Two Unexpected Signs Of A Coming Conservative Ascendency

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Two Unexpected Signs Of A Coming Conservative Ascendency
I & I Editorial Board
September 8, 2021

The ever-more-radical left may rule in Washington, Hollywood, the media, academe, and the arts, but when an architecture of ideas is built on a San Andreas Fault of error and defiance of human nature, the inevitable failures register high on the Richter Scale.

Botching a war is one thing, but President Joe Biden turned the ending of a war into an unmitigated disaster. That’s the massively experienced-in-foreign-policy Joe Biden, first elected way back during Richard Nixon’s first term to the U.S. Senate, where he would remain for 36 years, two-time chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and ranking Democrat on it beginning in 1997, then placed in charge of Iraq policy as vice president.

Meanwhile, on the home front, Washington’s COVID-19 overreach seems to seek the permanent curtailment of personal liberties, unprecedented government spending has brought what looks to be long-term inflation unseen since Jimmy Carter, and the federal government has declared all-out war on the majority of Americans who reject the racial and sexual division Democrats are peddling.

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[Absalom]

The coming Conservative Ascendancy is a fantasy of the delusional. Yet why???
Because these self-labeled "conservatives" never get past the material, as they
endlessly yap about the goodness of capitalism and the badness of socialism
to the exclusion of the Principles & Precepts which are the essence of Conservatism.
Their idea horizon begins and ends w/the economics of Hume, Ricardo & Smith. 

[EdinVA]

It will depend upon voters that evaluate every candidate thru a purity test and consistently refuse to vote for an imperfect candidate.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Both sides have weak benches.

The GOP has many high-profile social conservative idealogues that don't care if they appeal to independent or democratic voters.

The Dems have many high-profile elitist limousine liberal socialist-wannabes that compulsively think of new ways to spend other people's money.

The turds clogging the toilets are the national RNC and DNC establishments that have spent the last 20 years purging their parties of moderates and independent thinkers.

American national politics is no longer a free market of ideas, but a dualopoly of entrenched self-interest.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Where does standardized voter fraud fit into this coming "ascendency"?

[Fishrrman]

RinVa wonders:
"Where does standardized voter fraud fit into this coming "ascendency"?"

As... the spoiler.

[HoustonSam]

The coming Conservative Ascendancy is a fantasy of the delusional. Yet why???
Because these self-labeled "conservatives" never get past the material, as they
endlessly yap about the goodness of capitalism and the badness of socialism
to the exclusion of the Principles & Precepts which are the essence of Conservatism.
Their idea horizon begins and ends w/the economics of Hume, Ricardo & Smith.

I agree @Absalom.  A conservatism that is only material is no Conservatism, just as I have argued on this board in the past that a conservatism that is only political is no Conservatism.  Fundamentally Conservatism is about ordered liberty built on respect for God and acknowledgement of man's weaknesses.

And the reality is, in my opinion, the American people are not conservative, they just like some of the outcomes of conservative policies, so American "conservatives" have tried to sequentially trim back and pare off the parts that are less popular.  For the most part American "conservatives" are just trying to "conserve" what liberals accomplished 25 years ago.

There might be a recoil from the latest absurdities of progressive orthodoxy, but I doubt there will be any conservative "resurgence." 

[roamer_1]

The coming Conservative Ascendancy is a fantasy of the delusional. Yet why???
Because these self-labeled "conservatives" never get past the material, as they
endlessly yap about the goodness of capitalism and the badness of socialism
to the exclusion of the Principles & Precepts which are the essence of Conservatism.
Their idea horizon begins and ends w/the economics of Hume, Ricardo & Smith.

I agree @Absalom.  A conservatism that is only material is no Conservatism, just as I have argued on this board in the past that a conservatism that is only political is no Conservatism.  Fundamentally Conservatism is about ordered liberty built on respect for God and acknowledgement of man's weaknesses.

And the reality is, in my opinion, the American people are not conservative, they just like some of the outcomes of conservative policies, so American "conservatives" have tried to sequentially trim back and pare off the parts that are less popular.  For the most part American "conservatives" are just trying to "conserve" what liberals accomplished 25 years ago.

There might be a recoil from the latest absurdities of progressive orthodoxy, but I doubt there will be any conservative "resurgence." 

QFT.

Liberty has responsibilities.
Freedom has consequences.

[berdie]

I agree @Absalom.  A conservatism that is only material is no Conservatism, just as I have argued on this board in the past that a conservatism that is only political is no Conservatism.  Fundamentally Conservatism is about ordered liberty built on respect for God and acknowledgement of man's weaknesses.

And the reality is, in my opinion, the American people are not conservative, they just like some of the outcomes of conservative policies, so American "conservatives" have tried to sequentially trim back and pare off the parts that are less popular.  For the most part American "conservatives" are just trying to "conserve" what liberals accomplished 25 years ago.

There might be a recoil from the latest absurdities of progressive orthodoxy, but I doubt there will be any conservative "resurgence."

This  post resononates with me. Especially the part about conservatives conserving what liberals accomplished 25 years ago.

I don't see a resurgence because our young people will not support such a thing.

[HoustonSam]

This  post resononates with me. Especially the part about conservatives conserving what liberals accomplished 25 years ago.

I don't see a resurgence because our young people will not support such a thing.

I agree with that, but my opinion is that our old people will not support it either.

[roamer_1]

I don't see a resurgence because our young people will not support such a thing.

Hard to say that when it ain't being offered. Anywhere.

[berdie]

I agree with that, but my opinion is that our old people will not support it either.

True, but our old people will die out (myself included) and won't vote any more. The young'uns will.

[skeeter]

I agree with that, but my opinion is that our old people will not support it either.

We can sit around bitching about the lack of conservative candidates 'till the cows come home, but the fact is conservatism in the classic sense is no longer what a majority in this nation want.

[berdie]

Hard to say that when it ain't being offered. Anywhere.

I agree, but even if it were....I don't see a lot of young followers.

[libertybele]

We can sit around bitching about the lack of conservative candidates 'till the cows come home, but the fact is conservatism is no longer what a majority in this nation want.

To an extent I agree. However the 'conservative' party which is supposed to be the GOP no longer offers an alternative to liberalism, they've cheapened the brand so to speak and in order to get votes has veered further to the left.  So, basically what we now have are moderates (at best), liberals or people to the left of moderates and socialists and marxists.

[HoustonSam]

We can sit around bitching about the lack of conservative candidates 'till the cows come home, but the fact is conservatism is no longer what a majority in this nation want.

Yep @skeeter that is my thinking as well.  I'm not happy about it, but I think it's the truth.

[skeeter]

Yep @skeeter that is my thinking as well.  I'm not happy about it, but I think it's the truth.

Its a factor of millions of imports from socialist nations, amounting to 15% of the population, combined with decades of output from the public education system. Bound to happen.

This may change in the future, but I'm afraid it's gonna take some sort of national trauma.

[skeeter]

To an extent I agree. However the 'conservative' party which is supposed to be the GOP no longer offers an alternative to liberalism, they've cheapened the brand so to speak and in order to get votes has veered further to the left.  So, basically what we now have are moderates (at best), liberals or people to the left of moderates and socialists and marxists.

They aren't interested in leading - they are responding.

Unfortunately for them they'll never be able to pander on par with the rats - still too many of us. Which is why they hate conservatives so much.

[roamer_1]

I agree, but even if it were....I don't see a lot of young followers.

The young don't mostly matter... It is true that if they are raised up right they will have a better time of it... But one way or the other, reality will come along sooner or later and slap em upside the head with a 2x4... Most folks over 30 know how hard it is, knows there is no free lunch, and knows that the checkbook needs to be balanced come hell or high water.

Offer them that with a loud and sustained voice and they will ALL come a runnin. Happens every time it's tried.

[roamer_1]

We can sit around bitching about the lack of conservative candidates 'till the cows come home, but the fact is conservatism in the classic sense is no longer what a majority in this nation want.

How would you know if it has not been an option for decades?

[roamer_1]

To an extent I agree. However the 'conservative' party which is supposed to be the GOP no longer offers an alternative to liberalism, they've cheapened the brand so to speak and in order to get votes has veered further to the left.  So, basically what we now have are moderates (at best), liberals or people to the left of moderates and socialists and marxists.

That's right.

Take Tumpy's bid... It wasn't Conservatism, but it was made to look like Conservatism, and look at who came running. TEA Party - Same thing.

The problem is that it is not sustained. The Party prefers mere lip service, and thus no true Conservatism can rise and remain.

[libertybele]

That's right.

Take Tumpy's bid... It wasn't Conservatism, but it was made to look like Conservatism, and look at who came running. TEA Party - Same thing.

The problem is that it is not sustained. The Party prefers mere lip service, and thus no true Conservatism can rise and remain.

I believe 75,000,000 voted for a more conservative gov't ... perhaps not all true conservatives but certainly not liberals ... they best find a way to stand united OR we lose our Republic, pure and simple!!

[skeeter]

How would you know if it has not been an option for decades?

My basic understanding of human nature, my pedestrian understanding of popular culture, my eyes & ears.

[roamer_1]

I believe 75,000,000 voted for a more conservative gov't ... perhaps not all true conservatives but certainly not liberals ... they best find a way to stand united OR we lose our Republic, pure and simple!!

That's right. And that unity will be found in Principled Conservatism - The only Conservatism there is.

[roamer_1]

My basic understanding of human nature, my pedestrian understanding of popular culture, my eyes & ears.

I don't think that's right...mostly because popular culture is a construct played toward youth and has naught to do with reality. The working end of the thing is 30 and up.  And most folks are out of the party scene by then and popular culture does not represent them. Thus a poor bellwether.