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TERRAFORMING: Carbon-sucking machine switched on in Iceland, will remove 4,000 tons of CO2 from the atmosphere each year, harming rainforests and food crops

09/13/2021 / By Mary Villareal

The world’s biggest carbon-sucking machine, called Orca, is a $15 million device that can capture 4,000 tons of CO2 per year and is billed to reverse climate change (but actually harms rainforests and food crops by reducing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere).

The “direct air capture” (DAC) machine was created by Zurich-based company Climeworks and it was launched at the Hellisheiði Power Station in Iceland on Wednesday.

Orca uses a filter to extract and permanently remove CO2 from surrounding air. It is estimated to capture 4,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year — equivalent to the annual emissions from 790 cars.

While the feat is notable, this total is a mere fraction of global CO2 emissions, which totaled 34.7 billion tons in the last year, as per the International Energy Agency.

https://www.climate.news/2021-09-13-carbon-sucking-machine-switched-on-in-iceland.html

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It is estimated to capture 4,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year — equivalent to the annual emissions from 790 cars

That is laughable, by anyone's standards.

For comparison' sake, NYC residents currently own approximately 2 million cars.  Source (2017 registrations): https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/10/03/car-ownership-continues-to-rise-under-mayor-de-blasio/

So, assuming that the figure was exactly 2 million, turning something like this on in NYC would still leave the emissions from 1,999,210 cars floating around in NYC.  That's a reduction of 0.0395%.

Alternatively, in order to fully capture the emissions from all 2 million cars, 2,532 of these machines would be needed, at a total cost of about $38 billion.  And that's before the cost of acquiring the real estate needed to site all of those machines.

So, that's a pretty little toy the Icelanders have, but it's not a solution to anything other than those who need a new virtue-signaling device.


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That is laughable, by anyone's standards.

For comparison' sake, NYC residents currently own approximately 2 million cars.  Source (2017 registrations): https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/10/03/car-ownership-continues-to-rise-under-mayor-de-blasio/

So, assuming that the figure was exactly 2 million, turning something like this on in NYC would still leave the emissions from 1,999,210 cars floating around in NYC.  That's a reduction of 0.0395%.

Alternatively, in order to fully capture the emissions from all 2 million cars, 2,532 of these machines would be needed, at a total cost of about $38 billion.  And that's before the cost of acquiring the real estate needed to site all of those machines.

So, that's a pretty little toy the Icelanders have, but it's not a solution to anything other than those who need a new virtue-signaling device.
But they feel better about themselves....that's what really matters....lol.

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And how much CO2 was generated in the manufacturing of the steel and the power to run this miracle machine?????

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That is laughable, by anyone's standards.

For comparison' sake, NYC residents currently own approximately 2 million cars.  Source (2017 registrations): https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/10/03/car-ownership-continues-to-rise-under-mayor-de-blasio/

So, assuming that the figure was exactly 2 million, turning something like this on in NYC would still leave the emissions from 1,999,210 cars floating around in NYC.  That's a reduction of 0.0395%.

Alternatively, in order to fully capture the emissions from all 2 million cars, 2,532 of these machines would be needed, at a total cost of about $38 billion.  And that's before the cost of acquiring the real estate needed to site all of those machines.

So, that's a pretty little toy the Icelanders have, but it's not a solution to anything other than those who need a new virtue-signaling device.
You haven't mentioned the carbon footprint for building, transporting, operating, and decommissioning these machines, either.
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You haven't mentioned the carbon footprint for building, transporting, operating, and decommissioning these machines, either.

Very true; that simply makes the case even more appalling.

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Kamaji complained:
"That is laughable, by anyone's standards..."

Don't you understand?
At least they're "doing something" about CO2...   ;--)

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Just plant a few more trees.

A lot cheaper
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Kamaji complained:
"That is laughable, by anyone's standards..."

Don't you understand?
At least they're "doing something" about CO2...   ;--)

Don't you understand that plants LOVE CO2 and provide us more oxygen after consuming it.
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What is the carbon footprint of Orca?  What fuel source powers Orca?

I know my basement dehumidifier is a electricity hog.
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Our oceans absorb more CO2 than that, through plankton and algae photosynthesis and molecular diffusion, in about 12 hours. Plants and trees absorb a great deal more. Now, consider that the total CO2 content in the atmosphere is 0.38%, and that human CO2 content in the air is only 0.0016 percent of total atmospheric volume. And this machine is supposed to remove 4,000 metric tons of CO2 per year - or 913 lbs. per hour from the air from a single location? Really?
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Just plant a few more trees.

A lot cheaper

And it works, unless you plant the trees in California, in which case, sooner or later your "carbon sink" will burn in a wildfire.
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Bigun wrote:
"Don't you understand that plants LOVE CO2 and provide us more oxygen after consuming it."

Hehe, I guess you missed the "wink" at the end of my post...

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Bigun wrote:
"Don't you understand that plants LOVE CO2 and provide us more oxygen after consuming it."

Hehe, I guess you missed the "wink" at the end of my post...

Yeah! I guess I did.   888high58888
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That is laughable, by anyone's standards.


So, that's a pretty little toy the Icelanders have, but it's not a solution to anything other than those who need a new virtue-signaling device.

I know nothing about the technology these people are using for their stupid little CO2 vacuum cleaner.  One point though, if it is successful how is it going to impact the plants, trees proximal to their little gadget?  You know...  that little photosynthesis thingy,,,   :silly:

I seriously doubt this thing will do shit, and will be the equivalant of a gnat's wing beat impacting the path of a hurricane.  The real winners here are the schiesters who sold them the equivalant of  human Rube Goldberg money sucking  device.
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And it works, unless you plant the trees in California, in which case, sooner or later your "carbon sink" will burn in a wildfire.
That's just fine by the people who howl at the thought of flaring excess natural gas at our wells, but turn our skies gray with smoke for weeks out of the year. (I'm sure there are folks there who aren't happy at all their stuff burning up, either.)
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I know nothing about the technology these people are using for their stupid little CO2 vacuum cleaner.  One point though, if it is successful how is it going to impact the plants, trees proximal to their little gadget?  You know...  that little photosynthesis thingy,,,   :silly:

I seriously doubt this thing will do shit, and will be the equivalant of a gnat's wing beat impacting the path of a hurricane.  The real winners here are the schiesters who sold them the equivalant of  human Rube Goldberg money sucking  device.
What you are missing is the crux of the Leftist mindset. If it doesn't work, they either need more of them (they just haven't tried hard enough) or they will find a way to blame Trump.
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Let's imagine for a second that the mainstream AGW theory is correct, and we have to remove a lot of CO2 out of the atmosphere. IMO building these machines is a lot more efficient than enabling government to regulate and tax the shit out of us.

I even read that they developed a process to create synthetic coal out of carbon removed from the atmosphere. No, it won't violate the laws of thermodynamics, but it would help us recoup some of the losses involved with these machines.

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Let's imagine for a second that the mainstream AGW theory is correct, and we have to remove a lot of CO2 out of the atmosphere. IMO building these machines is a lot more efficient than enabling government to regulate and tax the shit out of us.

I even read that they developed a process to create synthetic coal out of carbon removed from the atmosphere. No, it won't violate the laws of thermodynamics, but it would help us recoup some of the losses involved with these machines.

Perhaps, but would this particular machine even be capable of fulfilling such a role?  Based on the claimed amount this one can remove per year, the numbers needed to accomplish that stated hypothetical goal would probably be practically impossible, or else create so much of their own additional costs as to leave everything worse off rather than better off.

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Perhaps, but would this particular machine even be capable of fulfilling such a role?  Based on the claimed amount this one can remove per year, the numbers needed to accomplish that stated hypothetical goal would probably be practically impossible, or else create so much of their own additional costs as to leave everything worse off rather than better off.

Lots of prehistoric data that during heightened Volcanic activity estimated CO2 was much more than today. So much of their claims have been disputed and proven wrong, but you will never get career Mets or Climatologist to push the issue, because they need their jobs. 

We need to never forget that the Enviro-whacko faction's function is nothing more than a long term plan for wealth redistribution. Having a stupid little wench like Greta as a spokeskid, gives you an idea of this movement's credibility.
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