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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2021, 06:01:39 pm »
Antibodies created by one person will be treated as foreign invaders to another.

No.  Donating plasma with antibodies from people previously infected with Covid is one of the treatments for Covid.


https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/plasma-donations-from-recovered-covid-19-patients.html

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/donate-covid-19-plasma
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2021, 06:03:15 pm »
Might induce?  Seriously?  This is what now passes for 'science'?

Yes, first stages.

It has not yet been completely studied and published in peer reviewed journals.

But that process has started. 
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2021, 06:36:58 pm »
No.  Donating plasma with antibodies from people previously infected with Covid is one of the treatments for Covid.


https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/plasma-donations-from-recovered-covid-19-patients.html

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/donate-covid-19-plasma

You are talking about a temporary situation.  The plasma injection is for an immediate boost to an infected person already producing his/her own antibodies.  Take an uninfected person, give them plasma from someone with antibodies, and then check their body three months later for those same antibodies.  See how many foreign invaders you find.

It's no different than putting Rh+ blood in someone who is Rh-.
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2021, 06:38:31 pm »
Yes, first stages.

It has not yet been completely studied and published in peer reviewed journals.

But that process has started.

I'm good with that.  I'm just tired of other people (not you) pushing 'science' that is not yet science. 





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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2021, 06:43:03 pm »
You are talking about a temporary situation.  The plasma injection is for an immediate boost to an infected person already producing his/her own antibodies.  Take an uninfected person, give them plasma from someone with antibodies, and then check their body three months later for those same antibodies.  See how many foreign invaders you find.

It's no different than putting Rh+ blood in someone who is Rh-.

It is temporary in original infected person as well.  The point is the recipient body does not treat the donated antibodies like an infection to attack.

Limited window for donation of convalescent plasma with high live-virus neutralizing antibody titers for COVID-19 immunotherapy
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-021-01813-y
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2021, 06:49:26 pm »
I believe I said 'foreign invaders' - not an infection to attack.







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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2021, 07:04:00 pm »
I believe I said 'foreign invaders' - not an infection to attack.

Okay, that was my interpretation on your words.

So by "foreign invaders" did you mean they would be treated like Trump would or like Biden would treat them?
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2021, 07:39:49 pm »
Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines induce robust T cell response against SARS-CoV-2 variants
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210516/Moderna-and-Pfizer-BioNTech-vaccines-induce-robust-T-cell-response-against-SARS-CoV-2-variants.aspx

Researchers in the United States have conducted a study showing the efficacy of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines at eliciting a robust T cell response against variants of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) – the agent that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

The team – from Gladstone Institute of Virology in San Francisco and the University of California – also provided evidence that individuals who receive one vaccine dose after having recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection may not require a second dose.

Furthermore, Nadia Roan and colleagues showed that in previously infected individuals, vaccination might induce more persistent homing of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells to the respiratory tract than in previously uninfected individuals.  ...

I'm gonna bet  there will be a need for further shots against the variants.
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2021, 08:04:27 pm »
I'm gonna bet  there will be a need for further shots against the variants.

I think regardless of the variants, there will need to be booster shots.
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Re: Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2021, 08:11:45 pm »
Okay, that was my interpretation on your words.

So by "foreign invaders" did you mean they would be treated like Trump would or like Biden would treat them?

That depends on whether you're using European swallows or African swallows.
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