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Anthony Fauci explains why there could be a 'dangerous' winter spike in Covid-19

Daily COVID-19 cases rose by 29 percent in the past 14 days with the country reporting more than 93,000 cases per day.
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Adam Barnes | Nov. 22, 2021



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    White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci on Sunday warned of a possible spike in coronavirus cases as the U.S. heads into the winter months.
    Fauci told CNN’s Dana Bash on Sunday that people moving indoors, waning vaccine-born immunity, and millions of unvaccinated Americans creates a potentially dangerous situation.
    “And that results in the dynamic of virus in the community that not only is dangerous and makes people who are unvaccinated vulnerable, but it also spills over into the vaccinated people, because no vaccine is 100 percent effective,” Fauci said.

White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci on Sunday warned of a possible spike in coronavirus cases as the U.S. heads into the winter months.

Fauci told CNN’s Dana Bash on Sunday that people moving indoors, waning vaccine-born immunity, and millions of unvaccinated Americans creates a potentially dangerous situation.

“And that results in the dynamic of virus in the community that not only is dangerous and makes people who are unvaccinated vulnerable, but it also spills over into the vaccinated people, because no vaccine is 100 percent effective,” Fauci said.

“And when you have a lot of virus circulating around, we know that there are breakthrough infections, and that's how you get the uptick in cases,” he added.

Daily COVID-19 cases increased by 29 percent in the past 14 days with the country reporting more than 93,000 cases per day.

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Fauci told CNN’s Dana Bash on Sunday that people moving indoors, .  .  .

Wasn't Fauci the one telling us to remain indoors when this thing first broke?
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Let me see if I got this right, FLU season is the winter months so this 'expert' is warning us of something anyone older than oh say seven knows that the flu will spike in the winter. Well thank God for Fauci, eh? because who could have seen increased risk of flu in the winter flu season without him?

If Fauci really cared about keeping Americans safe he would quarantine himself in his home, limit speaking and breathing so as not to infect others, because we know the vaccine doesn't work. And continue this safe practice for the next, let's see Fauci is 79, so continue this practice for the next 20 years. Now that would help insure the health and safety of Americans.

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Because it's a seasonal virus, the vaccine failed, and public health still pretends that it is a moral failure that's causing it.

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They need to keep Fauci off TV.  His fifteen minutes of fame are up.

D'uh!  Of course there will be a Covid spike during the Holidays.

The statistics to watch are:

- % of hospitalizations for vaccinated vs unvaccinated
- % of ICU beds occupied by vaccinated vs unvaccinated
- % of deaths of vaccinated vs unvaccinated
- correlation of % vaccinated vs covid positivity rate seven day average
- % absenteeism due to illness

It is clearly evident that vaccines are not offering the protection from Covid infections as first hoped.

The value determination that remains is measuring their short-term and long-term efficacy against hospitalizations, deaths, and economic dislocations.

The current mRNA vaccines target only target the intially sequenced spike proteins.  Until additional Covid-19/SARS2 proteins or variations are targeted, the virus only needs to recombine or mutate enough to change the spike proteins to defeat the vaccines.

We are in a race against a virus that had a long headstart because of the deceit and duplicity of the Chinese Communist Party, and the incompetence of the initial CDC response.
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“And that results in the dynamic of virus in the community that not only is dangerous and makes people who are unvaccinated vulnerable, but it also spills over into the vaccinated people, because no vaccine is 100 percent effective,” Fauci said.

What pathetic word parsing. If it's truly dangerous to vaccinated people because no vaccine is 100% effective, then to qualify as 'dangerous' the vaccine would have to be outright faulty and ineffective.

Which at this point one would ask themselves why get vaccinated because it seems to be no more effective than remaining unvaccinated.
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“And that results in the dynamic of virus in the community that not only is dangerous and makes people who are unvaccinated vulnerable, but it also spills over into the vaccinated people, because no vaccine is 100 percent effective,” Fauci said.

But unlike an actual vaccine, this jab is 0% effective at generating an immune response against the SARS-2 virus itself.
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The statistics to watch are:

- % of hospitalizations for vaccinated vs unvaccinated
- % of ICU beds occupied by vaccinated vs unvaccinated
- % of deaths of vaccinated vs unvaccinated
- correlation of % vaccinated vs covid positivity rate seven day average
- % absenteeism due to illness

I'm wondering just how many of these stats have been done away with since they realize the vaccine isn't nearly as effective as they proclaimed.
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How about five words: "I plead guilty, your honor."
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How about five words: "I plead guilty, your honor."

That would work as well!
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But unlike an actual vaccine, this jab is 0% effective at generating an immune response against the SARS-2 virus itself.
This is complete disinformation. Enough.
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This is complete disinformation. Enough.

Actually, it is completely true.  The body needs to see the virus in order to develop an immune response against it.  The Covid jab contains no SARS-2 virus.  Thus, no antibodies.

What it does do is try to create what it thinks the spike proteins on the virus overcoat look like, and the body develops an immune response to those proteins.  The response creates a mesh against those proteins which blocks those proteins from gaining hold of the cell wall.

But sometimes those spike proteins are not adequately covered, and they are still able to gain hold of the cell wall.  When that happens, the SARS-2 virus inside that coat is able to gain access to the interior of the cell, where it takes over and replicates itself en masse.

It is only at that point that the body begins to generate an immune response against the SARS-2 virus, because it is only now that the body has come in contact with it.
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Because he had his Chinese pals brew up a fresh batch for the Christmas Season?

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The misinformation is that the shots immunize us from Covid-19/SARS2.  If they did, there wouldn't be so many breakthrough infections within a months of receiving them.  I personally know (2) recipients of the J&J shot and (2) recipients of the Moderna shot who have contracted Covid-19/SARS2 infections, but non required hospitalization.  The J&J recipeients were mildy symptomatic.  The Moderna recipients were asymptomatic.  I did get my 3rd Pfizer boost last week because it still offers protection against risk of hospitalization and death.

mRNA technology is new.  It's immunological efficacy requires more study and understanding.  The current mRNA shots are based upon sequences of the spike proteins from the original Wuhan strains of the virus.  The mRNA shots are an effective at reducing likelihood of hosipitalization and death.  The efficacy of preventing infection and preventing spread has come into question since the Delta variant.

Are people who have received the measles and smallpop vaccines having the same per capita percentage of breakthrough infections?

We all want the mandates, masking, social distancing, and disruptions to end.  The shots have not lived up to their original pollyana hopium.  They remain a valuable tool against hospitalization and death, but not as effective as hoped against infection and transmission.

I will continue to mask, wash my hands, and socially distance while inside indoor public spaces.

My wife and I went out to dinner (indoors) with some neighbors for the first time since February 2020.  None have experienced any symptomatic infections as a result.  I cannot say that none experienced nonsymptomatic infections because there is insufficient testing and community surveillance to make such a claim.

My mother-in-law and father-in-law just completed a cross-Atlantic cruise from Amsterdam, Netherlands, to Port Everglades, Florida.  The were tested before they boarded the flight to Amsterdam.  They were squestered to their hotel in Amsterdam until they boarded the ship.  They were tested again before they boarded the ship in Amsterdam.  The were tested yet again before they disembarked the ship in Port Everglades, FL.  There were no cases of Covid-19/SARS2 on the ship at anytime during the cruise.

My wife and I are thinking of rescheduling our cancelled March, 2020, cruises for after April 1st, 2022.

With the shots, masking, social distancing, disinfection, hand washing, testing, and community surveillance, quality of life can improve.

We are not ready to party like Spring Break, and we may not be for a while.  In the meantime, lets enjoy as much progress as we can make with the tools we have now.  The alternatives are complete isolation; economic, social and poltical collapse; and dying alone on a respirator in a hospital ICU.
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The shots have not lived up to their original pollyana hopium.  They remain a valuable tool against hospitalization and death, but not as effective as hoped against infection and transmission.

Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc, anti-inflamatories, and certain antibiotics have also proven to be a valuable tool against hospitalization and death.  But as far as treatments go, the anti-parasitics are only given to people who are infected while the shots are given only to people who are not (and may never be) infected.
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