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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2021, 07:50:25 pm »
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2021, 07:50:36 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on October 04, 2021, 07:27:59 pm
Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp Down Worldwide After DNS Records Vanish; Employees Badges Reportedly Not Working

TYLER DURDEN   |   OCT 04, 2021 - 12:12 PM

Update (1507ET): Facebook appears to have more than DNS issues, as NYT's Sheera Frenkel reports:

"Was just on phone with someone who works for FB who described employees unable to enter buildings this morning to begin to evaluate extent of outage because their badges weren't working to access doors."


https://twitter.com/sheeraf/status/1445099150316503057

This may suggest Facebook's internal systems are down. DNS issues that affect the website don't hinder employees from entering buildings.

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Update (1448ET): It's been several hours, and Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, and Facebook Messenger, are still down. According to internet researchers, Facebook appears to be dealing with a Domain Name System (DNS) issue.



Internet security researcher

Brian Krebs tweeted:

Confirmed: The DNS records that tell systems how to find Facebook.com or Instagram.com got withdrawn this morning from the global routing tables. Can you imagine working at FB right now, when your email no longer works & all your internal FB-based tools fail?

To be more precise (and Geek Factor 5) the BGP routes serving Facebook's authoritative DNS were withdrawn, rendering all Facebook domains inaccessible. That's per @DougMadory , who knows a few things about BGP/DNS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/facebook-instagram-whatsapp-experience-global-outages

I think it’s safe to say that this isn’t just some routine DDoS attack. 
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2021, 07:50:48 pm »
Twitter is starting to break also.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2021, 07:54:11 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on October 04, 2021, 07:50:48 pm
Twitter is starting to break also.

Please God! Let it be so!
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2021, 07:55:35 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on October 04, 2021, 07:50:36 pm
I think it’s safe to say that this isn’t just some routine DDoS attack.

No, someone had to have had inside access to pull this off.  Even company ID badges stopped working.  People couldn't get in the building.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2021, 07:57:29 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on October 04, 2021, 07:50:48 pm
Twitter is starting to break also.

Now THAT would be awesome.
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« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2021, 08:00:47 pm »
I wonder if this was on the "Please Don't Hack" list that Biden so graciously provided.
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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2021, 08:01:25 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on October 04, 2021, 07:55:35 pm
No, someone had to have had inside access to pull this off.  Even company ID badges stopped working.  People couldn't get in the building.

Which just goes to show that no matter how technologically advanced your building is…you always need a couple doors you can still open with a physical metal key. 
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2021, 08:01:38 pm »
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« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2021, 08:05:00 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on October 04, 2021, 08:01:38 pm
Krebs has some info on the failure:  https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-facebook-instagram-whatsapp/

Sounds like it's internal.

That's better than the alternative.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2021, 08:06:59 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on October 04, 2021, 08:05:00 pm
Sounds like it's internal.

That's better than the alternative.


Either it was some sophisticated hacking, or the world's all-time worst snafu.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2021, 08:09:13 pm »
Imagine a world without Facebook...

Its not hard if you try...

LOL!
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« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2021, 08:14:06 pm »
May have been a detected intrusion which was not able to be blocked so the system made itself invisible to prevent real damage..  Pretty smart if that is what happened.....
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2021, 08:19:59 pm »
Quote from: DB on October 04, 2021, 08:09:13 pm
Imagine a world without Facebook...

Its not hard if you try...

LOL!

 Some years later, that nice young man from Facebook was on his way home to count his billions. For no particular reason at all, somebody shot him.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2021, 08:20:07 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on October 04, 2021, 08:06:59 pm

Either it was some sophisticated hacking, or the world's all-time worst snafu.

Or internal sabotage timed with the whistleblower interview.

As I understand it DNS and IP records are critical infrastructure, internet backbone stuff. Info that is safeguarded and requires high level access.

If those can be taken down that easily by any competent hacker, then the internet is in big trouble.

Or, we got trojan horse activists with backbone access who have no problem shutting down anyone who doesn't fall in line.

Last option is a govt.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2021, 08:20:26 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on October 04, 2021, 08:14:06 pm
May have been a detected intrusion which was not able to be blocked so the system made itself invisible to prevent real damage..  Pretty smart if that is what happened.....

I suppose that's possible, but it's still poor design if they didn't segment the whole thing so that the entire thing would not be taken down by one intrusion.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2021, 08:21:19 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on October 04, 2021, 08:20:07 pm
Or internal sabotage timed with the whistleblower interview.

As I understand it DNS and IP records are critical infrastructure, internet backbone stuff. Info that is safeguarded and requires high level access.

If those can be taken down that easily by any competent hacker, then the internet is in big trouble.

Or, we got trojan horse activists with backbone access who have no problem shutting down anyone who doesn't fall in line.

Last option is a govt.

It appears to have been an internal event.  That could either be a hacker who got inside, or a legit employee who deployed the wrong files.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2021, 08:25:31 pm »
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I bet it put a smile on your face.

It did mine.

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« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2021, 08:28:46 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on October 04, 2021, 08:21:19 pm
It appears to have been an internal event.  That could either be a hacker who got inside, or a legit employee who deployed the wrong files.

Or a legit employee who did it with malice and forethought.
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« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2021, 08:36:22 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on October 04, 2021, 08:28:46 pm
Or a legit employee who did it with malice and forethought.

Considering the timing, I'm applying Rule #39.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2021, 08:38:19 pm »
Quote from: DB on October 04, 2021, 07:36:18 pm
FB's US IP address is: 31.13.70.13

It doesn't respond which means this is more than just a DNS issue.

Yep. Didn't make sense with the information that user data was compromised and being sold on a hacker site... Either they hit the DNS servers or they hit Faceboot... Unlikely they would do both.

So... Servers down makes more sense with the user leak.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2021, 08:39:49 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on October 04, 2021, 08:28:46 pm
Or a legit employee who did it with malice and forethought.

That's possible; I would tend to categorize that as a hack - unauthorized access to a secured network, system, or machine.
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« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2021, 08:41:20 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on October 04, 2021, 08:19:59 pm
Some years later, that nice young man from Facebook was on his way home to count his billions. For no particular reason at all, somebody shot him.
and thats all you’d better say about that.
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2021, 08:42:00 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on October 04, 2021, 08:36:22 pm
Considering the timing, I'm applying Rule #39.

If you mean Gibbs rule 39 (There is no such thing as a coincidence), I concur!
« Last Edit: October 04, 2021, 09:02:01 pm by Bigun »
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Re: Facebook is down! Massive outage
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2021, 09:01:05 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on October 04, 2021, 08:00:47 pm
I wonder if this was on the "Please Don't Hack" list that Biden so graciously provided.
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