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rangerrebew · « **on:** July 22, 2021, 09:42:24 am »

Gen. Milley Told Trump He'd Be 'Held Criminally Negligible' If He Didn't Assassinate Soleimani
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jul. 18, 2021

President Donald Trump assassinated top Iranian General Qasem Soleimani after reportedly being threatened by General Mark Milley and a group of Israel First GOP Senators who could have had him impeached.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley reportedly pressured Trump to sign off on the assassination by telling him "you will be held criminally negligible for the rest of your life if you don't do this," according to the new book "I Alone Can Fix It" by Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig.

Michael Bender's new book, "Frankly, We Did Win This Election" backed up previous reporting that Trump carried out the hit to appease Israel First warhawks in the GOP who were threatening to have him impeached.

Excerpts via Nonilex on Twitter:

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62383

rangerrebew · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2021, 09:43:49 am »

But when Bile Clinton declined to take out bin Laden, it was good leadership?

The_Reader_David · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2021, 12:29:48 pm »

I'm not sure I'd trust news from sources that don't know the difference between negligible and negligent.

Kamaji · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2021, 12:32:13 pm »

Well, to be fair, President Trump's administration was criminally negligible, particularly as compared to the current (mal)administration which is rife with criminals.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2021, 12:48:34 pm »

Quote from: The_Reader_David on July 22, 2021, 12:29:48 pm

I'm not sure I'd trust news from sources that don't know the difference between negligible and negligent.

That proves his point. If he had used correct English, it would have proven he was thinking in civilian terms. The incorrect English proves he was thinking like a flag officer.

sneakypete · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2021, 02:19:16 pm »

THIS is what passes for leadership in 21st Century Isr......uhhhh,America.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2021, 06:47:19 pm »

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Held Criminally Negligible

The English language is weird enough on it's own, but this looks like the article writer is not a native speaker of English.

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... a group of Israel First GOP Senators who could have had him impeached.

That's not how impeachment works. Another clue this writer is not native to the US and doesn't in the least understand US government.

I was going to accuse Milley of giving Trump good advice concerning taking out Soleimani, but this article is horse manure and Milley is innocent of the accusation of giving Trump good advice.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2021, 08:41:54 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on July 22, 2021, 06:47:19 pm

Milley is innocent of the accusation of giving Trump good advice.

I absolutely love the way you worded that!

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2021, 08:59:33 pm »

Quote from: rangerrebew on July 22, 2021, 12:48:34 pm

That proves his point. If he had used correct English, it would have proven he was thinking in civilian terms. The incorrect English proves he was thinking like a flag officer.

American's are not writing these pieces. FOREIGNER'S ARE. The name does not matter.

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2021, 09:01:55 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on July 22, 2021, 06:47:19 pm

The English language is weird enough on it's own, but this looks like the article writer is not a native speaker of English.

That's not how impeachment works. Another clue this writer is not native to the US and doesn't in the least understand US government.

I was going to accuse Milley of giving Trump good advice concerning taking out Soleimani, but this article is horse manure and Milley is innocent of the accusation of giving Trump good advice.

I just saw this. I AGREE. I already said....FOREIGNER WROTE THIS.

sneakypete · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2021, 10:58:49 pm »

Quote from: LegalAmerican on July 22, 2021, 08:59:33 pm

American's are not writing these pieces. FOREIGNER'S ARE. The name does not matter.

@LegalAmerican

It is a proven fact that flag officers are not required to think.They just give orders that everybody else has to follow.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2021, 10:51:02 am »

@sneakypete

The carrier on which I served got caught in port during a typhoon in the Philippines because our flag didn't believe us (the weather office) that climatology indicated the typhoon would come into Subic Bay and regenerate. So we spent two days with two ocean going tugs pulling us away from the peer on one side as we shielded a mine sweeper on the other. Getting caught in port in a typhoon doesn't look all that good on an admiral's record. The dent in the side of the ship where we kept slamming into the peer wasn't all that big but I believe it was big enough to end the flag's career.

sneakypete · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2021, 04:31:17 pm »

Quote from: rangerrebew on July 23, 2021, 10:51:02 am

@sneakypete

The carrier on which I served got caught in port during a typhoon in the Philippines because our flag didn't believe us (the weather office) that climatology indicated the typhoon would come into Subic Bay and regenerate. So we spent two days with two ocean going tugs pulling us away from the peer on one side as we shielded a mine sweeper on the other. Getting caught in port in a typhoon doesn't look all that good on an admiral's record. The dent in the side of the ship where we kept slamming into the peer wasn't all that big but I believe it was big enough to end the flag's career.

@rangerrebew

YIKES! It takes a LICK to dent the steel in the side of a aircraft carrier!

How much damage did it do to the pier?

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2021, 08:00:10 pm »

So we are expected to believe partisan anti-Trump books now? This one has the credibility of Mary Trump's "bombshell book" and Comey's self-serving memoir.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2021, 10:41:18 am »

Quote from: sneakypete on July 23, 2021, 04:31:17 pm

How much damage did it do to the pier?

I really don't know for sure. It wasn't something I needed to know about so I didn't ask.

sneakypete · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2021, 02:55:38 pm »

Quote from: rangerrebew on July 24, 2021, 10:41:18 am

I really don't know for sure. It wasn't something I needed to know about so I didn't ask.

@rangerrebew

I was never a swabbie,but I am guessing a carrier hull is substantially tougher than a pier,so it must have been something special.

No wonder that officer got the boot. Damaging your own ship is bad enough,but damaging a pier would be inexcuseable because it would prevent other naval ships from tying up there.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2021, 03:29:38 pm »

@sneakypete

We gave our forecast that the typhoon was going to regenerate in port 3 days before it hit;

plenty of time to get out to sea. Actually, carriers doing damage to piers is not all that uncommon in my experience. One time in Alameda we were getting underway, or suppose to. There was a very strong west wind and two tugs weren't enough to get us clear of the pier. So we banged it a few times before someone, probably an E-1, suggested tying us back at the pier to be used as a wind screen for the Enterprise which was coming in later, then use her tugs to get underway. It worked like a charm. But there was some damage to the pier. How much, I never found out. Maybe the Navy has fixed the problem in the last 45-50 years, but I doubt it.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2021, 03:46:11 pm »

Quote from: rangerrebew on July 24, 2021, 03:29:38 pm

@sneakypete

We gave our forecast that the typhoon was going to regenerate in port 3 days before it hit; plenty of time to get out to sea. Actually, carriers doing damage to piers is not all that uncommon in my experience. One time in Alameda we were getting underway, or suppose to. There was a very strong west wind and two tugs weren't enough to get us clear of the pier. So we banged it a few times before someone, probably an E-1, suggested tying us back at the pier to be used as a wind screen for the Enterprise which was coming in later, then use her tugs to get underway. It worked like a charm. But there was some damage to the pier. How much, I never found out. Maybe the Navy has fixed the problem in the last 45-50 years, but I doubt it.

Pearl Harbor taught us the most dangerous place for a large vessel is being tied to a pier or key.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2021, 03:52:17 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 24, 2021, 03:46:11 pm

Pearl Harbor taught us the most dangerous place for a large vessel is being tied to a pier or key.

I'm sure at the flag level they were taught such problems are for battle ships, not carriers.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2021, 04:05:56 pm »

Quote from: rangerrebew on July 24, 2021, 03:52:17 pm

I'm sure at the flag level they were taught such problems are for battle ships, not carriers.

Flag Officers aren't fighting "the last war," they're fighting 2-3 wars ago. Now their most fearsome opponents are piers and other Navy ships.

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2021, 06:09:12 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 23, 2021, 08:00:10 pm

So we are expected to believe partisan anti-Trump books now? This one has the credibility of Mary Trump's "bombshell book" and Comey's self-serving memoir.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2021, 06:15:13 am »

Quote from: LegalAmerican on July 22, 2021, 09:01:55 pm

I just saw this. I AGREE. I already said....FOREIGNER WROTE THIS.

Maybe they wrote it on their phone with one of those word substituting aps.

I know I have to make sure my phone doesn't sub words for what I want to say or the result will be gibberish.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2021, 06:15:45 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 24, 2021, 04:05:56 pm

Flag Officers aren't fighting "the last war," they're fighting 2-3 wars ago. Now their most fearsome opponents are piers and other Navy ships.

And Chinese freighters...

mountaineer · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2021, 10:48:12 am »

The use of "Israel First GOP Senators" makes me wonder if this isn't one of those blame-everything-on-the-Jooos sites.

sneakypete · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2021, 12:36:42 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 24, 2021, 03:46:11 pm

Pearl Harbor taught us the most dangerous place for a large vessel is being tied to a pier or key.

@Cyber Liberty

Regardless of if it is a civilian or a military ship,large vessels get blown around by big winds,and while tied to a dock they can't put their bows into the wind to avoid it. It is much more dangerous for a big ship to be tied up in port during a big wind than it is for them to be out in deep water.

For an Admiral to ignore this threat borders on being a criminal act,or the act of someone insane.