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Ships at California ports are now waiting RECORD 17 days to unload: Supply crisis gets worse after Biden vowed to fix it

STEPHEN M. LEPORE  |  PUBLISHED: 18:39 EST, 13 November 2021  |  UPDATED: 21:38 EST


The logjam at California's ports for ships to wait is now as long as 17 days - a new record amid the continuing  supply chain crisis just weeks before Black Friday and the holidays usually turn spending into overdrive..

There were as many as 83 ships at anchor and in a holding pattern outside ports in Los Angeles and Long Beach as of Friday night, officials said.

The nearly 17-day wait is double the wait time from just two months ago.  .  .  .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10199137/Backup-container-ships-outside-California-nearly-17-days.html
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To put that in perspective, a transit from Shanghai to LA takes between 18-20 days.
It is doubling the time for the cargo to hit the pier.
Expect freight rates to more than double, because the lost time the ship would be in motion means fewer cargoes, and the added expense of keeping ships' systems running during the wait.
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Ships are now waiting 150 miles offshore in order to avoid new fines that are being imposed.
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Ships are now waiting 150 miles offshore in order to avoid new fines that are being imposed.
The shallowest water out there is nearly 500 meters deep. (Fieberling Tablemount), so it is no place really to just drop anchor and wait. That means maintaining a steerageway and racetracking part of the ocean. More fuel spent going nowhere, which is doubtless better for the environment than allowing 5 year old trucks to haul cargo out of there. (/sarc)

 **nononono* Stupid leftists.
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Are the ships still diverting to Florida?

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Are the ships still diverting to Florida?
If so, add the cost of transit fees for the Panama Canal to the price of shipped goods. Those can run a half million dollars per vessel.
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This is the kind of stuff the conservative media needs to be hammering. Especially in the press room gaggles.

COVID policies and union slowdowns are what is causing this.
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If so, add the cost of transit fees for the Panama Canal to the price of shipped goods. Those can run a half million dollars per vessel.

Not to mention the lost time (and fuel) having to travel further.
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To put that in perspective, a transit from Shanghai to LA takes between 18-20 days.
It is doubling the time for the cargo to hit the pier.
Expect freight rates to more than double, because the lost time the ship would be in motion means fewer cargoes, and the added expense of keeping ships' systems running during the wait.

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Which is no small expense. Those things need to be moving through the water towards a destination if they are not loading or unloading.
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The shallowest water out there is nearly 500 meters deep. (Fieberling Tablemount), so it is no place really to just drop anchor and wait. That means maintaining a steerageway and racetracking part of the ocean. More fuel spent going nowhere, which is doubtless better for the environment than allowing 5 year old trucks to haul cargo out of there. (/sarc)

 **nononono* Stupid leftists.

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I guess they could throw out sea anchors and have the automatic guidance systems keep them "on track",but I have no idea at all how effective,if effective at all,sea anchors are on something that big that displaces that much water.
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This is the kind of stuff the conservative media needs to be hammering. Especially in the press room gaggles.



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No kidding.

Assuming of course that such a thing as a free media still exists.

Go on teebee and let the consumers know how much these delays are adding to their Christmas bills,and watch some trees get shaken.
 
I doubt most people even give those unnecessary added fees any consideration at all. Let them know and turn them loose.
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It is all just a part of the "great" reset...  these jabrones are playing for keeps...  don't doubt that for a moment...

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I guess they could throw out sea anchors and have the automatic guidance systems keep them "on track",but I have no idea at all how effective,if effective at all,sea anchors are on something that big that displaces that much water.
Even using thrusters to maintain station would not be cheap. Plus, they'd be using systems designed for in port maneuvering in the open ocean to maintain position, putting a lot of wear and tear on systems mainly built for less demanding use.
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