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Fauci is the one that funded the research!!  Obama shut the research down for fear of a pandemic (he deserves some credit for that).  What I'd like to know is how did Fauci once again become involved during the Trump administration??? He didn't just come on board to be the health guru advisor when the pandemic hit, but he was actively involved in funding the research prior to the pandemic.  How the heck did that research re-open?  Raises lots of questions in my mind!

Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID

A bombshell new study claims to have proof that Chinese scientists created COVID-19 in a lab and then tried to reverse-engineer versions of the virus to make it look like it evolved naturally from bats.

British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen wrote they’ve had primary evidence "of retro-engineering in China" since last year, but were ignored by academics and major medical journals, The Daily Mail reported Saturday, citing the soon-to-be-published study.

The study concludes: "the likelihood of it being the result of natural processes is very small." The virus is still killing 12,000 people a day around the world.

Dalgleish is a London oncology professor known for breakthrough work on a vaccine for HIV. Sørensen is a virologist and chair of the pharmaceutical company Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has a financial stake in that company.

It was during their COVID-19 vaccine research that the pair came across "unique fingerprints" indicating the virus didn’t come from nature, they said.  The telltale clue: a rare finding in the COVID-carrying virus of a row of four amino acids, which give off a positive charge and bond to negative human cells.

"The laws of physics mean that you cannot have four positively charged amino acids in a row," Dalgleish told the Daily Mail. "The only way you can get this is if you artificially manufacture it."

They also tracked published Chinese research, some done working with American universities, to show how the tools to create the virus were allegedly built. A good part of the work reviewed involved "gain of function" research, which involves manipulating natural viruses in a lab to make them more infectious, allowing scientists to study their potential effect on humans.

The U.S. put a moratorium on such research in 2014. But it’s impossible to know if $600,000 funding for medical research in China was used for gain of function research, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress last week................

https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosive-study-claims-to-prove-chinese-scientists-created-covid
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2021, 01:53:06 am »
Fauci was head of NIAID for decades, that's how.

The sad part is that he threw good science and medicine under the bus for political ambition.
Even more sad is that there was no shortage of others willing to follow suit.
Had the results of the use of early onset treatments been more fairly studied and not censored by "Big Tech/Social Media" and the MSM, and official agencies in an effort to discredit Trump, hundreds of thousands of people might still be alive.

This is a crime against humanity.
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2021, 02:05:47 am »
The U.S. put a moratorium on such research in 2014. But it’s impossible to know if $600,000 funding for medical research in China was used for gain of function research, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress last week................

The 2014 moratorium is the reason the research was moved to Wuhan in the first place.  Fauci bypassed the moratorium by moving the research out of the country.
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2021, 02:12:07 am »
Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence

Project Number                |     1R01AI110964-01
Contact PI/Project Leader     |     DASZAK, PETER
Awardee Organization          |     ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE, INC.


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DESCRIPTION (provided by applicant): This project will examine the risk of future coronavirus (CoV) emergence from wildlife using in-depth field investigations across the human-wildlife interface in China, molecular characterization of novel CoVs and host receptor binding domain genes, mathematical models of transmission and evolution, and in vitro and in vivo laboratory studies of host range. Zoonotic CoVs are a significant threat to global health, as demonstrated with the emergence of pandemic severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) in China in 2002, and the recent and ongoing emergence of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV). Bats appear to be the natural reservoir of these viruses, and .  .  .  . 

Project Start Date
01-June-2014
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2021, 02:38:03 am »
The 2014 moratorium is the reason the research was moved to Wuhan in the first place.  Fauci bypassed the moratorium by moving the research out of the country.
That research had already created a chimera virus from a Bat coronavirus and a "mouse adapted SARS backbone" capable of exploiting the ACE2 receptor in humans, and which attacked upper respiratory and lung tissue, with antiviral resistance. The Chinese (two of whom were on that team, and from Wuhan) already had the basic bug, and may have refined it a little, but they got the core of the research data with their scientists back, who had been involved in creating that virus
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The letter in Nature practically described SARS-CoV-2, in terms of receptors, characteristics, and the tissue it attacked, as well as being resistant to known antivirals. I'm not sure if the article has been scrubbed, but here is the original link, dated 2015: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

 
Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are antiparasitic drugs, and were not known for their ionophoric properties WRT to zinc, nor the combination known as an effective antiviral treatment until Zelenko posted his YouTube explaining the regimen (hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin/Zinc) and WHY IT WORKED, when used at the first onset of symptoms. I saw that before it was removed from YouTube, and it made sense, from a scientific standpoint. I also know someone who has taken Hydroxychloroquine for years, and when the media started demonizing the drug, knew better.

As soon as Trump mentioned Hydroxychloroquine, along with UV light treatments (which research pretty much stopped with the advent of common new antibiotics, because the treatment was unnecessary and complicated compared to taking a pill) and "antiseptic" (nebulized Hydrogen Peroxide, inhaled) the MSM had a field day, even though there was reason to believe that the treatments would work.

The latter two were summarily ridiculed and misstated, even though a simple web search would bring up references.

The jihad against Hydroxychloroquine involved poorly designed "studies" which all left out the critical zinc supplementation and often left out the antibiotic and were usually administered in the late stages of COVID, instead of early onset. The effects of zinc in mitigating viral infections (primarily the Common Cold, about 1/4 of which are caused by coronaviruses) are now again touted in advertising for cold remedies, but seemed to seldom get mention before the vaccines came out, perhaps because people might put two and two together.

One study (Brazil) even went so far as to give patients lethal doses of Chloroquine (although perhaps unintentionally) --a different drug that sounds like hydroxychloroquine but has more adverse effects (especially q-t interval lengthening on an electrocardiogrph, an indicator it takes the heart longer to recharge between beats, and which can lead to death) and was stopped when subjects died.

YouTube censored Zelenko, and the group Frontline Doctors was ridiculed because of one of the doctors who stepped up, ignoring the results of their investigations in the rush to ridicule Trump.
Of those who did the research or read about it from others and were able to obtain the ionophore drugs (even veterinary) and zinc survived, at least the ones I know, without hospitalization or long term effects (so far).

A lot of other people died or were subjected to lengthy hospital stays, some still feeling the aftereffects of lung tissue and other damage wrought by the virus.

Considering the charge against even trying the regimens in an appropriate early onset clinical study was pretty much led by the likes of the FDA, CDC, and NIAID, I have to ask how much influence politics had on those agencies' decisions rather than science, and whether the smokescreen blaming Trump was issued in order to provide cover and concealment for the results of clandestine research conducted in collusion with our enemies?

The asses that smokescreen would provide cover for are agency heads and individual scientists, and Fauci is in the thick of it.
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2021, 03:10:34 am »
It has been obvious where this came from since it started.

The question is, is the Chinese government and those who did their bidding going to pay any actual price for it? There should be hell to pay. Serious hell.

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2021, 03:11:57 am »
Fauci was head of NIAID for decades, that's how.

The sad part is that he threw good science and medicine under the bus for political ambition.
Even more sad is that there was no shortage of others willing to follow suit.
Had the results of the use of early onset treatments been more fairly studied and not censored by "Big Tech/Social Media" and the MSM, and official agencies in an effort to discredit Trump, hundreds of thousands of people might still be alive.

This is a crime against humanity.

But then who is at fault? Globalist eugenicists represented in Fauci and Gates (both of whom funded the Wuhan lab, and are cleaning up right now in the vaccine), and China's the bagholder, or is China the culprit, pissed at Tumpy and dooming his presidency?
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2021, 03:16:48 am »
It has been obvious where this came from since it started.

The question is, is the Chinese government and those who did their bidding going to pay any actual price for it? There should be hell to pay. Serious hell.

 :yowsa: But I won't be holding my breath waiting for that.
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2021, 03:16:57 am »
But then who is at fault? Globalist eugenicists represented in Fauci and Gates (both of whom funded the Wuhan lab, and are cleaning up right now in the ), and China's the bagholder, or is China the culprit, pissed at Tumpy and dooming his presidency?

That is the $64 question.  Remember back when China was saying this was a US virus?
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Re: Explosive study claims to prove Chinese scientists created COVID
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2021, 03:20:24 am »
That is the $64 question.  Remember back when China was saying this was a US virus?

They might be right in that.

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2021, 03:52:27 am »
But then who is at fault? Globalist eugenicists represented in Fauci and Gates (both of whom funded the Wuhan lab, and are cleaning up right now in the vaccine), and China's the bagholder, or is China the culprit, pissed at Tumpy and dooming his presidency?
Cui bono?

It has been to China's advantage to stop the economy that Trump would have had as a premier reason for reelection (and trillions in spending would never have reached the desk), if for no other reason than to get rid of Trump, who like him or not, was a better negotiator with the Chinese than the GOPe. (Hmmm. Think about that.
 Maybe the GOPe are better hardliners than the CCP, or maybe just colluding. )

Fauci and Gates are Leftists, too. So we have an 'enemy of my enemy' situation which would bring all their efforts to bear on the same target, and there is no doubt that their efforts were tailor made to set the stage for tremendous vote fraud, conspicuously conducted in the 11th hour because they underestimated how much faith the voters had in Trump to pull the economy back out of the fire when the bug was gone.

All of them wanted Trump out: Gates to do his climate/eugenics trip, Fauci to do his 'gain of function' and other Dr. Moreau stuff (and for profit, too), the Chinese to remove a hawkish, yet peaceful, impediment to world domination, and the MSM to clear the way for whatever Democrat puppet was going to be the front man for the Global Empire.

They all are, and others besides.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2021, 04:13:32 am »
They might be right in that.

They US may well have had a hand in creating the virus but it leaked/was released from a Chinese lab. The damage was caused by the latter.

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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2021, 05:04:00 am »
Cui bono?

It has been to China's advantage to stop the economy that Trump would have had as a premier reason for reelection (and trillions in spending would never have reached the desk), if for no other reason than to get rid of Trump, who like him or not, was a better negotiator with the Chinese than the GOPe. (Hmmm. Think about that.
 Maybe the GOPe are better hardliners than the CCP, or maybe just colluding. )

Fauci and Gates are Leftists, too. So we have an 'enemy of my enemy' situation which would bring all their efforts to bear on the same target, and there is no doubt that their efforts were tailor made to set the stage for tremendous vote fraud, conspicuously conducted in the 11th hour because they underestimated how much faith the voters had in Trump to pull the economy back out of the fire when the bug was gone.

All of them wanted Trump out: Gates to do his climate/eugenics trip, Fauci to do his 'gain of function' and other Dr. Moreau stuff (and for profit, too), the Chinese to remove a hawkish, yet peaceful, impediment to world domination, and the MSM to clear the way for whatever Democrat puppet was going to be the front man for the Global Empire.

They all are, and others besides.

Nah. China took a huge hit over the last year - Makes Tumpy's time pale by comparison. That don't hunt. But the rest of it kinda does... Tipping the whole world over plays better into the globalists than it does into China.  Hard telling.


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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2021, 07:02:12 am »
Nah. China took a huge hit over the last year - Makes Tumpy's time pale by comparison. That don't hunt. But the rest of it kinda does... Tipping the whole world over plays better into the globalists than it does into China.  Hard telling.
Keep in mind the Chinese GDP is growing by leaps and bounds while the Democrats are strangling ours, and the rest of the world is far behind China. My bet is that the Globalists think they can dominate the Chinese, and the Chinese think they will get the better of the globalists. In the end, rifles will settle that, if missiles don't.
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