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Brooks: ‘It’s Become Obvious in Record Time’ Biden’s Afghanistan Withdrawal Is a Mistake


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7NFZy_8ecs&t=190s

Ian Hanchett 10 Jul 2021

On Friday’s “PBS NewsHour,” New York Times columnist David Brooks stated that it has quickly become clear that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is a mistake and that “We could be walking away from the idea that we can keep al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan again. So they could set up a terrorist spot.”

Brooks said, “I think he’s making a mistake. And it’s become obvious in record time that it’s a mistake. When he announced the policy initially, he said he had faith in the Afghan government to hold Afghanistan together from the Taliban. That has fallen apart. We reported earlier in the show, 85% of the territory has already fallen to the Taliban. The Taliban seems completely confident they will take over.”

He continued that the U.S. is “walking away from” girls in the country who want to go to school, and “We’re walking away from the idea that Afghanistan will stay one country. We could be walking away from the idea that we can keep al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan again. So they could set up a terrorist spot. You could just get incredible turmoil in that part of the world, refugees flooding into Pakistan, destabilizing Pakistan. So, to me, what we were doing over the last year, which was like 2,500 troops, relatively low casualties, was a price worth paying for humanitarian and strategic reasons. And I think it’s a mistake that we’re pulling out.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/07/10/brooks-its-become-obvious-in-record-time-bidens-afghanistan-withdrawal-is-a-mistake/#
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Horse manure,  Afghanistan had 20 years to get their act together, that's more than enough time.

Let the Chinese deal with it.

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The last time America 'won' a war was WWII.
Korea - draw
Vietnam - lose
Iraq - ???
Afghanistan - lose

Who in their right mind would ever join the American military today?
Either America's goal is always to lose, or they are the most incompetent military on Earth.
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Joe himself is a complete mistake.
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 There is a million and one things to fault Dementia Joe on....Pulling out of that POS wasteland is far far down on my list.   O'Bastard deserve more blame by 1/2 or more.
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The last time America 'won' a war was WWII.
Korea - draw
Vietnam - lose
Iraq - ???
Afghanistan - lose

Who in their right mind would ever join the American military today?
Either America's goal is always to lose, or they are the most incompetent military on Earth.
And the added bonus is, your own country hates you. Yippy! Where do I sign up?

Its easy to see the common denominator in all of those 'losses' - in each the primary goal became impressing a form of government upon the indigenous people, while in WWII nation-building was just the necessary byproduct.

Neither will I fault Biden for the coming loss in Afghanistan. I will fault him for helping lose America.
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There is a million and one things to fault Dementia Joe on....Pulling out of that POS wasteland is far far down on my list.   O'Bastard deserve more blame by 1/2 or more.

Now, leaving behind our military gear for the Taliban,   that's Grade A stupidity.

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There is a million and one things to fault Dementia Joe on....Pulling out of that POS wasteland is far far down on my list.   O'Bastard deserve more blame by 1/2 or more.

Even Dementia Joe is pissing off the NWO contingent.
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Whether we stayed in Afghanistan 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, or 100 years -- so long as we were unwilling to identify and fight "the real enemy" there, our efforts were destined to fail. Just as they have.

Who is willing to spit out the reality of who that "real enemy" IS...?

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The original intent was to avoid the Soviet doctrine, and instead keep a minimal presence (less than 10k) there to ensure that the Taliban does not take control of the Afghan government.  It also allowed us a military base in a part of the world were we had none.  Personally, I don't have a problem with that.

This scope was abandoned in 2009 (by repeating Soviet strategy), restored in 2017, and is now being abandoned again (by surrendering everything).
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Horse manure,  Afghanistan had 20 years to get their act together, that's more than enough time.

Let the Chinese deal with it.
I seriously doubt they will be constrained by any rules of conduct, and would think their ROE would be more free. That said, it might be interesting to see the forces of Islamism flock there to fight the Chinese... :pop41:
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I seriously doubt they will be constrained by any rules of conduct, and would think their ROE would be more free. That said, it might be interesting to see the forces of Islamism flock there to fight the Chinese... :pop41:

That would give them something to focus on.
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The last time America 'won' a war was WWII.
Korea - draw
Vietnam - lose
Iraq - ???
Afghanistan - lose

Who in their right mind would ever join the American military today?
Either America's goal is always to lose, or they are the most incompetent military on Earth.
And the added bonus is, your own country hates you. Yippy! Where do I sign up?

   Notice a pattern @240B

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America has never lost a war on the field of battle. You'd be hard pressed to find any battle we lost in Viet Nam. That war was lost on Main Street at the hands of peaceniks and Communist sympathizers. In WWII we spoke of "victory" and "defeating the enemy". These thoughts are condemned today. The military has stood fast, maintained its skills and competency, as civilians have hamstrung them with castrating "rules of engagement", "limited objectives", and such. The military doesn't decide to go to war, nor does it conduct wars as they see fit. They obey the civilian authority. In WW II that authority unleashed them and told them to destroy the enemy. Now that authority says "Be nice"... "don't hurt them too much".. "stop before you really hurt them".

That's not enough. Now civilians intend to wreck the military with CRT and wokeness. I won't see the end of America. My children might. My grandkids certainly will.

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America has never lost a war on the field of battle. You'd be hard pressed to find any battle we lost in Viet Nam. That war was lost on Main Street at the hands of peaceniks and Communist sympathizers. In WWII we spoke of "victory" and "defeating the enemy". These thoughts are condemned today. The military has stood fast, maintained its skills and competency, as civilians have hamstrung them with castrating "rules of engagement", "limited objectives", and such. The military doesn't decide to go to war, nor does it conduct wars as they see fit. They obey the civilian authority. In WW II that authority unleashed them and told them to destroy the enemy. Now that authority says "Be nice"... "don't hurt them too much".. "stop before you really hurt them".

That's not enough. Now civilians intend to wreck the military with CRT and wokeness. I won't see the end of America. My children might. My grandkids certainly will.

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Now, leaving behind our military gear for the Taliban,   that's Grade A stupidity.

What more could we expect from a clown who gave Putin a list of targets for cyber attacks?
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That's not enough. Now civilians intend to wreck the military with CRT and wokeness. I won't see the end of America. My children might. My grandkids certainly will.

Don't be so sure about not seeing the end of America.  Objects in Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear. 

The Democrats have been cutting the load-bearing columns and planting the dynamite for years.  The implosion of this building will happen in seconds, just like that Condo in Florida.
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What more could we expect from a clown who gave Putin a list of targets for cyber attacks?
Well, we just armed the people most likely to be duking it out with the Chinese... :shrug:
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Well, we just armed the people most likely to be duking it out with the Chinese... :shrug:

It's like a comedian I once heard:  "It's gratifying to see two ugly people getting married.  It takes two ugly people out of the dating pool.  The problem is, they'll produce a bunch of little ugly people."

It would be great to see a China/Afghanistan war.  It would tie both of them up so they'd have to leave us alone.  Until their spawn is released.
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Don't be so sure about not seeing the end of America.  Objects in Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear. 

The Democrats have been cutting the load-bearing columns and planting the dynamite for years.  The implosion of this building will happen in seconds, just like that Condo in Florida.
I suspect your words will end up being prophetic.

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I suspect your words will end up being prophetic.

I suspect fear my words will end up being prophetic.
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Cyber wrote:
"The Democrats have been cutting the load-bearing columns and planting the dynamite for years.  The implosion of this building will happen in seconds, just like that Condo in Florida."

Sometime back I posted that when Western Civilization falls, it will come down as rapidly as did the World Trade Center towers. One minute they were standing, and the next...

Having said that, I think we're looking at things wrong here.
If Afghanistan "falls" under biden, that's a GOOD thing.
That country's fate was inevitable, anyway.

Better than having it happen under Trump 1.... or the coming "Trump 2".
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Its easy to see the common denominator in all of those 'losses' - in each the primary goal became impressing a form of government upon the indigenous people, while in WWII nation-building was just the necessary byproduct.

@skeeter

I disagree. IMNSHO,the REAL reason troops were put on the ground in Shitstainistan because a US Presdent needed to look "manly",and because the defense industry needed the contracts. Both equated to votes. Both the "YEE,HAW! SHOW DEM RAGHEADS HOW HITS DUN!" voters,and the voters in states with defense industries that are suddenly booming and hiring people for new shifts.

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Neither will I fault Biden for the coming loss in Afghanistan.

Nor will I. Hell,he probably thinks an Afghanistan is a foreign car.
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