Author Topic: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery  (Read 254 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 80,243
After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
The likeness of the third president was removed from New York City Council chambers Monday.
The Hill, Nov 23, 2021

A statue of Thomas Jefferson that has stood in New York City Hall for nearly 200 years was removed Monday due to the former president’s role as a slave owner. 

The New York Post reports the 7-foot, 884-pound statue of the founding father was taken down from its pedestal inside the City Council chambers Monday and packed into a wooden crate. The statue will go on a long-term loan to the New York Historical Society.

The move comes after the city’s Public Design Commission, made up of members appointed by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D), voted in favor of relocating the monument to the museum and library. Some members of the commission had disagreed over those plans because the Historical Society charges an entrance fee, which would make the publicly owned statue more difficult to view.

Efforts to remove the Jefferson statue, which is a plaster version of a bronze statue located in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda, have been ongoing for decades, but gained traction last year following the police murder of George Floyd that sparked a racial reckoning in the U.S.

The removal was prompted by some city councilmembers who objected to the third president’s legacy as a slave owner, including members of the council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus.


https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/582786-after-almost-two-centuries-thomas-jeffersons-statue-removed-over

Offline Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 80,243
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2021, 04:00:53 pm »

Online libertybele

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58,130
  • Gender: Female
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2021, 04:45:21 pm »
Shameful and pitiful.  The marxists/leftists are erasing our history statute by statue, memorial by memorial and history book by history book. 

So sad! I've said this before, at this point I think it is prudent to keep on hand a copy of our founding documents; Declaration of Independence, Mayflower Compact, the U.S. Constitution, Gettysburg Address, etc., that way at least our children, grandchildren and future generations will have a hard copy that they can reference. Teach them well.        :patriot:           
« Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 04:56:01 pm by libertybele »
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Offline andy58-in-nh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,772
  • Gender: Male
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2021, 04:50:54 pm »
Keep the statues. Remove the Marxists. 
"The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Online libertybele

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58,130
  • Gender: Female
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2021, 04:58:20 pm »
Keep the statues. Remove the Marxists.

 :amen:
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Offline Kamaji

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58,153
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2021, 05:00:07 pm »
Keep an eye - a careful eye - on the history books, particularly the grade-school textbooks, and don't worry so much about statues.

Getting rid of a statue doesn't get rid of the underlying history, it just gets rid of an artifact.  Rewriting the textbooks will get rid of the underlying history.

Whether a particular statue should continue to be displayed in public, on public property, should be a matter of concern to the local community, who should decide whether to keep the statue or not; the contents of the history books, however, should never be open to current community prejudices and biases.

Offline HoustonSam

  • "That'll be the day......"
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,982
  • Gender: Male
  • old times there are not forgotten
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2021, 05:01:22 pm »


Former POTUS DJT called this one right on the nose.

Not only do the woke progressive blues believe they are morally superior to the rest of us, they also believe they are morally superior to all those who came before us.
James 1:20

Offline HoustonSam

  • "That'll be the day......"
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,982
  • Gender: Male
  • old times there are not forgotten
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2021, 05:03:23 pm »
Keep an eye - a careful eye - on the history books, particularly the grade-school textbooks, and don't worry so much about statues.

Getting rid of a statue doesn't get rid of the underlying history, it just gets rid of an artifact.  Rewriting the textbooks will get rid of the underlying history.

Whether a particular statue should continue to be displayed in public, on public property, should be a matter of concern to the local community, who should decide whether to keep the statue or not; the contents of the history books, however, should never be open to current community prejudices and biases.

Excellent call out @Kamaji .
James 1:20

Online libertybele

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58,130
  • Gender: Female
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 05:38:27 pm »
Keep an eye - a careful eye - on the history books, particularly the grade-school textbooks, and don't worry so much about statues.

Getting rid of a statue doesn't get rid of the underlying history, it just gets rid of an artifact.  Rewriting the textbooks will get rid of the underlying history.

Whether a particular statue should continue to be displayed in public, on public property, should be a matter of concern to the local community, who should decide whether to keep the statue or not; the contents of the history books, however, should never be open to current community prejudices and biases.

The history books continue to be rewritten and I'm sure the push to do so is even more rampant.  I have a booklet published in 2002 of all the founding documents; but it only has excerpts of Washington's Farewell Address and only excerpts of "The Federalists, No. 10"...

I checked, Amazon carries a similar booklet, but not the same.

Too bad I didn't hold onto our kids' history books when they were going to school.  They went to  Christian schools and we were told then, that the history books were being re-written by certain publishers.  It's probably the norm now, especially those for the public schools and I would assume that the Christian schools are having a difficult time getting text books that haven't been drastically changed.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Offline DefiantMassRINO

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,451
  • Gender: Male
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2021, 05:48:28 pm »
Are we also erasing George Washington's Presidential Inauguaration in New York City on April 30, 1789, from the history books?

What about that sexist, mysogynist, paternal, imperialist, oppressive Statue of Liberty?

When it comes to erasing history, America needs to be more like pharaonic Egypt and Communist China ... strike Bill Clinton's name and image from all temples and monuments, and finally dry clean Monica's blue dress.
Self-Anointed Deplorable Expert Chowderhead Pundit
I reserve my God-given rights to be wrong and to be stupid at all times.

"If at first you don’t succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried." - Steven Wright

Comrades, I swear on Trump's soul that I am not working from a CIA troll farm in Kiev.

Offline IsailedawayfromFR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18,752
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2021, 06:38:39 pm »
One of the greatest of the greats. And the Dems treat him as garbage.

History will be terrible toward these ingrates.
No punishment, in my opinion, is too great, for the man who can build his greatness upon his country's ruin~  George Washington

Offline Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 80,243
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2021, 03:32:28 am »
ICYMI....

Offline HoustonSam

  • "That'll be the day......"
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,982
  • Gender: Male
  • old times there are not forgotten
Re: After almost two centuries, Thomas Jefferson's statue removed over slavery
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2021, 03:38:11 am »
One of the greatest of the greats. And the Dems treat him as garbage.

History will be terrible toward these ingrates.

D parties in many locations have an annual "Jefferson Jackson Day Dinner", or at least they used to.  Now both of the the iconic figures they look upon as founders of their party have been declared anathema by the blue woke progressives.

Yet somehow it's the R party that's "racist."
James 1:20