DeSantis Trounces the CDC in Big Court Win on Cruise Ships

[libertybele]

DeSantis Trounces the CDC in Big Court Win on Cruise Ships

There haven’t been many politicians willing to stand up for what’s right during this pandemic.

But one who has is Gov. Ron DeSantis. He’s stood strong and won on multiple issues including recently on mask mandates, with the Court of Appeals finding the mask mandate unconstitutional.

Now, he’s got another important constitutional win just in, on behalf of the cruise ships, his state of Florida, and all Americans.

A federal court judge threw out the CDC rules that kept cruise ships on an indefinite lockdown, saying the rules could only remain in place until July 18, granting DeSantis’ request for a preliminary injunction to stop the lockdown after that point. The court said that the CDC had until July 2; if they wished to come up with a narrower injunction in regard to rules, that would still allow the ships to sail. But the CDC had to prove what they intended to impose on the ships was supported by science and show their methodology.

The decision also held that Florida was very likely to win on the merits of the case, and there was an imminent threat of irreparable injury to Florida, which is why they granted the preliminary injunction after July 18.

Can we say complete and utter, huge win for DeSantis?.................

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/06/18/desantis-trounces-the-cdc-in-big-court-win-on-cruise-ships-n398893

[dfwgator]

We so need this man in the White House.  I hope Trump understands this.

[libertybele]

We so need this man in the White House.  I hope Trump understands this.

We also need him as governor.  Conservatives are NEVER going to win this fight from the top down right now.  We need to build a strong conservative foundation from the bottom up.  TX and FL are pretty well set and we especially need that leverage.

It is unfortunate that we don't have many true conservatives to fill the office of the presidency.  Pompeo/Greene perhaps?

I think Trump' age is a concern and I just don't see him running again.  Perhaps Trump as governor of FL and DeSantis in the WH?     

[Sled Dog]

We so need this man in the White House.  I hope Trump understands this.

Yes, Trump should pick him for VP.

[Slide Rule]

Yes, Trump should pick him for VP.

Amen.

[PeteS in CA]

This was predictable. Tyrannocrats don't give up power easily:

CDC reignites cruise fight with Florida after judge rules the agency's restrictions were excessive

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/cdc-reignites-fight-florida-after-judge-rules-agency-cant-regulate-cruises

The court battle between the CDC and Florida over the cruise industry continued Tuesday as the agency filed to appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, nearly three weeks after a lower court judge ruled that the federal government's restrictions on the industry were excessive.

"Despite an improving public health outlook in many parts of the country, the United States remains in the midst of a once-in-a-century pandemic that has killed over six hundred thousand Americans and nearly four million people worldwide," lawyers for the federal government wrote in a motion for a stay of the lower court's ruling on Tuesday.

"The Conditional Sailing Order ('CSO') is an important tool in ensuring that cruise ship operations do not exacerbate the spread of dangerous variants during this inflection point in the pandemic."

[corbe]

   Why didn't (Floridian transplant) Allen West run against John Cornyn?  I'm skeptical of any Floridian (except you @libertybele ) now.





    *OK, I'll admit I'm a Cruzer.

[berdie]

   Why didn't (Floridian transplant) Allen West run against John Cornyn?  I'm skeptical of any Floridian (except you @libertybele ) now.





    *OK, I'll admit I'm a Cruzer.

I agree @corbe . He could take Cornyn on and win handily (carpetbagger or not). UNLESS Abbott has an alternative office he is running for...I don't predict success.

*#CruzerFan.

[Bigun]

   Why didn't (Floridian transplant) Allen West run against John Cornyn?  I'm skeptical of any Floridian (except you @libertybele ) now.





    *OK, I'll admit I'm a Cruzer.

Cornyn was just re-elected in 2020 (without MY vote I'll assure you) and doesn't come up again until 2026.

@corbe @berdie

[corbe]

   Allen West has been in Garland, Tx since January 2015, plenty of time to setup a run against Cornyn.  He instead choose to run for TX GOP Leader in July 2019. 

Allen West’s final days as state GOP chair filled with intraparty drama

With only days before he steps down from the helm of the state GOP, West is embroiled in a fight with his vice chair and under attack by county GOP chairs.

BY PATRICK SVITEK JULY 7, 2021 20 HOURS AGO

Allen West’s final days as Texas GOP chair are ending with an explosion of the kind of intraparty drama he has become known for throughout his tenure.

On Wednesday, long-simmering tensions between West and the party’s vice chair, Cat Parks, boiled over as he called her a “cancer” and “delusional and apparently deranged” amid a dispute over a party committee project. Parks is a cancer survivor.

A day earlier, a group of county party chairs called for West’s immediate removal as state party leader, alleging an “outrageous conflict of interest” given that he is now running for governor. West announced last month that he was stepping down as Texas GOP chair, but it is not effective until Sunday, when the State Republican Executive Committee is set to elect his successor.

<..snip..>

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/07/allen-west-texas-gop/

   I know it's Texas Tribune and they have an axe to grind but I still wonder (particularly now) about the motives in Texas of Col. Allen West going after Abbott.   @Bigun

[berdie]

Cornyn was just re-elected in 2020 (without MY vote I'll assure you) and doesn't come up again until 2026.

@corbe @berdie

Correct, as always, @Bigun . 5 years isn't that far away. It might be he should keep his powder dry until then. Unless he is a stalking horse (hope not) or unless Abbott is moving on I don't see the benefit to him. I know some folks have soured on Abbott, but I'm not one of them.

[Bigun]

Correct, as always, @Bigun . 5 years isn't that far away. It might be he should keep his powder dry until then. Unless he is a stalking horse (hope not) or unless Abbott is moving on I don't see the benefit to him. I know some folks have soured on Abbott, but I'm not one of them.

The way he handled the "pandemic" was too much for me @berdie and I'll never vote for him again because of that.

My own personal opinion is that West is indeed a stalking horse for Abbott.  They are very afraid of Don Huffines a man with an actual record of conservatism.

Unless something drastically changes between now and next March, I will be casting my vote for Don in the primary.

[Bigun]

Abbott challenger accuses Texas governor of being Republican in name only

Former state Sen. Don Huffines (R), who is waging a bid against Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) for the party’s gubernatorial nomination, took on the sitting governor on Sunday, calling him a Republican in name only, commonly referred to as “RINO.”

“We don't have a Donald Trump as governor, we don't have a Ron DeSantis as governor, we don't have a William B. Travis as governor. Unfortunately we've got a career politician that's a political windsock, a RINO,” Huffines said of Abbott, at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), according to Newsweek.

Huffines, who represented a Dallas-based state Senate district for four years until 2019, launched a primary bid against Abbott in May.

At CPAC, Huffines critiqued Abbott for his handling of the surge in border crossings, asking the crowd “why isn’t the border secure?” after years of leadership under Abbott.

“Greg Abbott's been governor for six years. He could have secured the border six years ago or six months ago,” Abbott said.

Huffines also zeroed in on Abbott’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, attacking him for his decision to impose restrictions on the state’s economy.

“He put 3 million Texans on unemployment and dependent on the government in one day. He closed our churches on the holiest week of the year, Easter," Huffines said.

-- excerpt, rest at link above --

Political windsock is a perfect description of Abbott if you ask me.

Way to go Don!

[jafo2010]

If Abbott is a RINO, good riddance!!!

I always liked West's rhetoric through the years.  But has he ever done anything of note?  Seriously, did he present legislation of any consequence?  I do not know.  And that is what the legislature is for, right?

[MOD3]

Please revert to the topic of this thread and discuss Gov. Abbott in the Texas forum.

[libertybele]

Amen.

Though DeSantis is seemingly conservative by his recent actions and so far he has been a decent governor, I still remain cautious.

He did give the head of the FL Dept. of Health (signed into law) the authority to administer vaccines, quarantine, etc., those that they feel are a threat to the community. I have a problem with that. I have posted this a couple of times, but feel that a reminder is needed (link below).

DeSantis is NOT squeaky clean as many see him.  He also really botched the roll out of unemployment benefits, spent millions on revamping machines and hired Dane Eagle who lost his bid for our Rep. to oversee the unemployment department and people are still having problems with the system.  DeSantis at first blamed the last governor, but he was well aware of the problems long before the pandemic.

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The authorizing law gives the state health officer the power to take whatever actions she or he deems necessary, including “ordering an individual to be examined, tested, vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for communicable diseases that ... present a severe danger to public health.”

Anyone who is unwilling to be vaccinated may be subject to quarantine, the law says. And if there is no practical way to quarantine that person, the State Health Officer “may use any means necessary to vaccinate or treat the individual.” That includes calling on law enforcement to help him carry out those duties.

In another executive order, signed March 23, DeSantis required travelers from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut to self-quarantine for 14 days.

They were also required to sign a form that said the “State Health Officer and Surgeon General can order any individual to be examined, tested, vaccinated, treated, isolated, or quarantined for COVID-19.”

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/state/2020/11/23/florida-may-not-force-covid-vaccine-but-can-state-law-desantis-rivkees/6350516002/

[jafo2010]

Sorry, but DeSantis doing this is plain *ss wrong.

Next, if we do not comply, we head for the concentration camp?  Someone years ago indicated the government had built eight camps to each house one million folks.  If true, all they need is the slightest reason to put folks away.

I do not like where the USA is headed.  And I sure as hell do not like our country flooded with tens of millions of folks.  There is no interest by the pukes in Washington to represent the USA citizens, and I am getting tired of it.

[txradioguy]

So to get around this...the cruise lines are going to require non vaccinated guests to purchase insurance before boarding.

They will also limit you on where you can do and what you can do on your cruise if you're not vaccinated. i.e. shore excursions and eating in the main dining room.

This is the dilemma I'm facing for the cruise I have coming up in October.

[libertasbella]

We also need him as governor.  Conservatives are NEVER going to win this fight from the top down right now.  We need to build a strong conservative foundation from the bottom up.  TX and FL are pretty well set and we especially need that leverage. 

Agreed. Let red states dig their feet in and provide an attractive refuge for productives fleeing self-destructing blue states. And then flog them with socks filled with pennies if they vote to install their rat catchers into office in Florida and Texas.