Surfside building to be demolished as Tropical Storm Elsa approaches Florida

[mystery-ak]

Surfside building to be demolished as Tropical Storm Elsa approaches Florida
By Celine Castronuovo - 07/03/21 12:33 PM EDT

Florida officials said Saturday they would move ahead with a plan to demolish the rest of the collapsed Surfside, Fla., condo building within 36 hours, citing concerns about the structure being unsafe due to the impending Tropical Storm Elsa, which could make landfall within days.

The storm was downgraded from a Category 1 hurricane to a tropical storm on Saturday morning. While it is currently projected to hit the west coast of Florida along the Gulf of Mexico, officials warned Saturday that any movement east could impact ongoing search and rescue efforts in the Miami-area town of Surfside.

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said that the planned demolition could be done within the next 36 hours, even as dozens of residents of the Champlain Towers South building remain missing.

The death toll in the condo building collapse increased to 24 on Saturday morning after emergency responders recovered two additional bodies from the rubble overnight, Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava (D) announced.

"If the building is taken down, this will protect our search and rescue teams because we don't know when it could fall over, and, of course, with these gusts potentially, that would create a really severe hazard," DeSantis said, adding the state would cover the costs of the demolition.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/561470-surfside-death-toll-now-at-24-as-tropical-storm-elsa-approaches-florida

[libertybele]

I think it is a very wise decision, but where are the residents that are left going to go? Who's footing the bill for the demolition? I'm sure that there are a lot of lawsuits over this but it could take years before people see any kind of compensation.

[Wingnut]

I think it is a very wise decision, but where are the residents that are left going to go? Who's footing the bill for the demolition? I'm sure that there are a lot of lawsuits over this but it could take years before people see any kind of compensation.

Dementia Joe said the gov would cover all of FL expenses for the 1st 30 days.  We shall see if this included demo.

[Cyber Liberty]

Dementia Joe said the gov would cover all of FL expenses for the 1st 30 days.  We shall see if this included demo.

I wonder if they'll replace all the possessions lost because people can't go back to retrieve them.  I suspect if they do, everybody will claim to have leather bound oak furniture.  There will be no way of checking the truthfulness of the claims.

[Fishrrman]

bele wrote:
"I think it is a very wise decision, but where are the residents that are left going to go? Who's footing the bill for the demolition? I'm sure that there are a lot of lawsuits over this but it could take years before people see any kind of compensation."

The owners of condos in that [former] building will be lucky to see 25 cents on the dollar of their purchase price. The insurance companies are going to fight having to pay out.
Unless the government steps in and "pays them off".

The owners' only resolution may be to walk away and consider themselves lucky that they got out with their lives and personal belongings.

I'll reckon that "the demolition" of the standing part (considering it will probably be done quickly with explosives) will pretty much put an end to any "search for survivors".

Who's interested in buying a high-rise condo on the Florida beach now...?

[Cyber Liberty]

The owners' only resolution may be to walk away and consider themselves lucky that they got out with their lives and personal belongings.

The belongings they could not carry out are lost, never to be seen again.

[roamer_1]

I'll reckon that "the demolition" of the standing part (considering it will probably be done quickly with explosives) will pretty much put an end to any "search for survivors".

There is no reasonable means I am aware of to rig a controlled explosive demolition in three days, and especially so regarding a damaged structure. Mechanical means are more likely.

[Cyber Liberty]

There is no reasonable means I am aware of to rig a controlled explosive demolition in three days, and especially so regarding a damaged structure. Mechanical means are more likely.

I guess that would depend on how large the demo team is?  I don't know, but there is usually a lot of prep work for an implosion.

[roamer_1]

I guess that would depend on how large the demo team is?  I don't know, but there is usually a lot of prep work for an implosion.

While my explosive expertise is largely in road construction, I have worked drill and wire on building/silo demos. There is a TON of holes to be drilled, supports to be weakened, and miles and miles of wire to pull to control det timing.

You don't just blow it up, unless you don't care how it falls, or what you may damage for four blocks in all directions.

Frankly, I don't see how they can bring it down entirely in three days. They might could knock off  few floors... But I think you'd play hell getting anything to happen in three days.

[Cyber Liberty]

While my explosive expertise is largely in road construction, I have worked drill and wire on building/silo demos. There is a TON of holes to be drilled, supports to be weakened, and miles and miles of wire to pull to control det timing.

You don't just blow it up, unless you don't care how it falls, or what you may damage for four blocks in all directions.

Frankly, I don't see how they can bring it down entirely in three days. They might could knock off  few floors... But I think you'd play hell getting anything to happen in three days.

The press is probably rooting for the multi-block wipe out, because there's a chance Ivanka Trump's apartment will be destroyed too.

[mystery-ak]

Are they going to let them back in to at least get some of their belongings....?

[Cyber Liberty]

Are they going to let them back in to at least get some of their belongings....?

Not a chance in Heck.  The potential liability to the government is enormous. 

[mystery-ak]

Not a chance in Heck.  The potential liability to the government is enormous.

Well I hope they had time to grab a few things when they were evacuated...

[Cyber Liberty]

Well I hope they had time to grab a few things when they were evacuated...

Whatever they could carry.  They probably had a good idea they would not be allowed to return.

[rustynail]

"You know what's good about this?"

[mystery-ak]

Fire Official: Demolition to Collapsed Condo to Start Sunday

Saturday, 03 July 2021 12:23 PM


A top Miami-Dade fire official on Saturday told family members of people missing in the rubble of a collapsed condo building that demolition workers planned to bring down the remainder of the building on Sunday.

Worries have intensified over the past week that the damaged structure could come tumbling down on its own, endangering the crews below and complicating the search for victims.

Fire Rescue Assistant Fire Chief Raide Jadallah told family members during a morning briefing that the building would be brought down “as soon as possible. First thing tomorrow.”

But he cautioned that there “may be some hiccups.” A follow-up meeting will be held in the afternoon to finalize details of the demolition, which could be a precarious operation as experts enter the building to bore into the structure to install explosives.

Concerns that the still-standing portion could tumble have curtailed the search in areas close to that section, and shifts detected by monitors early Thursday prompted a 15-hour suspension of the entire search until engineers determined the site was safe to restart.

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https://www.newsmax.com/us/building-collapse-miami/2021/07/03/id/1027358/

[Wingnut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElMjRSgMsiM