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The Post & Email 5/5/2021

At 9:51 a.m. Wednesday, 45th President Donald J. Trump issued a statement on the new section of his political website donaldjtrump.com, “Desk,” regarding Wyoming Congresswoman Liz Cheney, who voted in favor of Trump’s second impeachment in January and has derided Trump’s claims that massive “election fraud” placed Democrat Joe Biden in the White House.

“Warmonger Liz Cheney, who has virtually no support left in the Great State of Wyoming, continues to unknowingly and foolishly say that there was no Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election when in fact, the evidence, including no Legislative approvals as demanded by the U.S. Constitution, shows the exact opposite,” Trump wrote. “Had Mike Pence referred the information on six states (only need two) back to State Legislatures, and had gutless and clueless MINORITY Leader Mitch McConnell (he blew two seats in Georgia that should have never been lost) fought to expose all of the corruption that was presented at the time, with more found since, we would have had a far different Presidential result, and our Country would not be turning into a socialist nightmare! Never give up!”

Since November 4, Trump and his campaign legal team have claimed that widespread and organized election “fraud” denied him a second consecutive term, fueled by the relaxing of some states’ laws governing the use of absentee ballots without approval from the respective state legislatures. In the “swing” states of Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania, laws were violated in various ways, according to then-Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, who reported having received more than 1,000 sworn affidavits attesting to it.

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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 07:32:48 pm »
There are no rules of evidence nor penalty of perjury in the courts of public opinion.  Those do exist in courts of law.

Joe Biden is the Constitutionally elected President of the United States who won the Electoral College, whose results were accepted by Congress on January 6th.

It will be easier for the GOP to win elections in 2022, 2024, and 2026 if it doesn't waste time, money, communications, and public goodwill contesting the results of an election that was Constitutionally concluded on January 6th, 2021.

Lost elections are similar to bankruptcies - it is an opportunity to re-organize, re-focus, and re-emerge stronger for the future.  Doubling down on past failure will just result in more costly failures.

The 2022, 2024, and 2026 elections will be different because of the 2020 Census re-apportionment and the House seat redistrictings.  This also changes the Electoral College map for the 2024 and 2028 Presidential elections.   Future elections will be different and the GOP needs to adapt to win again, with or without Donald J. Trump.

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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 08:11:49 pm »
There are no rules of evidence nor penalty of perjury in the courts of public opinion.  Those do exist in courts of law.

Joe Biden is the Constitutionally elected President of the United States who won the Electoral College, whose results were accepted by Congress on January 6th.

It will be easier for the GOP to win elections in 2022, 2024, and 2026 if it doesn't waste time, money, communications, and public goodwill contesting the results of an election that was Constitutionally concluded on January 6th, 2021.

Lost elections are similar to bankruptcies - it is an opportunity to re-organize, re-focus, and re-emerge stronger for the future.  Doubling down on past failure will just result in more costly failures.

The 2022, 2024, and 2026 elections will be different because of the 2020 Census re-apportionment and the House seat redistrictings.  This also changes the Electoral College map for the 2024 and 2048 Presidential elections.   Future elections will be different and the GOP needs to adapt to win again, with or without Donald J. Trump.


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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 08:22:08 pm »
There are no rules of evidence nor penalty of perjury in the courts of public opinion.  Those do exist in courts of law.

Joe Biden is the Constitutionally elected President of the United States who won the Electoral College, whose results were accepted by Congress on January 6th.

Maybe under the Constitution of Californiastan.

The Constitution of the United States, however, makes it perfectly clear that the state legislatures, and ONLY the state legislatures, can decide how the state shall select it's Presidential Electors.

Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and other states, more than enough to deny that senile old Rodent the majority of Electoral Votes needed, had the laws regarding their state's elections modified by the Secretaries of State or the judges, without the consent of the legislature, thus invalidating the electors those states awarded to that decrepit plagiarizing communist and his cackling whore side-sick....kick.   

So, no.   Joe Biden, Obama's Third Term Puppet, was not Constitutionally elected and is in no way the real president of the United States.

And no sane person believes that 80 million people in America, not one of whom is an American, cast ballots for someone so obviously well along in the progression of Alzheimer's.

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It will be easier for the GOP to win elections in 2022, 2024, and 2026 if it doesn't waste time, money, communications, and public goodwill contesting the results of an election that was Constitutionally concluded on January 6th, 2021.

It wasn't constitutionally performed.

But we do know why you people are paid to persist in the Big Lie.

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Lost elections are similar to bankruptcies - it is an opportunity to re-organize, re-focus, and re-emerge stronger for the future.  Doubling down on past failure will just result in more costly failures.

Stolen elections are similar to wars.

This election was not lost....not by the Republicans.  The Rodents lost the election, obviously.

And now the party which stole the election is engaging in acts of propaganda that would make Goebbels blush.   Gotta wonder what's wrong with the tools repeating the Big Lie.  Everyone, even them, knows everyone knows it's the Biggest Lie in American history.   Even bigger than the lie that the Rodents aren't the home of raycism.

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The 2022, 2024, and 2026 elections will be different because of the 2020 Census re-apportionment and the House seat redistrictings.  This also changes the Electoral College map for the 2024 and 2048 Presidential elections.   Future elections will be different and the GOP needs to adapt to win again, with or without Donald J. Trump.

You mean the suddenly revised numbers that changed the number of lost NY House seats from 2 to 1 and changed the number of Floriduh House gains from 2 to 1 as well?

Explain why the 2020 Census was not allowed to inquire about the citizenship of the respondents.  (This will be good).

Why should any AMERICAN trust ANYTHING the Rodent corrupted government has to say?
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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2021, 10:51:55 pm »
Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

Implies each state Legislature may prescribe how its Electors are chosen, but there would need to be state constitutional provision, established state law, or state supreme court ruling to prescribe that the state legislature could sumarily nullify that state's (popular) selection of electors that would survive state legal scrutiny and ajudication.

State courts ajudicate the criminality of acts, not legislatures.

Slaves, not considered to be free citizens in slave states, were fractionally counted towards apportionment.  For some time, the Constitution precribed that non-citizens (slaves) were counted as 3/5 person towards apportionment.  Also, before 1920, women did not have the right to vote in Federal elections, but were counted towards apportionment.  Children, ineligible to vote, still count towards apportionment.  It would probably take an Amendment to the Constitution to limit apportionment counts to legal US citizens or residents.

If it is said that the 2020 election was stolen, same could be said of the 2000 and 2016 elections, both of which made a Republican President.

2020 is in the rear view mirror.  2022, 2024 are in front of us.  North Carolina, Florida, Texas, and Montana are Republican leaning states that gained House seats.  Democratic and swing states lost seats.

Economic principle of opportunity cost means that effort expended re-litigating the 2020 election takes resources away from winning the 2022 and 2024 elections.

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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2021, 07:18:17 am »
Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

Implies each state Legislature may prescribe how its Electors are chosen, but there would need to be state constitutional provision, established state law, or state supreme court ruling to prescribe that the state legislature could sumarily nullify that state's (popular) selection of electors that would survive state legal scrutiny and ajudication.

Implies no such thing.

The Constitution STATES the LEGISLATURE shall choose the method of selecting the Electors.

Is a state's Secretary of State a part of the LEGISLATURE?   No.  That office is part of the Executive branch of the state.

Is the state's courts or the federal courts part of the state's LEGISLATURE?  No.  Those offices are part of the judiciary.

Did your high school teach American civics while you attended?

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State courts ajudicate the criminality of acts, not legislatures.

Good for them.

They're not LEGISLATURES.   The Constitution of the United States is written in words.  Words MEAN things.   Words don't mean what they don't mean.  What they don't mean here is any implication that the judicial or executive branches get to rewrite how the LEGISLATURE cast it's election laws.

It takes an act of the legislature to make a Constitutionally valid alteration to the selection process for federal electors.

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Slaves, not considered to be free citizens in slave states, were fractionally counted towards apportionment.  For some time, the Constitution precribed that non-citizens (slaves) were counted as 3/5 person towards apportionment.  Also, before 1920, women did not have the right to vote in Federal elections, but were counted towards apportionment.  Children, ineligible to vote, still count towards apportionment.  It would probably take an Amendment to the Constitution to limit apportionment counts to legal US citizens or residents.

Oh.

Were those changes made by some podunk local state justice of the peace, or were they altered by ratified Constitutional Amendments, following a process defined using words in the Constitution of the United States?

The Romans shouted down some fool's idea that slaves should wear different clothes than citizens.   A dangerous idea and the Senators did not want the slaves to know how hugely they outnumbered the citizens.

The Rodents shouted down the effort to count the Invaders in the US because they've relied on that stupid 11 megaMex number for more than 30 years now, and they don't want the sheeple to know how many invaders are taking over the country.

And, naturally, once the Americans had a firm number on how many invaders were in the country, it's certain they'd demand that the Invaders not be counted towards apportionment, because, as sure as Epstein didn't kill himself, Invaders do not deserve representation.    And the friggin' ORIGINAL INTENT of the Founders would certainly bear that claim solidly.

So lets count their asses and take it to the courts.

 

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If it is said that the 2020 election was stolen, same could be said of the 2000 and 2016 elections, both of which made a Republican President.

He's on drugs.

Albore lost because he's stupid and because Ralphie Nader took thousands of votes from his dumb ass in Floriduh, when heh needed only 600.

President Trump won both elections fairly, with the Rodents running a drunken planking totally corrupt harridan in the one election and a totally corrupt senile old fool in the last one.

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2020 is in the rear view mirror.  2022, 2024 are in front of us.  North Carolina, Florida, Texas, and Montana are Republican leaning states that gained House seats.  Democratic and swing states lost seats.

Funny how the sudden revisions from the Rodent controlled census lessened the impact of true population shifts, isn't it?

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Economic principle of opportunity cost means that effort expended re-litigating the 2020 election takes resources away from winning the 2022 and 2024 elections.

So we should let the bank robbers keep the loot because it costs to much to prosecute and incarcerate.

Rodents are so generous to give away MY freedoms like that.

The Census needs to be audited.   I know for a fact no Census form was returned from my address.  I threw it in the fire place.  Nor did the Rodent come knocking or calling to check up.
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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2021, 12:52:13 pm »
All the corruption that is emerging is oozing out of various Trump orifices.

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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2021, 01:50:00 pm »
All the corruption that is emerging is oozing out of various Trump orifices.
Just like the hate you have for the man and his supporters oozes from your's.

Not a pretty sight.

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Re: Trump: “More Corruption Found” in Election since January
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2021, 03:53:25 pm »
All the corruption that is emerging is oozing out of various Trump orifices.

Says the one leaving slime trails all over the forum.