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Offline PeteS in CA

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‘Ignore The CDC’: Johns Hopkins Professor Says Half Of Americans Have ‘Natural Immunity’

https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/25/marty-makary-cdc-natural-immunity/

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A professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine said Tuesday that almost “half the country” has natural immunity from COVID-19 due to prior infection.

Dr. Marty Makary appeared on “The Vince Coglianese Show” Tuesday, where he called dismissal of natural immunity “one of the biggest failures of our current medical leadership.”

Makary lamented the lack of guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for those who were infected but have recovered from the disease.

He also decried the demonization of people with natural immunity for refusing to get vaccinated, which Makary said is a reasonable decision, because “natural immunity works.”

Despite decades of solid science, questions over the efficacy of gained immunity — and even whether vaccinated people could spread the virus — have plagued debate about whether and when to reopen states, localities and businesses. ...

The "experts" have taken the stance that because they can't quantify the number of recovered or whether immunity-by-recovery is variant-specific, those of us who have recovered don't exist. I'm not sure I buy his "almost half of the country" estimate, but it's far closer to accurate than the "experts" who effectively say it's zero.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Well, I seldom (like once a decade) get a cold, and don't get the flu (or flu shots), so why not immunity to this? Besides I have my Ivermectin and zinc...
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Isn't this just another way of saying it wasn't as contagious as claimed?
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Isn't this just another way of saying it wasn't as contagious as claimed?
Yep.
How many "Symptomless infections" were just false positive test results? 
From the FDA website:
Potential for False Positive Results with Antigen Tests for Rapid Detection of SARS-CoV-2 - Letter to Clinical Laboratory Staff and Health Care Providers
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Remember that positive predictive value (PPV) varies with disease prevalence when interpreting results from diagnostic tests. PPV is the percent of positive test results that are true positives. As disease prevalence decreases, the percent of test results that are false positives increase.

    For example, a test with 98% specificity would have a PPV of just over 80% in a population with 10% prevalence, meaning 20 out of 100 positive results would be false positives.
    The same test would only have a PPV of approximately 30% in a population with 1% prevalence, meaning 70 out of 100 positive results would be false positives.  This means that, in a population with 1% prevalence, only 30% of individuals with positive test results actually have the disease.
    At 0.1% prevalence, the PPV would only be 4%, meaning that 96 out of 100 positive results would be false positives.
    Health care providers should take the local prevalence into consideration when interpreting diagnostic test results.
Those are antigen tests (the 'rapid test'), and I would expect that the same sort of results would be expectedregardless of where we are in the pandemic for any prevalence group.
For the follow up (confirmation, and considered more accurate) PCR testing, they used up to 40 cycle PCR tests instead of the (now CDC recommended) maximum of 28 cycle PCR tests (to avoid false positives in vaccinated people)--unless you haven't been vaccinated, of course.

Each cycle doubles the viral material present, so a 40 cycle test would yield a result amplified by over a trillion times. A 28 cycle test only amplifies Any viral material by a factor of 268 million. (2^40=1,099,511,627,776, 2^28=268,435,456) big difference.

No wonder fruit and goats were testing positive.

https://sentinelksmo.org/cdc-maximum-28-ct-for-post-vaccine-covid-pcr-tests/
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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