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Mayo Clinic-trained doctor says covid “vaccines” are locking in suppressed immunity, making people more prone to HIV, HPV, shingles, herpes

11/19/2021 / By Ethan Huff

Lately we have warned you about the trend of acute injuries, including sudden death, resulting from Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccination.” But another thing to keep in mind is that in most of the “fully vaccinated,” a much more subtle slow kill process is taking place.

The effects of this slow kill process may not be immediately apparent, but over time they become more apparent as the injections wear away at the immune system, leaving it more prone to infection with other viruses.

Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist who runs the largest independent diagnostics lab in Idaho, says that he is observing serious declines in the health of people who took the jabs.

https://www.science.news/2021-11-19-covid-vaccines-suppressed-immunity-hiv-hpv-herpes.html

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No surprise to me that the vaccines compromise one's natural immunity.

I went to the dentist yesterday. I've been going to the same dentist for over 20 years and the dentist is a graduate of U.of M. I thought that he would lean liberal.  As I approached the entry door there was a sign that said "Please wear a mask if you have not been vaccinated".  Ok, I thought, so, he's screening people.  Much to my surprise all the staff were wearing masks, all those in the waiting room were wearing masks, so none of those people were vaccinated! 

Let's Go Brandon!!!!  Let's Go Fauci!!!

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No surprise to me that the vaccines compromise one's natural immunity.

I went to the dentist yesterday. I've been going to the same dentist for over 20 years and the dentist is a graduate of U.of M. I thought that he would lean liberal.  As I approached the entry door there was a sign that said "Please wear a mask if you have not been vaccinated".  Ok, I thought, so, he's screening people.  Much to my surprise all the staff were wearing masks, all those in the waiting room were wearing masks, so none of those people were vaccinated! 

Let's Go Brandon!!!!  Let's Go Fauci!!!

One is supposed to wear a mask, EVEN if vaccinated.  That is why this is insane.  vaccinated,  shed the virus. 

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Mayo Clinic-trained doctor says covid “vaccines” are locking in suppressed immunity, making people more prone to HIV, HPV, shingles, herpes

11/19/2021 / By Ethan Huff

Lately we have warned you about the trend of acute injuries, including sudden death, resulting from Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccination.” But another thing to keep in mind is that in most of the “fully vaccinated,” a much more subtle slow kill process is taking place.

The effects of this slow kill process may not be immediately apparent, but over time they become more apparent as the injections wear away at the immune system, leaving it more prone to infection with other viruses.

Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist who runs the largest independent diagnostics lab in Idaho, says that he is observing serious declines in the health of people who took the jabs.

https://www.science.news/2021-11-19-covid-vaccines-suppressed-immunity-hiv-hpv-herpes.html

I read that this created virus, From Wuhan, has some HIV and ebola spliced into it.  That ivermectin and hydracloraquine  sp? actually can kill some of these viruses..  No wonder government does not want anyone to use these products. POPULATION CONTROL. 

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“It’s innocuous, but what it tells me is the immune status of these individuals who have gotten the shot. We’re literally weakening the immune system of these individuals.”

Fauci Flu shots are making people’s bodies more prone to cancer

Another thing Dr. Cole is observing in his laboratory is a massive.........

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Well, you would think by now, we would have a treatment for the Chinese bioweapon. It's been 2 years now and there is no kill shot for the virus. There is no anti-viral. That is suspicious.
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All this for a virus thats 1.5% lethal, and for which there is a range of cheap therapeutics available.

If it turns out these vaccines are hurting more than they're helping there're gonna be one helluvalotta pissed off people.

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All this for a virus thats 1.5% lethal, and for which there is a range of cheap therapeutics available.

If it turns out these vaccines are hurting more than they're helping there're gonna be one helluvalotta pissed off people.

I agree.  99.97%  recovery says CDC and there are A RANGE of cheap therapeutics available...if you get covid, and WHY GLOBALISTS don't want anyone to take them.  Joe Rogan and Gupta video. *seems removed*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdGXYRVyZ-Q


This could be it? 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkTXEexNB2E
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Mayo Clinic-trained doctor says covid “vaccines” are locking in suppressed immunity, making people more prone to HIV, HPV, shingles, herpes

Ya think?  What a surprise!  Who would have ever thought that injecting a human with something genetically engineered to suppress the human immune response would end up suppressing the human immune response?
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Ya think?  What a surprise!  Who would have ever thought that injecting a human with something genetically engineered to suppress the human immune response would end up suppressing the human immune response?

Unfortunately, there are many that don't understand or realize that these vaccines do suppress the immune system. Panic and fear have driven many to get the vaccine; others have been forced into it in order to keep their jobs or mandated for other reasons.  Shameful all the way around.

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Stop posting the rantings of crackpots and calling it fact. I'm so sick of this.

???? Dr. Ryan Cole is a board-certified pathologist who runs the largest independent diagnostics lab in Idaho. I'd hardly call him a crackpot.
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Stop posting the rantings of crackpots and calling it fact. I'm so sick of this.

See:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7957288/

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Well, you would think by now, we would have a treatment for the Chinese bioweapon. It's been 2 years now and there is no kill shot for the virus. There is no anti-viral. That is suspicious.
What is even more suspicious is that people taking Hydroxychloroquine for Rheumatoid Arthritis are having trouble getting the prescribed drug from pharmacies.

The components of the remedies and early onset treatments are being eliminated from pharmacological consideration.

I'm  not sure who (maybe the WHO), but the FDA and CDC are neck deep in suppressing information and what you need to fight the disease, which would leave for many only the alternative of getting the jabs.

NEVER in human history has so much bias been displayed about cheap and effective treatments nor has so much pressure had to be put on a population to try and get them to take a "vaccine". Especially when the efficacy of the vaccine is increasingly called into question.
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NEVER in human history has so much bias been displayed about cheap and effective treatments nor has so much pressure had to be put on a population to try and get them to take a "vaccine". Especially when the efficacy of the vaccine is increasingly called into question.

Never in US history have pharmacists been able to overrule medical doctors by refusing to fill prescriptions written by those doctors.
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What is even more suspicious is that people taking Hydroxychloroquine for Rheumatoid Arthritis are having trouble getting the prescribed drug from pharmacies.

The components of the remedies and early onset treatments are being eliminated from pharmacological consideration.

I'm  not sure who (maybe the WHO), but the FDA and CDC are neck deep in suppressing information and what you need to fight the disease, which would leave for many only the alternative of getting the jabs.

NEVER in human history has so much bias been displayed about cheap and effective treatments nor has so much pressure had to be put on a population to try and get them to take a "vaccine". Especially when the efficacy of the vaccine is increasingly called into question.

This is reason to NOT trust our government period. When information is suppressed and the data isn't supporting what the FDA, CDC and Dr.  Evil are telling us,  yet they continue to push these vaccines, it's time for people to get a grip and truly take a step back and reassess the true motive behind these vaccines. When the pandemic hit, they put the fear of God into many, that if they didn't do exactly as ordered they would die. They shutdown our country and we find out it was only a means to control.  I feel sorry for those who refuse to open their eyes and see what's going on.  Perhaps it makes them feel better. 

How can one ignore the data coming out of the UK that those vaccinated are dying at double the rate of the unvaccinated? How can one ignore that data that over 2600 fetus deaths have occurred in pregnant women who received the vaccine??

There are now several reports (this being one of them) that state that the vaccines suppress the immune system. 

I for one can't ignore the data that continues to prove that the CDC and FDA are lying!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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Ya think?  What a surprise!  Who would have ever thought that injecting a human with something genetically engineered to suppress the human immune response would end up suppressing the human immune response?


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Stop posting the rantings of crackpots and calling it fact. I'm so sick of this.

Some are sick of you.   :silly:

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Well, you would think by now, we would have a treatment for the Chinese bioweapon. It's been 2 years now and there is no kill shot for the virus. There is no anti-viral. That is suspicious.

This is a new, cold virus.  CORONAVIRUS.  One can stop virus replication, but rare for any virus to be 'killed'.  There is anti-viral treatment.  Think of AIDS, HERPES, CANCER.  ALL VIRUS.  Then natural foods can be used, to get your immune system up, against virus.  Elderberry, garlic, onion, etc.  Dr. Eric Berg, has 13 items. 

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"...Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist ..."

He's not an immunologist.  He's butcher with a medical degree.
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"...Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist ..."

He's not an immunologist.  He's butcher with a medical degree.

Definitely not a butcher. Pathologists are doctors who are specifically trained to study diseases.  Fauci indeed is an immunologist, but has lied time and time again about this virus. He headed  the research in Wahuan and later funded the research --- he knew about COVID before he helped to inflict it on us. 

I'll take the opinion of someone you call a butcher over Dr. Evil the mass murderer. 


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I'll take the opinion of someone you call a butcher over Dr. Evil the mass murderer.

One of the two practices medicine.  The other does research.

Guess which of those two Josef Mengele did.
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One of the two practices medicine.  The other does research.

Guess which of those two Josef Mengele did.
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Never in US history have pharmacists been able to overrule medical doctors by refusing to fill prescriptions written by those doctors.


Actually, I think many pharmacists overruled the morning after pill. Different reasons, of course. So not unprecedented.

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Ah, we've reached the Godwin's Law portion of the argument.

People who bring up Godwin's law are just like Hitler.
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Stop posting the rantings of crackpots and calling it fact. I'm so sick of this.



@jmyrlefuller I don't know that these people are crackpots. But I don't think any of these "experts" really know the full ramifications disease  or the vaccines.

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@jmyrlefuller I don't know that these people are crackpots. But I don't think any of these "experts" really know the full ramifications disease  or the vaccines.

Plain and simple; the data doesn't lie.  Data that has been reported not only by some in the U.S. but also  by those in the UK and Israel. People are dying from the vaccine and even people who are double vaccinated.  IF indeed the vaccine worked, then why are people dying. Interestingly, Ivermectin has been used as treatment over in Africa and their death rate is way down, so that tells me that simple solutions have worked better than these supposedly tested vaccines.

I believe that Fauci who spearheaded the research for awhile over in Wuhaun knows exactly what the ramifications of COVID are and the FDA, CDC are aware of the ramifications of the vaccines.

Population control and control of the population. That IMO is the whole purpose of the virus being inflicted upon us. Dr. Evil and the Bidens in conjuntion ARE responsible.  I have absolutely no doubt.  I know some will disagree with me and that is fine.


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Humping a few nurses is about as close as I ever came to being a doctor,but if my choice were between some goobermint weasel and a Mayo Clinic MD,I'm siding with the Mayo Clinic doc.

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Plain and simple; the data doesn't lie.  Data that has been reported not only by some in the U.S. but also  by those in the UK and Israel. People are dying from the vaccine and even people who are double vaccinated.  IF indeed the vaccine worked, then why are people dying. Interestingly, Ivermectin has been used as treatment over in Africa and their death rate is way down, so that tells me that simple solutions have worked better than these supposedly tested vaccines.

I believe that Fauci who spearheaded the research for awhile over in Wuhaun knows exactly what the ramifications of COVID are and the FDA, CDC are aware of the ramifications of the vaccines.

Population control and control of the population. That IMO is the whole purpose of the virus being inflicted upon us. Dr. Evil and the Bidens in conjuntion ARE responsible.  I have absolutely no doubt.  I know some will disagree with me and that is fine.
I am not so much involved in trying to ascribe a motive, though doubtless there is one.

The bottom line is that the vaccines, increasingly, are not effective. People who are vaccinated can get the virus, and while their symptoms may be less severe, that only enables them to move about shedding the virus.  The shots are NOT stopping the virus, they help spread it.

In some age groups, the disease causes very few deaths, yet the vaccine has been known to cause severe life changing adverse effects in these same age groups. Instead of weighing the risk vs benefit equation, the information is being suppressed. In my state, there have been zero COVID fatalities in the 0-14 age group, so ANY risk from the vaccine is NOT justifiable for that age group. Yet, Fauci and others are going whole hog to push for the jabs for kids.

That begs the question: "Why?"

I read a slew of studies early on which said Hydroxychloroquine was "ineffective" (when it was used by itself on late stage patients), and not one of those studies gave their patients, even in  the later stages of the disease, the critical zinc supplementation which was necessary for efficacy in stopping viral reproduction, and none of those studies administered the HCQ/Azithromycin/Zinc regimen in the early stages (first symptoms) of the disease, nor did they administer the complete regimen.

Those "studies" were tailored to produce results that could be touted as "proof' that HCQ was not a viable treatment. One even went so far as to administer lethal doses of Chloroquine to patients (in Brazil) and was stopped early, but then touted in the media as 'proof' that Hydroxychloroquine (a DIFFERENT drug) was dangerous.

Again, I question why, but the bottom line is that these are some of the shittiest excuses for "science" I have seen since the Hockey Stick graph used to predict sure incineration of the planet some years ago (didn't happen).  Two journals, the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine, even retracted articles over this, something virtually unheard of for two of the more prestigious medical journals on Earth.

The assault on Ivermectin reeks of the same M.O. If this is what the "experts" are using to bolster their stance on Ivermectin, it too, reeks. And again, I am forced to ask Why? Why reduce the credibility of MDs everywhere, why taint a previously respected profession with this sort of rubbish?

If the data support the assertions of the CDC and Dr. Fauci, then why not just present the data--or is it already so tainted by questionable attributions of deaths that it is useless?

That there are profit motives present in this goes almost without saying, from the $13,000 and $37,000 for COVID admissions and COVID ICU admissions for local hospitals which might be running in the red (especially urban hospitals where gunshot  and other victims of violence are limited in their ability to pay). Someone is making bank off of selling the jabs and other alleged treatments which proved less than effective, but all of which were more expensive than the HCQ/Zithromax/Zinc and Ivermectin/Doxycycline/Zinc regimens for early stage COVID (symptom onset). Instead of even trying (or letting doctors try) those regimens and collecting data, the FDA/CDC came out against using the drugs involved, and sent patients home until they either got well on their own or were sick enough to admit.

This makes no sense from either a Medical or Scientific standpoint.

I do believe the panic (mass hysteria) incited by the press (MSM) has been used to get people to agree to damaging the economy, disrupting their lives, keeping children out of school (The lowest risk group), and to change electoral practices for the purpose of facilitating fraud.  But that election is over.

There is no political reason to continue to perpetrate this nonsense on Americans or the World, unless the aim is the destruction of our economy and the collapse of the Republic.  Or maybe, now that they have this tiger by the tail, they just don't know how to let go.
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if my choice were between some goobermint weasel and a Mayo Clinic MD,I'm siding with the Mayo Clinic doc.

Agreed.  Likewise, if my choice is between a doctor doing research and a doctor treating patients, I'l side with the doctor who treats patients.
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I am not so much involved in trying to ascribe a motive, though doubtless there is one.

The bottom line is that the vaccines, increasingly, are not effective. People who are vaccinated can get the virus, and while their symptoms may be less severe, that only enables them to move about shedding the virus.  The shots are NOT stopping the virus, they help spread it.

In some age groups, the disease causes very few deaths, yet the vaccine has been known to cause severe life changing adverse effects in these same age groups. Instead of weighing the risk vs benefit equation, the information is being suppressed. In my state, there have been zero COVID fatalities in the 0-14 age group, so ANY risk from the vaccine is NOT justifiable for that age group. Yet, Fauci and others are going whole hog to push for the jabs for kids.

That begs the question: "Why?"

I read a slew of studies early on which said Hydroxychloroquine was "ineffective" (when it was used by itself on late stage patients), and not one of those studies gave their patients, even in  the later stages of the disease, the critical zinc supplementation which was necessary for efficacy in stopping viral reproduction, and none of those studies administered the HCQ/Azithromycin/Zinc regimen in the early stages (first symptoms) of the disease, nor did they administer the complete regimen.

Those "studies" were tailored to produce results that could be touted as "proof' that HCQ was not a viable treatment. One even went so far as to administer lethal doses of Chloroquine to patients (in Brazil) and was stopped early, but then touted in the media as 'proof' that Hydroxychloroquine (a DIFFERENT drug) was dangerous.

Again, I question why, but the bottom line is that these are some of the shittiest excuses for "science" I have seen since the Hockey Stick graph used to predict sure incineration of the planet some years ago (didn't happen).  Two journals, the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine, even retracted articles over this, something virtually unheard of for two of the more prestigious medical journals on Earth.

The assault on Ivermectin reeks of the same M.O. If this is what the "experts" are using to bolster their stance on Ivermectin, it too, reeks. And again, I am forced to ask Why? Why reduce the credibility of MDs everywhere, why taint a previously respected profession with this sort of rubbish?

If the data support the assertions of the CDC and Dr. Fauci, then why not just present the data--or is it already so tainted by questionable attributions of deaths that it is useless?

That there are profit motives present in this goes almost without saying, from the $13,000 and $37,000 for COVID admissions and COVID ICU admissions for local hospitals which might be running in the red (especially urban hospitals where gunshot  and other victims of violence are limited in their ability to pay). Someone is making bank off of selling the jabs and other alleged treatments which proved less than effective, but all of which were more expensive than the HCQ/Zithromax/Zinc and Ivermectin/Doxycycline/Zinc regimens for early stage COVID (symptom onset). Instead of even trying (or letting doctors try) those regimens and collecting data, the FDA/CDC came out against using the drugs involved, and sent patients home until they either got well on their own or were sick enough to admit.

This makes no sense from either a Medical or Scientific standpoint.

I do believe the panic (mass hysteria) incited by the press (MSM) has been used to get people to agree to damaging the economy, disrupting their lives, keeping children out of school (The lowest risk group), and to change electoral practices for the purpose of facilitating fraud.  But that election is over.

There is no political reason to continue to perpetrate this nonsense on Americans or the World, unless the aim is the destruction of our economy and the collapse of the Republic.  Or maybe, now that they have this tiger by the tail, they just don't know how to let go.

Good post.

In short, I absolutely believe that the aim is to destroy our economy and collapse our Republic.

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Good post.

In short, I absolutely believe that the aim is to destroy our economy and collapse our Republic.
I believe the Chinese would be satisfied with that effect as well.
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I believe the Chinese would be satisfied with that effect as well.

Exactly as planned, IMHO.

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Agreed.  Likewise, if my choice is between a doctor doing research and a doctor treating patients, I'l side with the doctor who treats patients.
I just don't think it's so cut and dried, lot's of doctors that do research make discoveries that doctors treating patients use to cure or to benefit those patients. And lots and lots of doctors that treat patients are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed to treat animals. Actually a MD requires 4 years(not counting residency while a DVM requires 8 years(not counting specialty training).