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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2021, 01:57:32 am »
And, short of a truly anonymous poll, you won't. Let the pigeons poop on their Escalades.

In the current environment of tearing down statues on public property by roving gangs of "mostly peaceful protesters", and in the climate of doxxing and threatening (if not terrorizing more directly) people who speak out against the narrative of "systemic racism", how many are going to come forward in protest?

If the people in those communities continue to elect race-obsessed "woke" progressives to local office, then clearly removal of Confederate statues is their will, just like defunding the police is their will and refusing to prosecute BLM rioters is their will.  And if we don't find local election results credible because we prefer to believe that Dominion is hijacking local elections as well as presidential elections, then the people in those communities will have to take a stand on election law and on basic law and order and on statues.  Or perhaps the people in those local communities will simply have to march in the streets to make themselves heard about these statues and other issues.  I don't see any of that happening in Charlottesville, or Richmond, or Memphis.

I'm not defending these cities or their people.  I want nothing to do with them.  In no sense do I consider them fellow citizens with me in anything and for all I care all these cities can burn completely to the ground.  But I'm not going to pretend that some silent majority there agrees with me just because I wish they did.  We can theorize all kinds of reasons to believe that the majority *must* actually agree with us.  But with no evidence it's just wishful thinking.

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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2021, 02:00:05 am »
If the people in those communities continue to elect race-obsessed "woke" progressives to local office, then clearly removal of Confederate statues is their will, just like defunding the police is their will and refusing to prosecute BLM rioters is their will.  And if we don't find local election results credible because we prefer to believe that Dominion is hijacking local elections as well as presidential elections, then the people in those communities will have to take a stand on election law and on basic law and order and on statues.  Or perhaps the people in those local communities will simply have to march in the streets to make themselves heard about these statues and other issues.  I don't see any of that happening in Charlottesville, or Richmond, or Memphis.

I'm not defending these cities or their people.  I want nothing to do with them.  In no sense do I consider them fellow citizens with me in anything and for all I care all these cities can burn completely to the ground.  But I'm not going to pretend that some silent majority there agrees with me just because I wish they did.  We can theorize all kinds of reasons to believe that the majority *must* actually agree with us.  But with no evidence it's just wishful thinking.

The people in these communities are getting what they want and they are the ones paying the taxes.
They don't even have to elect "woke" officials, the officials only have to be afraid of being treated like a Hatian President, or their historic town (Home of The University of Virginia) being treated like Lake Street in Minneapolis.

In no way does that imply anyone in the community, specifically, is getting what they want or voted for. It's just a reality of this era of Thug politics.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2021, 11:54:57 am »
They've also removed a statue of Lewis and Clark with Sacajawea. Two explorers and a native American. It's not about the Civil War, folks.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2021, 01:43:46 pm »
They've also removed a statue of Lewis and Clark with Sacajawea. Two explorers and a native American. It's not about the Civil War, folks.
Send it to North Dakota. Considering the Louisiana Purchase was made during the Jefferson Administration, and that Voyage of Discovery began then also, and folks here still understand what a tracker is and how important that is, I think we could find a place for it.

But really, this cancel culture shit needs to stop.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2021, 01:51:24 pm »
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As the idiots toppled this statue of three great explorers yesterday, they completely misunderstood Sacagawea’s posture. She was a tracker and guide. Lewis and Clark could not have achieved what they did without her extraordinary skills. Libs missed this part of American history.

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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2021, 01:59:27 pm »
Keep in mind these are the same folks (philosophically) who toppled a statue of Frederich Douglass, too.

Maybe if they'd paid more attention in school they wouldn't have to work as paid agitators (Thugs!).
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2021, 02:33:34 pm »
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In the current environment of tearing down statues on public property by roving gangs of "mostly peaceful protesters", and in the climate of doxxing and threatening (if not terrorizing more directly) people who speak out against the narrative of "systemic racism", how many are going to come forward in protest? Keep in mind that when people did protest the removal of statues in Charlottesville, they were herded into conflict with opposing protesters, painted as dangerous radicals in the mass media, and practically all accused of being white supremacists. That was then, and the climate for those who go against the well protected radicals who are behind tearing down monuments and burning, looting, and even  murder, has only become more hostile.


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Well said,but lets not forget the danger of people losing jobs for speaking out. This is the most immediate and most "real" danger to speaking your mind these days.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2021, 02:36:48 pm »
I have changed jobs more often than I have changed my principles.

I can change jobs again if need be.

But then, I have never run for office, either.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2021, 03:22:16 pm »
They've also removed a statue of Lewis and Clark with Sacajawea. Two explorers and a native American. It's not about the Civil War, folks.

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Simply put,it's about Black Power,and their desire to demean and enslave US.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2021, 03:24:47 pm »
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As the idiots toppled this statue of three great explorers yesterday, they completely misunderstood Sacagawea’s posture. She was a tracker and guide. Lewis and Clark could not have achieved what they did without her extraordinary skills. Libs missed this part of American history.

8:59 PM · Jul 10, 2021

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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2021, 03:26:13 pm »
Keep in mind these are the same folks (philosophically) who toppled a statue of Frederich Douglass, too.

Maybe if they'd paid more attention in school they wouldn't have to work as paid agitators (Thugs!).

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Seriously?????

What excuse did they give for this?
















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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2021, 03:45:36 pm »
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Seriously?????

What excuse did they give for this?
Ignorance is an excuse all its own.

It happened last year in New York.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53311558

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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2021, 04:13:56 pm »
Ignorance is an excuse all its own.

It happened last year in New York.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53311558

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I should have known. The home of stoopid.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2021, 04:19:34 pm »
   Yet Lenin is still in Seattle.

No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2021, 04:54:50 pm »
   Yet Lenin is still in Seattle.



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Any of you that live in or near Seattle should start protesting and demandin the statue of Lenin be torn down.

Watch the lefties scream and howl in outrage at THAT one,while exposing themselves for who they really are.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2021, 05:38:23 pm »
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Any of you that live in or near Seattle should start protesting and demandin the statue of Lenin be torn down.

Watch the lefties scream and howl in outrage at THAT one,while exposing themselves for who they really are.

Well, it's not like Lenin actually killed anyone.  Oh, wait .  .  .
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2021, 06:21:04 pm »
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Any of you that live in or near Seattle should start protesting and demandin the statue of Lenin be torn down.

Watch the lefties scream and howl in outrage at THAT one,while exposing themselves for who they really are.

What's good for the goose ......

No protests or demands are needed, a mob can simply deface it and pull it down.
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Re: Charlottesville to take down Robert E. Lee statue on Saturday
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2021, 07:33:10 pm »
What's good for the goose ......

No protests or demands are needed, a mob can simply deface it and pull it down.

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Works for me.

If I were within driving distance of a Lenin,Marx (as long as it wasn't Groucho,of course!) or Stalin statue in a city park,I would be there doing my best to destroy the damn thing,or trying to beat the snot out of anyone that tried to stop me.
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