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Re: Surprising number of EV owners switch back to gas power, study says
« Reply #75 on: June 02, 2021, 11:58:48 pm »
I don't know all that, but your hand without the thumb, held to the sky is about an hour. So if you know the sun came up around 8am and you are 3 hands above the horizon, that is around 11am, and four hands will get you straight up which would be noon... Consequently, each finger is around a quarter hour...

15 minutes per finger. And that's only at the equator.

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« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2021, 12:17:49 am »
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Around 2200 years ago, the first Greek astronomer to describe a round Earth wanted a system to navigate it. He took that 6-part circle and divided each part by 60 to get 360 degrees.
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My understanding is the 360 degree circle came from ancient celestial observations of what we call the sidereal year, i.e. how long it takes the sun to complete an annual cycle of motion relative to the fixed stars.  We know this is 365 and a quarter days give or take a few minutes; lacking the conveniences of a Hubble Telescope, atomic clocks, and digital computations, the learned ancients were off a bit, or decided simply to round the circle to 360 units for convenience.

I cannot cite a reference, it's just something I read somewhere a long time ago; I stand to be corrected.

I have never read the connection between the twelve carpal bones in the fingers of one hand and the four-fingers-plus-one-thumb of the other hand explaining 12 and 60 in our measurements of time.  If that's not really true, it should be.
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Re: Surprising number of EV owners switch back to gas power, study says
« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2021, 04:06:16 am »
15 minutes per finger. And that's only at the equator.

Works up in  here... Good enough anyhow, for mountain time... Of course it ain't perfect, as it has to do with the size of your hand, length of your arm, height, and etc... But for my particular configuration, it works.  :shrug:


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Re: Surprising number of EV owners switch back to gas power, study says
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2021, 04:53:46 am »
The automobile offers several advantages over the horse and buggy, whereas as far as I can tell the electric car has no advantages over the gas-powered car, and several clear disadvantages, such as shorter range, slower max speed, longer time to refuel. Why would anyone buy an electric car instead of a gas-powered car?


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« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2021, 04:52:32 pm »
15 minutes per finger. And that's only at the equator.

I don't think it matters if you are on the equator or not regarding the hand/arm and angle being an hour. Angles are angles. It only matters that it takes about 24 of them to make a complete circle. The big adjustment based on where you are is knowing when the sun rise and/or sun set is. If you know that then regardless of where you are the hand measurement still ought to work. I think...

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Re: Surprising number of EV owners switch back to gas power, study says
« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2021, 06:09:03 pm »
If you do it right, fuel for the electric car can be free. You can use other people's electricity to charge it. Our research park has free hookups.
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« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2021, 06:29:33 pm »
I don't think it matters if you are on the equator or not regarding the hand/arm and angle being an hour. Angles are angles. It only matters that it takes about 24 of them to make a complete circle. The big adjustment based on where you are is knowing when the sun rise and/or sun set is. If you know that then regardless of where you are the hand measurement still ought to work. I think...

It definitely matters if you are using the technique where you're measuring the number of finger widths between the bottom of the sun and the horizon. You can read more about it here.

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Re: Surprising number of EV owners switch back to gas power, study says
« Reply #82 on: June 03, 2021, 07:48:38 pm »
It definitely matters if you are using the technique where you're measuring the number of finger widths between the bottom of the sun and the horizon. You can read more about it here.

Yep, that technique is heavily dependent on what latitude you are.

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« Reply #83 on: June 03, 2021, 10:32:36 pm »
I don't think it matters if you are on the equator or not regarding the hand/arm and angle being an hour. Angles are angles. It only matters that it takes about 24 of them to make a complete circle. The big adjustment based on where you are is knowing when the sun rise and/or sun set is. If you know that then regardless of where you are the hand measurement still ought to work. I think...

Yeah it does matter for telling time... Summer vs winter, the sun ain't in the sky nowhere near the same amount of time. Summer she rises at 4:30 and sets near 11pm... In the winter your lucky if it's up at 9 and it's gone at 4pm...

So telling time, you have to take that into account. But it really don't matter in the doing, because noon is always pretty much straight up, and it still works the same way to tell how long till the sun sets, even if it is longer between noon and when the sun sets... From straight up noon to four oclock is still four hands, and three hands from sunset is still 3hrs. Or thereabouts.

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« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2021, 12:11:48 am »
Yeah it does matter for telling time... Summer vs winter, the sun ain't in the sky nowhere near the same amount of time. Summer she rises at 4:30 and sets near 11pm... In the winter your lucky if it's up at 9 and it's gone at 4pm...

So telling time, you have to take that into account. But it really don't matter in the doing, because noon is always pretty much straight up, and it still works the same way to tell how long till the sun sets, even if it is longer between noon and when the sun sets... From straight up noon to four oclock is still four hands, and three hands from sunset is still 3hrs. Or thereabouts.

I was thinking about the rotation around the earth and not relative to the horizon. If the horizon is the reference then where you are matters a lot.