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Should I upgrade to Windows 11 now?

Yes, go ahead!
Not yet.  Wait until just before the free upgrade expires!
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #75 on: December 15, 2021, 02:36:54 pm »
Okay...I tried installing W11 and it wouldn't connect...I kept getting this

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/secure-connection-failed-firefox-did-not-connect

This doesn't make sense since I was able to install 11 on Mike's laptop with the same settings

Is this because I have FF as my dedicated browser?

These instructions are all Greek to me... :shrug:

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« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2021, 02:41:25 pm »
Okay...I tried installing W11 and it wouldn't connect...I kept getting this

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/secure-connection-failed-firefox-did-not-connect

This doesn't make sense since I was able to install 11 on Mike's laptop with the same settings

Is this because I have FF as my dedicated browser?

These instructions are all Greek to me... :shrug:



What website were you trying to connect to?

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« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2021, 02:54:53 pm »
What website were you trying to connect to?

None...I got this error when it was downloading..
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« Reply #78 on: December 15, 2021, 02:56:17 pm »
None...I got this error when it was downloading..

Downloading the W11 via firefox?

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« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2021, 03:03:16 pm »
Downloading the W11 via firefox?

Nothing was open...I was on the start menu got the link to download...hit download and all this popped up
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« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2021, 03:11:38 pm »
Nothing was open...I was on the start menu got the link to download...hit download and all this popped up

Hmmm, strange.  And also at the end of my very meager knowledge!  Hopefully one of the computer whizzes will be by shortly to help!  Sorry!

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« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2021, 03:51:04 pm »
So...Firefox is halting the update, even though it's not running in the foreground.  It must be running in the background.  Curious.  I want to ponder this a bit.
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2021, 04:54:41 pm »
So...Firefox is halting the update, even though it's not running in the foreground.  It must be running in the background.  Curious.  I want to ponder this a bit.

Well 2nd time was a charm...What I did this time was clean and clear cookies with ccleaner shut down..power up went straight to the start menu and downloaded it... :shrug:
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« Reply #83 on: December 25, 2021, 09:24:05 pm »
Well, I got put on a job with a brand new Win 11 'puter.

It is just similar enough to Win 10 to aggravate me. Previous drop down menus that I used in 10 require me to click on "other options" before I can do what took only one mouse click before. Seems like another step backward for efficiency-I don't like it.
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #84 on: December 25, 2021, 09:43:06 pm »
I'm getting the 11 push popups too.
Clicked on it just for no reason a few days ago.
Kept telling me that first I have to download this thing and that thing, before I can get the upgrade.
No way. Exit and reboot. Maybe it was real? Maybe it was a virus site.
Either way I see no need to go 11. Windows updates have a very bad reputation.
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #85 on: December 25, 2021, 09:48:40 pm »
I'm getting the 11 push popups too.
Clicked on it just for no reason a few days ago.
Kept telling me that first I have to download this thing and that thing, before I can get the upgrade.
No way. Exit and reboot. Maybe it was real? Maybe it was a virus site.
Either way I see no need to go 11. Windows updates have a very bad reputation.

CNET agrees with you in their review, Win11 doesn't offer much to folks that run 10.

But, nature will take it's course when they decide to not support W10.
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #86 on: December 25, 2021, 10:46:04 pm »
I humbly admit that I am the least computer literate member on this board.

I accidently installed Win11 when a pop up appeared and said install "install now or later". I naively thought there would be another option that would give me the control to do so. Nope...it installed "later" without my prompting.

I was content with Win 10. Win 11 has messed up the start, my wallpaper and Excell access.  8888crybaby

But I guess I'll learn to be tickled pink over it....eventually. Be cranky now or be cranky later!!! I don't like change. :laugh:

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« Reply #87 on: December 25, 2021, 11:37:24 pm »
I humbly admit that I am the least computer literate member on this board.

I accidently installed Win11 when a pop up appeared and said install "install now or later". I naively thought there would be another option that would give me the control to do so. Nope...it installed "later" without my prompting.

I was content with Win 10. Win 11 has messed up the start, my wallpaper and Excell access.  8888crybaby

But I guess I'll learn to be tickled pink over it....eventually. Be cranky now or be cranky later!!! I don't like change. :laugh:

I don't like it either.  This machine, my main one, is still W10.  I have a couple of both.
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« Reply #88 on: December 26, 2021, 02:16:43 am »
I humbly admit that I am the least computer literate member on this board.

I accidently installed Win11 when a pop up appeared and said install "install now or later". I naively thought there would be another option that would give me the control to do so. Nope...it installed "later" without my prompting.

I was content with Win 10. Win 11 has messed up the start, my wallpaper and Excell access.  8888crybaby

But I guess I'll learn to be tickled pink over it....eventually. Be cranky now or be cranky later!!! I don't like change. :laugh:

Thankfully, ALL of my W10 boxes are just old enough that they will not support W11 without some intervention on my part and that is not going to happen anytime soon.
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #89 on: December 26, 2021, 02:30:35 am »
I humbly admit that I am the least computer literate member on this board.

I accidently installed Win11 when a pop up appeared and said install "install now or later". I naively thought there would be another option that would give me the control to do so. Nope...it installed "later" without my prompting.

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You CAN change it back... Settings=>Updates and Security=> Recovery

Should be a thing in there to revert to previous operating system...

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I was content with Win 10. Win 11 has messed up the start, my wallpaper and Excell access.  8888crybaby
But I guess I'll learn to be tickled pink over it....eventually. Be cranky now or be cranky later!!! I don't like change. :laugh:

Not me... had it on for about a week, and reloaded back to 10
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #90 on: December 26, 2021, 04:56:55 pm »
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You CAN change it back... Settings=>Updates and Security=> Recovery

Should be a thing in there to revert to previous operating system...

Not me... had it on for about a week, and reloaded back to 10



Thanks @roamer_1 . I'll save this info should I find that I just can't deal with 11. For now things are ok and I can see me really making a mess of things if I try to reload 10. Remember I said I'm illiterate, lol.

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« Reply #91 on: December 26, 2021, 05:06:55 pm »
@berdie
You CAN change it back... Settings=>Updates and Security=> Recovery

Should be a thing in there to revert to previous operating system...

Not me... had it on for about a week, and reloaded back to 10
I see 11 as the new Vista...
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Re: Windows 11 (Poll included)
« Reply #92 on: December 26, 2021, 05:12:32 pm »


Thanks @roamer_1 . I'll save this info should I find that I just can't deal with 11. For now things are ok and I can see me really making a mess of things if I try to reload 10. Remember I said I'm illiterate, lol.

   That option in Win 10 (to revert back to Win 7) was only good for 30 days since initial install.  That may be in Win 11 also (30 day trail period). @berdie
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« Reply #93 on: December 26, 2021, 07:44:29 pm »
If before you upgrade to 11, you take an image backup of your system using a program such as Macrium, then you can restore back to that image at any time.

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« Reply #94 on: December 27, 2021, 05:06:21 am »
I see 11 as the new Vista...

Yeah... Not impressed with the fit and feel. There are some things under the hood that are pretty nice... It feels smoother, faster... DriverID seems to be even better. And I was surprised when it found unpaired bluetooth automatically and asked me if I wanted to hook it up... A simple yes, and there it was.

But fit and feel, it feels more like a downgrade. HATE the new start bar. Everything seems to take two or three more clicks... meh.
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« Reply #95 on: December 27, 2021, 12:38:31 pm »
If before you upgrade to 11, you take an image backup of your system using a program such as Macrium, then you can restore back to that image at any time.

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« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2021, 02:20:03 pm »
Yeah... Not impressed with the fit and feel. There are some things under the hood that are pretty nice... It feels smoother, faster... DriverID seems to be even better. And I was surprised when it found unpaired bluetooth automatically and asked me if I wanted to hook it up... A simple yes, and there it was.

But fit and feel, it feels more like a downgrade. HATE the new start bar. Everything seems to take two or three more clicks... meh.
The start bar is crap, and I don't like the feel of it, not after the vertical bars of systems past. It has a phone feel to it, and I don't want my computer to feel like a phone, nor do I want my phone to take over what the  'puter does.

But it is the multiple click bit that aggravates me. I frequently rename data files to smooth importing them into other programs, and it takes two click to get to "rename" instead of just one. Every time is wasted time, and when it is crunch time on this job, every second can count. Also to get down to compressing or sending files in the option stack, it is the two click trip. You'd think they were in cahoots with the people who make computer mice, because that will cut the useful life of the mouse in half. (Yes, I have worn those little micro-switches out before, just as I have worn the letters off of keyboards.--E,C,L,A N, seem to go first...)
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« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2021, 06:00:41 pm »
The start bar is crap, and I don't like the feel of it, not after the vertical bars of systems past. It has a phone feel to it, and I don't want my computer to feel like a phone, nor do I want my phone to take over what the  'puter does.


Yes, it is a  downgrade in usability for me - Though I am a menu hawg. Like I said, I use three panels on the start menu to organize my front end. All of that is completely GONE in 11... Which would not be bad if the thing they replaced it with - The widgets button (that now must take up very expensive real estate on my start bar), which is a feed tool rather than the simple widgets of win10... Designed around feed... I can't even get all of my PiM tools in there.  9999hair out0000

Now that Start is only minimally arrange-able, one is really limited to deep search of the menu, or a Win+R style of find\execute (which is my fallback) - I can do it alright - But I don't like it.

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But it is the multiple click bit that aggravates me. I frequently rename data files to smooth importing them into other programs, and it takes two click to get to "rename" instead of just one. Every time is wasted time, and when it is crunch time on this job, every second can count. Also to get down to compressing or sending files in the option stack, it is the two click trip. You'd think they were in cahoots with the people who make computer mice, because that will cut the useful life of the mouse in half. (Yes, I have worn those little micro-switches out before, just as I have worn the letters off of keyboards.--E,C,L,A N, seem to go first...)

I heard that alright! I am an RDP freak (Remote Desktop) which is also in the [...more] list. I also rename a lot. The new context menu is crap... And I wreck Ctrl, Win, C, V, R, and down-arrow. I wreck about  a keyboard per year on my main laptop and on my main whip desktop (which is actually KVM'd to three machines)... I HATE extra steps - Especially without need or reason.

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« Reply #98 on: January 01, 2022, 02:38:41 am »
Sounds like I won't be converting my current Win10 system to Win11. 

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« Reply #99 on: January 01, 2022, 12:11:17 pm »
Sounds like I won't be converting my current Win10 system to Win11.
I wouldn't. I have a Win 10 and a Win 11 here at work, and I'd rather have two Win 10s. The Win 11 machine aggravates me for its inefficiency.
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