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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #101 on: November 22, 2021, 11:24:36 pm »
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #102 on: November 23, 2021, 03:11:36 pm »
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #103 on: November 23, 2021, 03:27:15 pm »
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #104 on: November 23, 2021, 03:36:14 pm »

BREAKING REPORT: Antifa Activist SMASHES IN GOP Senator John Hoeven’s Office Door with an Axe — GETS PROBATION and FBI Gives Him His Axe Back...— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) November 23, 2021

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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #106 on: November 23, 2021, 11:58:52 pm »
And yet the witchhunt continues. Note the date on this article - this has been public knowledge for two months, but the phony baloney investigation and subpoenas continue.
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FBI Undercover Agent on January 6 Received Text That Confirms No Trump-Led Plot to Overturn 2020 Election
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been outed in a New York Times piece for having undercover agents working the Capitol riot on January 6. Furthermore, the FBI agent was collaborating with a Proud Boys informant who confirmed there was no centralized plot to overturn the 2020 election results on Donald Trump’s behalf. As has been oft-repeated, the pro-Trump attendees were not part of any ‘pre-planned attack’:
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    As scores of Proud Boys made their way, chanting and shouting, toward the Capitol on Jan. 6, one member of the far-right group was busy texting a real-time account of the march.

    The recipient was his F.B.I. handler.

    In the middle of an unfolding melee that shook a pillar of American democracy — the peaceful transfer of power — the bureau had an informant in the crowd, providing an inside glimpse of the action, according to confidential records obtained by The New York Times. In the informant’s version of events, the Proud Boys, famous for their street fights, were largely following a pro-Trump mob consumed by a herd mentality rather than carrying out any type of preplanned attack.
The NY Times piece corroborates what was only recently labeled a “far-right conspiracy theory”: The FBI had undercover agents working the January 6 faux-insurrection who essentially did nothing to stop extremist groups from turning the Electoral College into an utterly chaotic mess. The Times provides details of how the FBI agent was working one extremist group during the developing Capitol riot ...
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #107 on: November 24, 2021, 01:25:33 am »
What I want to know is How many in the vanguard of that mess were ANTIFA/BLM and Federal "informants".
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #108 on: November 24, 2021, 01:31:40 am »
What I want to know is How many in the vanguard of that mess were ANTIFA/BLM and Federal "informants".
id like to see more of the video reportedly showing Capitol Hill cops beating the bejeesus out of middle aged female protestors. One supposedly to death.

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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #109 on: November 24, 2021, 01:39:58 am »
id like to see more of the video reportedly showing Capitol Hill cops beating the bejeesus out of middle aged female protestors. One supposedly to death.
I caught one video angle where a female (black) Capitol Hill Cop was just thrashing some woman with a baton. The woman did not pose a threat at that point. It looked like a crime of passion (and may have been, in the sense of all the ginned up racist nonsense going on at the time around the country).
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #111 on: November 24, 2021, 04:42:27 am »



So, these are all the GOOD PEOPLE.   Thanks for the list.  They need to sue back, en mass. 


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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #113 on: November 24, 2021, 02:19:25 pm »
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This thing is starting to smell more like early 1930's Nazi Germany by the day.  We are at the "round up the political dissadents" phase.
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #114 on: November 24, 2021, 02:35:26 pm »
I caught one video angle where a female (black) Capitol Hill Cop was just thrashing some woman with a baton. The woman did not pose a threat at that point. It looked like a crime of passion (and may have been, in the sense of all the ginned up racist nonsense going on at the time around the country).
I saw that too. These people utterly hate their political opposites that much.

Then we have to listen to the crap coming from this bogus "select committee".
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #115 on: November 24, 2021, 03:24:27 pm »
I saw that too. These people utterly hate their political opposites that much.

Then we have to listen to the crap coming from this bogus "select committee".
I have little doubt the information provided by the "select committee" will be as cherry-picked as its membership.

The investigation of an event like this should have been turned over to a committee of equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats, chosen at random.
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #116 on: November 24, 2021, 03:35:51 pm »
I have little doubt the information provided by the "select committee" will be as cherry-picked as its membership.

The investigation of an event like this should have been turned over to a committee of equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats, chosen at random.
An investigation like this should be done in good faith, this one has all the earmarks of a Soviet show trial.

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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #117 on: November 24, 2021, 04:08:28 pm »
An investigation like this should be done in good faith, this one has all the earmarks of a Soviet show trial.

 

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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #123 on: December 01, 2021, 12:41:48 am »
I probably sound like a worn-our record, but the important thing about 6 January was that it was huge gift to the Left, one that will continue to pay dividends to them for a long time to come. Fortunately, they have so many negatives working against them, that despite 6 January, patriots may do very well in the elections next November.

We need to keep hoping that they continue to push Critical Race Theory in the schools, and that a section of their loyal voter base keeps committing organized looting, especially of pricey shops located in white liberal areas.

And, not that I wish any of our people any harm, another Waukesha or two, committed by low-IQ low-impulse control people who have been told that their own failures are all due to white people, would not hurt our chances either.

And ... we need to organize at the ground level, so that at any future demonstrations, we have hundreds, or thousands, of men in organized groups, prepared to defend the demonstration, but under the command of cool-headed leaders who are intimately familiar with the law governing the use of force, and in particular deadly force, by non-law enforcement personnel.  As a secondary mission they could prevent provocations like 6 January. (Although agents provocateurs may have initiated the Capitol invasion, our side has enough naive people so that they could get plenty of followers.)

Both the Oathkeepers and the Three Percenters had the right idea, but both had leaderships which were inadequate to the task, which is mainly political, not quasi-military. Your group can be armed to the teeth, and have hundreds of combat-experienced vets ready to move, but if you fall into a trap like 6 January, all you will do is get a lot of people killed or imprisoned.

So ... we need to know the laws governing the use of force, and also the laws defining sedition.  There are still plenty of patriots who think they can write anything they like -- "traitors should be hung" -- and there will be no consequences.  On the contrary, you can go to prison just for writing something that a compliant justice system defines as conspiracy to commit violence.

Three decent men in George may spend the rest of their lives in prison because they were unwise in their understanding of when to undertake a "Citizens' arrest". (Basically: never.)

There is an eccentric anarchist in Florida who is now in prison and will be for several years, who got there because he wrote something stupid on his Facebook page.

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https://theintercept.com/2021/10/16/daniel-baker-anarchist-capitol-riot/
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/01/daniel-baker-florida-case-fbi-capitol

Under normal circumstances, he probably would have been ignored, but this gives them the opportunty to say, while they are imprisoning 6 January rioters, "See ... we're impartial... we go after the Left as well."

This is by far the most important lesson of 6 January.  It's purely negative: don't set yourself up by saying or writing things which, when repeated to a cold unsmiling jury by a prosecutor, can  get you locked up.  Just imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse had, just once, written something like "we must eradicate all enemies of America" -- something I've seen written dozens of times by people who have let their emotions outrun their thinking. We would have heard it quoted fifty times an hour during the trial and it might well have swayed jurors away from their final, correct, verdict.

And note that any serious organization will be penetrated by informants -- there is no way to prevent this. They are there not only to record, but to encourage patriots to say something worth recording.

And we must not forget the role of Russians, working from abroad via social media, trying to stir up violence within the US. The so-called 'Boogaloo Bois' were probably incited to commit their murders by some of these people.

We're playing by "Big Boys' Rules" now. The other side have neither honor nor conscience, and will do everything they can ... especially in the run-up to the elections next year ... to manufacture some sort of 'domestic right-wing terrorist threat'.  We mustn't aid them in this.
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