerned that don't after using the restroom. Why am I wearing a mask if I'm vaccinated? they are almost completely useless especially given that even if they were no one uses them properly.

All off this is simply social engineering, I have lived through and survived many pandemics in America just like the 99.9% that have and we never ever destroyed the nation doing it before. We didn't mask up, hide away and vilify others doing it either. Now it's those damn people in L.A. before if I recall it was Florida, Texas and others. Maybe just maybe it has more to do with the disease ridden, not just covid, that the socialists are importing and distributing across America.

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No, it's that generically, those who have been vaccinated engage in riskier behaviour - they are less likely to wear masks, even in those limited situations where a mask would help, they are less likely to socially distance, including in confined spaces where airflow is poor, they are less likely to avoid touching surfaces in public that are likely to be contaminated, they are less likely to wash their hands frequently, and they are more likely to go back to pre-covid social behavior, like hooking up with just-met strangers.
You are playing their game when you assume the vaccine does not cause the illness.

I choose not to play.
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https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/covid_deaths_per_million/

Israel - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 872
Sweden - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 1,479
USA - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 2,243
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You are playing their game when you assume the vaccine does not cause the illness.

I choose not to play.

You're drawing unwarranted conclusions from the evidence.  That's a game I choose not to play.  I prefer to start with the evidence at hand and draw reasonable conclusions therefrom.  There is no warrant or call for going off on speculative snipe hunts unless all other reasonable conclusions have been fully disproven first.

Occam's Razor says the moral hazard argument is the most likely explanation.

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https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/covid_deaths_per_million/

Israel - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 872
Sweden - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 1,479
USA - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 2,243


Source of the data?  Otherwise, GIGO.

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My source, www.theglobaleconomy.com, uses data from OurWorldInData.

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/covid_deaths_per_million/

Israel - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 872
(measure: new Covid deaths per million people, source: OurWorldInData)

Sweden - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 1,479
(measure: total Covid deaths, source: Our World in Data)

USA - New Covid Deaths per Million for October 2021 = 2,243
(measure: new Covid deaths per million people, source: OurWorldInData)

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So the CDC is the source of the data?  Then large grains of salt are in order:



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Texas Covid-19 Deaths per 100,000:



Source - Texas State Department of Health Services:  https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx

If we can't trust Texas Governor Gregg Abbott's health department for Covid-19 death data, whom can we trust?



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So the CDC is the source of the data?  Then large grains of salt are in order:


Especially with the definition of "fully vaccinated" being used... Nobody even knows what that means... It's a moving target... And when does "fully vaccinated" begin... Weeks after getting jabbed on some variable number of jabs...
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You're drawing unwarranted conclusions from the evidence.  That's a game I choose not to play.  I prefer to start with the evidence at hand and draw reasonable conclusions therefrom.  There is no warrant or call for going off on speculative snipe hunts unless all other reasonable conclusions have been fully disproven first.

Occam's Razor says the moral hazard argument is the most likely explanation.
Nope, you are the one drawing unwarranted conclusions as you said No, meaning you reject other alternatives.   You are indeed playing the game, whether you believe so or not.

As far as 'Evidence', we all know that virtually all the numbers and causes of illness and death are fabricated to support particular ideologies.

To be injected with an unproven substance into an otherwise healthy body certainly represents the most likely scenario of all.
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You are playing their game when you assume the vaccine does not cause the illness.

I choose not to play.
Then you choose to ignore reality. In which case, you belong back on the site you sailed away from, not here. #micdrop
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Well I think that's quite the assumption. There are people all across America fed up with the ridiculous covid restrictions like social distancing of six feet which has no scientific basis it was just pulled out of someone's rectum instead of cranium. Confined spaces where airflow is poor, like in their homes? The people that don't wash their hands frequently(just how often is frequently) probably never have, I'm more concerned that don't after using the restroom. Why am I wearing a mask if I'm vaccinated? they are almost completely useless especially given that even if they were no one uses them properly.

All off this is simply social engineering, I have lived through and survived many pandemics in America just like the 99.9% that have and we never ever destroyed the nation doing it before. We didn't mask up, hide away and vilify others doing it either. Now it's those damn people in L.A. before if I recall it was Florida, Texas and others. Maybe just maybe it has more to do with the disease ridden, not just covid, that the socialists are importing and distributing across America.


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You are playing their game when you assume the vaccine does not cause the illness.

I choose not to play.


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Then you choose to ignore reality. In which case, you belong back on the site you sailed away from, not here. #micdrop

Am currently undergoing tests...so I find myself before my primary doctor.  He's an Internist, and he is very thorough (as Kaiser allows him)

He came highly recommended by several KP lab techs on the main floor.

Checking my status, he sees that I have the 2 Moderna shots, but haven't gotten the "Booster"...yet.  (I'm skeptical has hell right now!!!)

He recommends it.  In fact, he said that even though 'this' location didn't offer the Moderna, I could get it at the Rockville, Maryland location.

Then he says, "But it's not really necessary.  You can "Mix-n-Match" and get the Johnson or the Pfizer as the booster"

He could see I was giving him the "Whatchoo talkin' bout Willis" look...so he then says, "The CDC recommends..."

Gave him the Stop sign.  Then laughed.

No thanks.

Not with the vast majority of people dying right now fully vaccinated.  Not with young people...athletes, suddenly dropping dead.

This is global government sanctioned genocide.  F*** them. 

Wash your hands!!
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Covid Surge Defies ‘Vaccine’ Narrative


That would be because the Narrative has been complete BS since Day One.
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Most likely it's because those who get vaccinated tend, on average, to engage in more risky behavior than those who have not been vaccinated

Please define "risky behavior".
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Then you choose to ignore reality. In which case, you belong back on the site you sailed away from, not here. #micdrop
Go ahead and play and have fun.
Hope the contaminants infused into the body are not too much to bear.
Me and a lot of others will watch as spectators.

And that is indeed reality, something you seem unfamiliar with.
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I don't see 'partially vaccinated' anywhere on that chart.  Are 'partially vaccinated' counted as 'unvaccinated'?
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This is global government sanctioned genocide.  F*** them. 

Wash your hands!!

I agree with you @DCPatriot   Wash your hands. Use hand sanitizer while you are out and don't touch your face until you have a chance to wash your hands. Take vitamins C, D, and zinc or a good multi-vitamin. Prebiotics (bananas, asparagus) and Probiotics (Renew Life is a good brand). Build up your immune system as much as possible.  I've known people who swear by Emergen-C with extra zinc or Airborne Immunity.

Personally, I avoid crowds as much as possible this time of year, it's flu season and tourist season here. 

P.S.  LET'S GO BRANDON!!!!
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I posted this in the "Florida" thread ... but compared to LA:

Florida reports lowest daily coronavirus cases per capita in nation

Florida is reporting the lowest amount of coronavirus cases per capita in the nation after Gov. Ron DeSantis was widely criticized by media outlets for his handling of the virus.

The Sunshine State reported a daily average of 1,393 coronavirus cases as of Friday, six per 100,000, which was a two percent decrease over the last two weeks.

DeSantis has been slammed by critics in the media since the start of the pandemic over his opposition to government-imposed mask and vaccine mandates. In 2020, DeSantis was accused by a Democratic politician of going on a "killing spree" for opposing mask mandates and a Vanity Fair headline from September of this year referred to the governor as an "angel of death."

At the same time Florida reported the lowest amount of new cases in the country per capita, coronavirus cases are surging in many states where strict lockdown orders were issued by Democratic governors. ..................

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-reports-lowest-daily-coronavirus-cases-per-capita-in-nation
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