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2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« on: August 25, 2021, 01:02:12 am »
2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
By LOLITA C. BALDOR 20 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two members of Congress flew unannounced into Kabul airport in the middle of the ongoing chaotic evacuation Tuesday, stunning State Department and U.S. military personnel who had to divert resources to provide security and information to the lawmakers, U.S. officials said.

Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., and Rep. Peter Meijer, R-Mich., flew in and out on charter aircraft and were on the ground at the Kabul airport for several hours. That led officials to complain that they could be taking seats that would have otherwise gone to other Americans or Afghans fleeing the country, but the congressmen said in a joint statement that they made sure to leave on a flight with empty seats.

“As Members of Congress, we have a duty to provide oversight on the executive branch,’” the two said in their statement. “We conducted this visit in secret, speaking about it only after our departure, to minimize the risk and disruption to the people on the ground, and because we were there to gather information, not to grandstand.”

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2021, 11:26:49 am »
NAVY Times By Lolita Baldor 8/24/2021

Two members of Congress flew unannounced into Kabul airport in the middle of the ongoing chaotic evacuation Tuesday, stunning State Department and U.S. military personnel who had to divert resources to provide security and information to the lawmakers, U.S. officials said.

Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., and Rep. Peter Meijer, R-Mich., flew in and out on charter aircraft and were on the ground at the Kabul airport for several hours. That led officials to complain that they could be taking seats that would have otherwise gone to other Americans or Afghans fleeing the country, but the congressmen said in a joint statement that they made sure to leave on a flight with empty seats.

“As Members of Congress, we have a duty to provide oversight on the executive branch,’” the two said in their statement. “We conducted this visit in secret, speaking about it only after our departure, to minimize the risk and disruption to the people on the ground, and because we were there to gather information, not to grandstand.”

The two lawmakers are both military veterans, with backgrounds in the region. Moulton, a Marine who has been outspoken critic of the Iraq War, served multiple tours in Iraq. Meijer was deployed as part of the Army Reserves and later worked in Afghanistan at a nongovernmental organization providing aid. Both serve on the House Armed Services Committee.

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2021, 12:26:08 pm »
‘Moronic,’ ‘Selfish’ — Reps. Moulton and Meijer’s Surprise Afghanistan Trip Sparks Controversy

Paul Bois 25 Aug 2021

U.S. Representatives Seth Moulton (D-MA) and Peter Meijer (R-MI) stoked a fire of controversy Tuesday after their surprise visit to Kabul, Afghanistan, exposed some basic truths about the Biden administration’s withdrawal of troops from the region.

“After talking with commanders on the ground and seeing the situation here, it is obvious that because we started the evacuation so late, that no matter what we do, we won’t get everyone out on time, even by September 11,” the two congressmen said in their joint statement.

Shortly after news broke of their visit,  Democrats, media figures, and other U.S. officials immediately scolded the pair, denouncing them as selfish grandstanders who potentially robbed an American or Afghan refugee of a flight home.

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2021, 12:29:29 pm »
The adminsitration has done nothing but botch this thing on a historic level, and then sat on their hands.

Seems there are two reps who at least want to "DO SOMETHING" to address the problem.

In this case,  I'll take moronic and selfish over inept and feckless any day
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2021, 12:29:48 pm »
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...stunning State Department and U.S. military personnel who had to divert resources to provide security and information to the lawmakers, U.S. officials said.
Well, maybe if the administration was more transparent, as they promised, then congress would not have to go find information....

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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2021, 12:34:18 pm »
Well, maybe if the administration was more transparent, as they promised, then congress would not have to go find information....

Exactly.  This is the same outfit that had our general scold a UK General for rescuing Americans because it was making them "look bad".

The Biden house of cards has taken to strategy to downplay and keep quiet one of the biggest fiascos in U.S. history.  I really don't see a scenario where they can successfully pull that off. Even with MSM complicity.
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2021, 02:28:27 pm »
Seth Moulton’s Secret Visit To Afghanistan Slammed As ‘Irresponsible’ By US Officials
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August 25, 2021 at 10:08 am
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...    “It’s selfish, irresponsible, and dangerous for our brave women and men on the ground. They will be occupying seats on their return to the U.S. that should be going to those in need,” a U.S. official told CBS News.

A senior administration official also tells CBS News, “Whether intended or not, this is nothing but a distraction at a moment when time is key and every seat on planes leaves should be for someone trying to get out of Afghanistan.”

“As Members of Congress, we have a duty to provide oversight on the executive branch,’” the two Congressmen said in their statement. “We conducted this visit in secret, speaking about it only after our departure, to minimize the risk and disruption to the people on the ground, and because we were there to gather information, not to grandstand.”   ...
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2021, 02:40:54 pm »
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2021, 02:48:38 pm »
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The BS from the White Hut smells the same....
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2021, 02:50:07 pm »
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They will be occupying seats on their return to the U.S. that should be going to those in need,” a U.S. official told CBS News.
We'll be leaving a few thousand Americans stranded in Afghanistan, but really, really could have used those two seats.
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2021, 02:51:41 pm »
Well, maybe if the administration was more transparent, as they promised, then congress would not have to go find information....
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2021, 02:52:34 pm »
We'll be leaving a few thousand Americans stranded in Afghanistan, but really, really could have used those two seats.

Except that, according to the congressmen involved, they intentionally took a flight that was leaving with empty seats, so they didn't bump anyone off that flight:

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but the congressmen said in a joint statement that they made sure to leave on a flight with empty seats.

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2021, 04:17:22 pm »
I wonder if these guys did it for future campaign ads. I know Meijer is an anti-Trump fool. I don't know about the other Pub.
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2021, 07:02:25 pm »
I'm shocked, I would have bet that it would have been two of the Bitch squad going over to cheer on the Taliwhackers.

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2021, 08:02:30 pm »
Nancy Pelosi Scolds House Members for Inspecting Disastrous Afghanistan Extraction

Jacob Bliss 25 Aug 2021

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) scolded the two congressmen who traveled to Afghanistan to inspect the disastrous withdrawal, saying the region is not safe after praising Biden for his handling of the war in Afghanistan.

Pelosi told reporters Wednesday morning she has yet to speak to the two members, Reps. Seth Moulton (D-MA) and Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI), since the pair returned from Afghanistan. However, she mentioned “they have to make their own case as to why they went” since making a trip such as the one they did is “deadly serious.”

The Hill noted that Pelosi learned of the trip before it was made public but said it “would not have been safe for them” if something was made public before they were airborne.

“So this is deadly serious. We do not want members to go,” Pelosi said. “The point is that we didn’t want anybody to think this was a good idea and they should try to follow suit.”

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2021, 08:04:29 pm »
STFU Pelosi.

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2021, 08:42:19 pm »
STFU Pelosi.
Like she gives a rat's rear end what's happening in Afghanistan.
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2021, 09:07:50 pm »
Well, since the Congressmen were a Rat and a RINO, this is as bad as the discipline gets.
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2021, 10:25:51 pm »
From reply 2:
"...who potentially robbed an American or Afghan refugee of a flight home."

NO Afghan "refugee" -- NOT ONE -- who comes here is on "a flight home".

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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2021, 07:04:04 pm »
 'The scoldings mean nothing': Bipartisan lawmakers are not sorry for making secret Afghanistan trip
Chris Pandolfo
August 26, 2021

The two congressmen who made a secret, unauthorized trip to Afghanistan to survey the U.S. military's evacuation efforts are unapologetic for their decision, despite criticism from the Biden administration, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and several of their colleagues in Congress.

"I don't care one bit about anonymous quotes from Washington when I'm saving the lives of our allies," Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) told the Boston Globe in an interview Tuesday, responding to his critics.

Speaking to the newspaper from Doha, Qatar, where Afghan refugees are being transported to a U.S. airbase for processing, Moulton said that he decided to go to Kabul in person a week ago after trying to assist in the evacuation of four Afghan families via text messages and phone calls. Only one of the families was able to flee the country.

He had previously sought official permission to visit Afghanistan several times in recent months, but was denied by the Biden administration. So, Moulton, a Marine veteran, and Rep. Peter Meijer (R-Mich.), an Army veteran, decided to go on their own and see for themselves what was happening on the ground.  ... The Blaze
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2021, 08:29:36 pm »
From reply 2:
"...who potentially robbed an American or Afghan refugee of a flight home."

NO Afghan "refugee" -- NOT ONE -- who comes here is on "a flight home".
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Re: 2 Congress members fly to Kabul amid choatic evacuation
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2021, 11:53:25 pm »

The administration has not been transparent? Nearly everything they have done was done in lies, double speak, and deceptions, with the alliance with the Taliban. Very little of it hasn't been clear as day to me!  Deniers struggle with confusion,believing the lies the democrats tell.
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