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 Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War

Those who minimize the Civil War (based on a racialist agenda denying America's arc toward freedom) are trumpeting its significance to magnify election disputes.

By Jonathan S. Tobin
July 19, 2021

It was always a mistake to treat the ravings of a man who once told African Americans that Mitt Romney would “put y’all back in chains” as having credibility on racial issues or history. When then-Vice President Joe Biden uttered that hyperbolic lie during a 2012 campaign speech, that sort of calumny against Republicans seemed to embarrass even partisan Democrats.

Republicans skewered his claim that a GOP stand on financial regulatory policy was the harbinger of the return of slavery. But Democrats mostly shrugged their shoulders and put it down to the crazy uncle role Biden seemed to play in the Obama administration.

Nine years later, the same man (now acclaimed by his corporate media cheerleaders as the avatar of decency and honesty) is still toeing the same line. On Tuesday, he gave a speech about the dispute over new voter integrity laws sponsored by Republicans, and Democrats’ attempt to rewrite voting regulations on a national level.

The result was, if anything, an even crazier version of his “chains” speech. Speaking at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, his assertion that Republican voting laws are “an attempt to suppress and subvert the right to vote,” comparable to “Jim Crow,” was equally hyperbolic. He also went on to say, “We’re facing the most significant test of our democracy since the Civil War. That’s not hyperbole, since the Civil War.”

His frequent use of the word “literally” and his attempts to deny that he is using hyperbole make one wonder if he knows what these words mean, or if the content of the legislation he is denouncing has ever been explained to him.

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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2021, 09:58:12 AM »
Let him rant. The more of it he does,the fewer voters he will have come 2024.

Hell,I am not so sure he would have more than a handful of voters now if it weren't for the illegal alien votes,and the people who make money from providing them with goods and services.
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2021, 07:44:52 PM »
Pete wrote:
"Let him rant. The more of it he does,the fewer voters he will have come 2024"

Ah, Pete, you've overlooked what happened in 2020 completely.

biden won't NEED "voters" in 2024 (just as he didn't need them in 2020).
Instead, he'll need -- and the underground communist election apparatus will manufacture -- VOTES.

There's a difference.

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2021, 07:51:17 PM »
Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War

So we should expect federal troops to invade Georgia and burn Atlanta to the ground?
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2021, 07:53:14 PM »
Let him rant. The more of it he does,the fewer voters he will have come 2024.

Hell,I am not so sure he would have more than a handful of voters now if it weren't for the illegal alien votes,and the people who make money from providing them with goods and services.

Fewer voters?  ONLY IF election and ballot integrity exists; otherwise they are going to seat whomever they want!!!  Ronna and the GOP aren't doing a darn thing.
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2021, 07:53:35 PM »
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2021, 08:08:43 PM »
Pete wrote:
"Let him rant. The more of it he does,the fewer voters he will have come 2024"

Ah, Pete, you've overlooked what happened in 2020 completely.

biden won't NEED "voters" in 2024 (just as he didn't need them in 2020).
Instead, he'll need -- and the underground communist election apparatus will manufacture -- VOTES.

There's a difference.

@Fishrrman

I like to THINK that many,many conservatives have now woken up and quit taking things for granted,and will show up at the polls in enough numbers to even defeat the cheating.
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2021, 08:10:09 PM »
So we should expect federal troops to invade Georgia and burn Atlanta to the ground?

@Hoodat

Sounds like a plan to me!
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2021, 08:34:21 PM »
Joe is the Three Stooges all in one.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2021, 09:21:20 PM »
Joe is the Three Stooges all in one.
I just don't think Joe's that smart, he strikes me more of a Beaky Buzzard type.

But then there is Dementia Angry Joe


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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2021, 09:24:27 PM »
Imagine if Trump said this? This kind of incendiary talk, for a President to make, is foolish.

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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2021, 09:43:43 PM »
Joe is the Three Stooges all in one.
@libertybele

bele, my friend, I am serious when I say this; I am not making fun.  I feel sure Joe Biden does not know what "Voter ID" is.  He has heard it, "Voter ID" all his adult life or earlier, but I doubt he has ever seen a written law that describes one way to check Voter ID and there is more than one way.

How many of you reading this have ever actually seen a written law describing one way to check Voter ID?  There are several Voter ID laws that can be used for regular voting.  There are Voter ID laws that can be used for mail ballots.

Really, have you ever seen a written law used for Voter ID?
If not, you can bring up your state election laws on line, search for "voter ID" and those laws will come up.  Read a law from beginning to the last word because, in law, one word can change the whole meaning of a law.  Then check below the law to be sure there is not a footnote sending you some where else in the law that concerns the law you just read. 

Thanks for coming; this ends Voter ID Class 101.

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2021, 10:22:47 PM »
@libertybele

bele, my friend, I am serious when I say this; I am not making fun.  I feel sure Joe Biden does not know what "Voter ID" is.  He has heard it, "Voter ID" all his adult life or earlier, but I doubt he has ever seen a written law that describes one way to check Voter ID and there is more than one way.

How many of you reading this have ever actually seen a written law describing one way to check Voter ID?  There are several Voter ID laws that can be used for regular voting.  There are Voter ID laws that can be used for mail ballots.

Really, have you ever seen a written law used for Voter ID?
If not, you can bring up your state election laws on line, search for "voter ID" and those laws will come up.  Read a law from beginning to the last word because, in law, one word can change the whole meaning of a law.  Then check below the law to be sure there is not a footnote sending you some where else in the law that concerns the law you just read. 

Thanks for coming; this ends Voter ID Class 101.

@Victoria33 regardless of law, I can only speak from experience; just because there are voter ID laws, does not mean that they are followed, nor does it mean that there aren't questionable practices going on in our precincts.  During the election of George W, I went into  vote in the primary and much to my dismay I noticed a sign that all that was needed to vote was proof of residency. No voter ID card is required; proof of residency was the only requirement; and that proof of residency could be a Sam's Club card! So, no proof of citizenship is/was required.

I contacted my Supervisor of Elections and she confirmed what I had seen was allowed and I was told it was up to the actual precinct as to what was acceptable.  I contacted my friend in a different county who worked for the Supervisor of Elections for that county and he verified it was up to the precinct as long as it followed the "guidelines" of the state of FL.

I don't know whether things have changed since then to register, but not having to provide proof of citizenship (only residency) in order to vote in my books is flawed and very wrong.

I do know that although we have been issued voter ID cards they are NOT required to be shown at the precinct, nor do the poll workers even ask to see that voter ID. They have a list of names of those eligible to vote at the precinct and that eligibility is based on residency (Sam's Club card, utility bill, etc.) Once they see that your name is on the list, they then ask you to sign in and that signature must match the signature given at time that proof of residency was collected. That's it.

IMO here we continue to sit with questionable election integrity.
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2021, 11:05:40 PM »
If Joe runs again in 2024, he will win, unless we end electronic voting.  The systems folks can PRECISELY determine votes cast, and switch votes so that 10, - 15,000 votes above the opponent are there for Biden to swing the difference.  There is NO WAY BIDEN WON in 2020 without MASSIVE voter fraud.  MASSIVE!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2021, 12:17:08 AM »
If Joe runs again in 2024, he will win, unless we end electronic voting.  The systems folks can PRECISELY determine votes cast, and switch votes so that 10, - 15,000 votes above the opponent are there for Biden to swing the difference.  There is NO WAY BIDEN WON in 2020 without MASSIVE voter fraud.  MASSIVE!!!!

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I may be wrong,but I am guessing the poll watchers are going to watching a LOT more closely than before,and not prone to being casual about anything "iffy".

I would volunteer to be a poll watcher around here,but there are still people flying Trump flags everywhere I look. Especially the two families on both sides of the lesbian couple up the road that made the mistake of putting up Biden signs. Their neighbors on both sides are still loaded up with the Trump signs and big flags.
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2021, 12:34:48 AM »
How many of you reading this have ever actually seen a written law describing one way to check Voter ID?  There are several Voter ID laws that can be used for regular voting.  There are Voter ID laws that can be used for mail ballots.

Here is the law that was in effect in Georgia last November and January

Georgia Code § 21-2-385. Procedure for voting by absentee ballot; advance voting

(a) At any time after receiving an official absentee ballot, but before the day of the primary or election, except electors who are confined to a hospital on the day of the primary or election, the elector shall vote his or her absentee ballot, then fold the ballot and enclose and securely seal the same in the envelope on which is printed "Official Absentee Ballot." This envelope shall then be placed in the second one, on which is printed the form of the oath of the elector; the name and oath of the person assisting, if any; and other required identifying information. The elector shall then fill out, subscribe, and swear to the oath printed on such envelope. Such envelope shall then be securely sealed and the elector shall then personally mail or personally deliver same to the board of registrars or absentee ballot clerk, provided that mailing or delivery may be made by the elector's mother, father, grandparent, aunt, uncle, brother, sister, spouse, son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandchild, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, mother-in-law, father-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, or an individual residing in the household of such elector.  .   .  .[/quote]

The law explicitly states that the absentee ballot must be folded.  Yet county election boards allowed thousands of unfolded, uncreased ballots to be included in vote totals - ballots that should have been disqualified.

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If the elector registered to vote for the first time in this state by mail and has not previously provided the identification required by Code Section 21-2-220 and votes for the first time by absentee ballot and fails to provide the identification required by Code Section 21-2-220 with such absentee ballot, such absentee ballot shall be treated as a provisional ballot and shall be counted only if the registrars are able to verify the identification and registration of the elector during the time provided pursuant to Code Section 21-2-419.

Georgia had tens of thousands of first time voters who registered by mail without showing a photo ID.  By law, these ballots should have been separated out as provisional and not counted in the vote tally unless the proper legal identification of the voter is presented to election registrars.  Yet this law was ignored.  These ballots were counted without proper ID confirmation.


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(c) When an elector applies in person for an absentee ballot, after the absentee ballots have been printed, the absentee ballot may be issued to the elector at the time of the application therefor within the confines of the registrar's or absentee ballot clerk's office if such application is made during the advance voting period as provided in subsection (d) of this Code section or may be mailed to the elector, depending upon the elector's request. If the ballot is issued to the elector at the time of application, the elector shall then and there within the confines of the registrar's or absentee ballot clerk's office vote and return the absentee ballot as provided in subsections (a) and (b) of this Code section. In the case of persons voting in accordance with subsection (d) of this Code section, the board of registrars or absentee ballot clerk shall furnish accommodations to the elector to ensure the privacy of the elector while voting his or her absentee ballot.

The law explicitly states that absentee ballots are mailed out only at the request of the voter.  Yet the State violated that law when they mailed out absentee ballots to every address on the voter registration rolls totally unsolicited.
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Re: Joe Biden: Requiring Voter ID Is Bringing Back The Civil War
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2021, 07:52:31 PM »
Pete wrote:
"I may be wrong,but I am guessing the poll watchers are going to watching a LOT more closely"

Poll watchers don't count as much as they used to, since the demo-communist "underground election apparatus" has been perfected and (as the 2020 election proved) has been run up to full steam.

How can poll watchers keep apprised of below-the-surface computerized election machine tallies and subsequent manipulation of same?

Or the mass-manufacturing "off-site" of ballots, be they absentee, "mail-in", or otherwise?

Part of the rationale behind "the apparatus" is to render the concept and execution of "poll-watching" irrelevant.