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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2021, 02:01:57 pm »
Quote from: thackney on May 12, 2021, 11:27:11 am
Something you may want to consider.  I find this advice repeated from a lot of sources.

https://www.erieinsurance.com/blog/low-fuel-running-on-empty

Damaged fuel pump: It’s the job of your car’s fuel pump to send gasoline to the engine. The pump is submerged in the gas tank where, by design, it uses fuel to cool and lubricate it. Most fuel pumps can last for the life of your vehicle. But when you run your car on empty, it’s possible for the pump to overheat, which can lead to a costly failure. Because the gas tank often needs to be drained and removed to replace the pump, this labor-intensive job could cost upwards of $1,000 to repair.

 :yowsa: Excellent advice there.  The rule around here is when you see that fuel gauge below half start looking for a place to fill up and never allow it to get below on quarter full.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2021, 02:02:05 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 13, 2021, 09:34:34 am
I don't know what you got, but that's what I meant by the aftermarket pickup tube and sending unit.  You just take the old gear out, replace it with the pickup tube / sending unit combo, and the you are free to relocate the pump to a frame rail. Been a while, but that pickup tube / sender was under fifty, probably thirty... and that is cheap to never have to do it again.  YMMV
Now that would be a nice retrofit, because I'm no fan of the in-tank pump. I'll have to check into that for the next time. One and done appeals to me, and nothing sucks like sitting on the side of the road in -20 weather with a full tank and no engine.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2021, 02:05:36 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on May 13, 2021, 02:01:57 pm
:yowsa: Excellent advice there.  The rule around here is when you see that fuel gauge below half start looking for a place to fill up and never allow it to get below on quarter full.
We run on the top half here, mainly out of habit from winter (never far away). If you end up stuck in a snowbank, that extra fuel can make the difference between life and death. (You might have to pop the hood and dig the snow out from around the front of the engine before it all freezes into a block of ice, though).
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2021, 02:20:25 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on May 13, 2021, 02:05:36 pm
We run on the top half here, mainly out of habit from winter (never far away). If you end up stuck in a snowbank, that extra fuel can make the difference between life and death. (You might have to pop the hood and dig the snow out from around the front of the engine before it all freezes into a block of ice, though).

We have not generally had that kind of problem down here in these latitudes but after last February it may be coming!
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2021, 02:37:54 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on May 13, 2021, 02:01:57 pm
:yowsa: Excellent advice there.  The rule around here is when you see that fuel gauge below half start looking for a place to fill up and never allow it to get below on quarter full.

@Bigun

Same  here,and everywhere else that is rural. Not so much for city people,who have 24 hour gas stations on pretty much every corner.

At one time not so long ago,it was a 50 mile drive to the nearest ER,and the closest thing to an ambulance was a sheriff's deputy in a station wagon that might be a 20 minute drive away.

You didn't DARE come home with anything other than a full tank of gas,period. Even if you had 3/4 of a tank,you stopped and filled up before coming home. There were no gas stations within 50 miles that were open after dark where I lived,and there was no such thing as a self-service after hours gas pump. Even if there were,who has the time to stop and feed dollar bills into a machine to fill the gas tank while someone is laying in the backseat of your car,possibly dying?
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #58 on: May 13, 2021, 03:25:23 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on May 13, 2021, 02:05:36 pm
We run on the top half here, mainly out of habit from winter (never far away). If you end up stuck in a snowbank, that extra fuel can make the difference between life and death. (You might have to pop the hood and dig the snow out from around the front of the engine before it all freezes into a block of ice, though).

I will second that. And full fuel tanks don't condense either. Not to mention that like Texas, up in here, everything is too far away and nothing in between.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #59 on: May 13, 2021, 04:03:27 pm »
They asked for only five megabucks?

Wasn't real ransomware criminals.

We'll know it's a real attack if they identify the criminals.   And with the CIA FBI NSA on the deal, the only way they won't report on who the criminals are is if the criminals have (D) after their name or they work for the CIA FBI NSA DNC.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2021, 04:14:26 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 13, 2021, 03:25:23 pm
I will second that. And full fuel tanks don't condense either. Not to mention that like Texas, up in here, everything is too far away and nothing in between.

As long as the tank does not breath, it won't condense.  But if you have a tank, especially is exposed to the sun, and is not containing the top pressure, it is likely going to breath some with day to night temperature changes.  And down here, it often near breaths near 100% humidity.

If a full tank goes from full to empty, it sucked air into the tank.  It is not just gasoline vapor fumes.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2021, 06:43:07 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on May 13, 2021, 02:51:46 pm
There is more to this story than we will ever know.  @DCPatriot called it.

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LOL!  Well, 'SOMEBODY' paid it.  Not Colonial, perhaps.

Still say that the Biden (Obama) administration paid it out of the infrastructure funds.  After all, it's 'Petty Cash' when you're talking about $1.3Trillion.

They see the People are blaming the Biden White House and they couldn't have that, when their other hand is whipping up the citizenry with this White Devil Domestic Terrorist nonsense.

No way would Colonial pay it because they know they've got a State-of-the Art, 'Fail-Safe' system and ordinarily should be able to get back online in less than 12 hours, as @roamer_1 , et al, explained.

Realizing this all reads like crazy...but does that mean it couldn't happen?  Today?


Exactly!   :laugh:

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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2021, 07:00:56 pm »
Proving once again that the Democratic Party is for the little guy President Joe Biden gets the gas flowing.

Just in time for the American People to enjoy the coming beginning of summer holiday. 
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2021, 07:20:23 pm »
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LOL!  Well, 'SOMEBODY' paid it.  Not Colonial, perhaps.

Still say that the Biden (Obama) administration paid it out of the infrastructure funds.  After all, it's 'Petty Cash' when you're talking about $1.3Trillion.

They see the People are blaming the Biden White House and they couldn't have that, when their other hand is whipping up the citizenry with this White Devil Domestic Terrorist nonsense.

No way would Colonial pay it because they know they've got a State-of-the Art, 'Fail-Safe' system and ordinarily should be able to get back online in less than 12 hours, as @roamer_1 , et al, explained.

Realizing this all reads like crazy...but does that mean it couldn't happen?  Today?


Exactly!   :laugh:

Not surprising to realize that probably one a national government would have the sophistication to hack the Colonial software, or a major Big Fascist Tech firm.

So pick from (China, Russia, Israel, Iran, China, Japan, the United States, or China) on the one hand, or (Google, Twitter, Fakebook, or Microsoft) on the other. 

Either set is capable, either set could be willing, either set could actually want to do it.

Our domestic tech giants are no less a direct enemy to America than the foreign governments they wish to supercede.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2021, 07:21:18 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on May 13, 2021, 07:00:56 pm
Proving once again that the Democratic Party is for the little guy President Joe Biden gets the gas flowing.

Just in time for the American People to enjoy the coming beginning of summer holiday.

If the Rodents were for the "little guy" (a Bill Clinton reference?) why did they steal the election in 2020?
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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If the Rodents were for the "little guy" (a Bill Clinton reference?) why did they steal the election in 2020?

Clinton called his johnson "little guy."
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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Clinton called his johnson "little guy."

Was that a nice thing to say about Ladybird's war mongering husband?
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2021, 12:07:04 am »
It's that time of year anyways - time to fill up the gas caddy just in case. Last couple of hurricanes gas became unavailable for awhile and the extra gas came in very handy.
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« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2021, 04:25:05 pm »
Colonial Pipeline CEO says company paid hackers $4.4 million in ransomware attack
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/554334-colonial-pipeline-ceo-says-company-paid-hackers-44-million-after
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2021, 04:27:27 pm »
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Colonial Pipeline CEO says company paid hackers $4.4 million in ransomware attack  .  .  .

.  .  .  which it will pass on to its customers.
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Re: Cyber attack shuts down largest US gasoline pipeline – 45% of east coast and southern regions
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2021, 06:24:19 pm »
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Colonial Pipeline CEO says company paid hackers $4.4 million in ransomware attack
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/554334-colonial-pipeline-ceo-says-company-paid-hackers-44-million-after
Glenn Beck said this morning it was $90 million.
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