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As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« on: August 14, 2021, 04:09:53 pm »
As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out

A Taliban offensive is encircling the Afghan capital and there’s increasingly only one way out for those fleeing the war, and only one way in for U.S. troops sent to protect American diplomats still on the ground: Kabul’s international airport

By TAMEEM AKHGAR and JON GAMBRELL Associated Press
August 14, 2021, 10:14 AM

KABUL, Afghanistan -- As a Taliban offensive encircles the Afghan capital, there's increasingly only one way out for those fleeing the war, and only one way in for U.S. troops sent to protect American diplomats still on the ground: Kabul's international airport.

A steady stream of people makes its way first to ticket sale counters set up on the parking lot outside the terminal. They push their luggage, load carts with carpets, television sets and mementos, stuff clothes inside purses to make their weight limit as they slowly inch forward.

The lucky ones, those who managed to get a ticket for a flight out to anywhere, then wait more than three hours to make it inside the terminal, bidding tearful goodbyes to loved ones they are leaving behind.

As the Taliban draw closer, the lines and the panic only grow.


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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 04:30:44 pm »
This could end up making Saigon look like amateur night at the jr. high thespian club.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2021, 08:04:29 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2021, 05:13:44 pm

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1426569767742234627

It has only been a failed experiment for 12½ years.  Before that, it exceeded everyone's expectations.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2021, 08:43:35 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 14, 2021, 08:04:29 pm
It has only been a failed experiment for 12½ years.  Before that, it exceeded everyone's expectations.

I understand the notion that Afghanistan is all on GWB, but I don't think it's a fair rap even though he broke his promise about "nation building."  Casualties were low when he was running the show, but when O'Bastard took over the project he proved how deadly that can be, as combat deaths shot through the roof.  There was a fatal policy mistake in the 20 years, but it wasn't Bush who made the one leading to this panicked escape.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 08:59:23 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 14, 2021, 08:43:35 pm
I understand the notion that Afghanistan is all on GWB, but I don't think it's a fair rap even though he broke his promise about "nation building."  Casualties were low when he was running the show, but when O'Bastard took over the project he proved how deadly that can be, as combat deaths shot through the roof.  There was a fatal policy mistake in the 20 years, but it wasn't Bush who made the one leading to this panicked escape.

That's my point.  2009 is when everything changed.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 10:06:32 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 14, 2021, 08:59:23 pm
That's my point.  2009 is when everything changed.

Yup!  the "12 1/2 years" you mentioned...

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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2021, 12:19:52 pm »
Looks like there are going to be some delays at Hamid Karzai Intl. today:


https://twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1426855088333770752

Kabul skyline live video with audio (of choppers mainly):


https://youtu.be/4NiVVsx-OgY
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2021, 01:06:36 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on August 14, 2021, 04:30:44 pm
This could end up making Saigon look like amateur night at the jr. high thespian club.

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Almost certainly worse. Saigon was over ran by Communists,who at least PRETENDED to be civilized.

Muslims don't even pretend. In FACT,they REVEL is being barbarians.

It really is a crying damn shame that after the Korean War and the VN War,the US is STILL trying to fight to a stalemate and compromise government.

I and many,MANY others have been saying over and over for decades that "We must NEVER get involved in fighting any wars we don't intend to win by DEFEATIN THE ENEMY MILITARILY,AND THEN HANGING THE ENEMY LEADERSHIP!"

NO MORE NEGOIATED TRUCES! The enemy rightly sees them as opportunies to recover and rearm. We either fight to win,or we don't fight.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2021, 01:11:01 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2021, 05:13:44 pm

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1426569767742234627

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Well,IIRC,it wasn't even that. We went into the Muddle East to make Boy Jorge look manly due to an upcoming election and his feminine side having been on public display too long.

And of course,once we were invovled there,no President since has been able to figure out a way to pull out without looking like a loser and gutless punk.

We now have Biden,who doesn't have a freaking clue about how to do anything,stumbling into doing the right thing by pure accident. This will probably be the only time you ever see me making a semi-favorable comment about Slow Joe. Hell,he doesn't even know where a map is or what it does,never mind understand military strategy.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2021, 02:16:27 pm »
All of this could have been avoided by leaving 2,500 troops in Afghanistan.
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Re: As Taliban tighten their grip, Kabul airport only way out
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2021, 02:33:01 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 15, 2021, 02:16:27 pm
All of this could have been avoided by leaving 2,500 troops in Afghanistan.

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Say WHAT??????

What would these troops be doing,protecting the embassy?

There is only TWO ways this could be avoided.

1: Not putting troops there to start with.

2:Not playing kissy face with the enemy. Not only send in combat troops on search and destroy missions,also send agents into foreign countries where the Princes live or play,and killing them and their supporters wherever we find them,REGARDLESS of who they are or whose toes we step on.

If you are going to go to war,GO TO WAR!
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