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Offline Elderberry

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Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM,PHD) 10/23/2021

Why are the current Covid-19 mass vaccinations to be considered a public health experiment

Why are the current Covid-19 mass vaccinations to be considered a public health experiment of international concern?

First, there is no precedent to the use of non-replicating viral vaccines in mass vaccination campaigns conducted during a pandemic, or even epidemic, of a highly mutable virus. The challenge of such an undertaking becomes even more difficult as more infectious antigenic variants had already been circulating by the time the first mass vaccination campaigns were initiated (i.e., Alpha, Beta, and Gamma variants). Their spread was featured by distinct temporal and geographic patterns, the underlying mechanism of which was not understood. Prior to the start of this universal vaccination program no single publication existed that came even close to suggesting that mass vaccinations using vaccines that permit transmission could be successful in extinguishing a pandemic of a highly mutable virus. No such publication exists to this day, and the idea becomes even more preposterous when considering several infectious variants had already expanded in prevalence by the time the vaccines were rolled out. There is ample evidence from similarly highly mutable RNA viruses like Influenza virus and Enterovirus that expansion in prevalence of antigenic variants is driven by selective immune pressure on viral infectiousness exerted by antibodies, and that antigenic variation diminishes or even abolishes the protective neutralization capacity of Influenza virus or Enterovirus vaccines directed at a specific antigenic lineage (1, 2). Consequently, nonreplicating monovalent enteroviral vaccines, for example, are only used at scale in vaccination campaigns of vulnerable target groups (e.g., children) deployed to fight recurrent epidemics of life-threatening enterovirus infection (e.g., EV-A71) in the Asia Pacific region (3). Interestingly, the US FDA did not approve these vaccines due to ‘concerns about the effectiveness against different pandemic strains, safety, and quality control of vaccine production’ (3).     

Mass vaccination programs previously conducted to combat viral epidemics/pandemics (e.g., smallpox, polio, measles, yellow fever) have nothing in common with the ongoing mass vaccination campaigns today as those viruses are very different in terms of their pathogenesis, transmissibility, route of infection, potential reservoirs, predominant effector mechanisms involved in antiviral immunity, susceptibility of population segments, as well as with regard to the vaccines used (all prior vaccination campaigns involved live-attenuated virus).

In addition, vaccine efficacy as assessed during clinical trials is different from viral effectiveness, which reflects how well a vaccine performs in the field. Viral effectiveness, therefore, depends on the level of infectious pressure exerted by the viral population and the level of immune selection pressure exerted by the host population (among other factors). Those can be very different from the ones prevailing during clinical trials. This particularly applies when the vaccine is used in mass vaccination campaigns rolled out in the middle of a pandemic of more infectious variants. Because of large-scale pharmaceutical (e.g., mass vaccination) and nonpharmaceutical (e.g., infection-prevention measures) human interventions, significant changes in viral infectious pressure and population-level immune pressure can suddenly take place and dramatically accelerate or slow down the evolutionary dynamics of a pandemic, especially if more infectious variants are circulating.

More: https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-are-the-current-covid-19-mass-vaccinations-to-be-considered-a-public-health-experiment

Offline PeteS in CA

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The first sentence of his article:

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First, there is no precedent to the use of non-replicating viral vaccines in mass vaccination campaigns conducted during a pandemic, or even epidemic, of a highly mutable virus.

The Pfizer vaccine being used in the US is not a "non-replicating viral vaccine" - not traditional weakened virus technology, not viral vector technology (which uses benign viruses such as an adenovirus as a carrier). mRNA vaccines do not contain viruses of any type.

The Moderna vaccine being used in the US is not a "non-replicating viral vaccine" - not traditional weakened virus technology, not viral vector technology. mRNA vaccines do not contain viruses of any type.

The only vaccine in US in the US that is a "non-replicating viral vaccine" is J&J's, which uses viral vector technology. Last I checked (within the past week), J&J's vaccine has been slightly less that 3.75% of the Covid vaccine doses administered in the US. AstraZeneca's vaccine, not authorized for US usage (nor requested by AZ), has been heavily used in the UK, and possibly in EuroLand.

So Vanden Bossche's premise statement is largely false, at least for the US context. Who is Geert Vanden Bossche? "DVM" means he's a veterinarian. The "PHD" (sic) refers to his PhD in Virology. He has not, that I've found, done actual vaccine development. He has been in management at at least one company that is working on developing an NK cell ("Natural Killer") vaccine (dead virus technology) and/or treatment. IOW, Vanden Bossche has a $$ interest in denigrating Covid vaccines currently in use. Vanden Bossche's article does not disclose this $$ interest.

So, a (mostly) false premise, lack of direct experience, an undisclosed financial interest, and playing on people's confirmation bias or lack of information. This is an example of why I refer to anti-Covid-vaxxer "information" like Vanden Bossche's as "Pig Crap".
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.