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Offline libertybele

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It's so disappointing that Barack "The Magic Negro" Obama didn't solve that problem during the eight years Joe was his faithful and obedient VP.

Nope, he took race relations back about 50 years, Trump made some headway in bringing races together and the DEMS have pitted race against race I think beyond repair.
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Hmm......the core premise of the Natural Law is that the Family Unit of Father, Mother
and Children has been the foundation for all cultures/societies since Eden. As such,
it is the obligation/responsibility of Man to adhere to this Principle by behaving in a
manner that protects the Family Unit.
Sanctimonious sob stories are zero defense for failure to do so.

I will second that... And the condition of a society - How far it has fallen from that prescription, describes Man's proscription. Those who are so quick to tell folks to turn the channel if they dont like it are the same ones tearing society to pieces... They just don't know it.

What ANY society is *FOR* is simply put, a safe place for women suitable for rearing children.

That is not what we have anymore. This society preys on women and children. Its intention is to weaken the marital bed, and to encourage 'free' sex in the youth - at an ever decreasing age.

This is descent into sin, and nothing else.

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You are right that the vast majority of people are responsible for where they are in life, but I think you underestimate the number who have been dealt such a horrible start in life that blaming them for their state is unfair. 

Unfortunately, the world visits the sins of the parents on their children:  meth babies, crack babies, children born with fetal alcohol syndrome, children abused as children who adopt the treatment they received as the norm of human behavior, children raise even by non-abusive parents who do not manage to model virtues then mis-educated by state schools that by design do not inculcate virtue, children given no sense of love or belonging until they encounter a gang which they promptly join,... Add to them the mentally retarded, severely autistic, and everyone else with biologically based debilitating mental or physical conditions, and I'm afraid they make up a bit more then 1% of the population.
Sure, there's a certain percentage of people who are victims of the horrible choices of their parents.
How many/what percentage of underachievers do you think that is?
I'd say the great, overwhelming majority of people are victims of themselves, if you want to put it that way.
At some point in life, if you live long enough, you should recognize what is the right thing to do and what is the wrong thing to do.
Nevertheless, when I read stories about thugs who get themselves shot and killed by the police, I don't take the time to inquire about their upbringings.
I've read two stories recently about two white thugs getting themselves shot and killed by the cops in the Twin Cities area. Maybe they had bad upbringings. Maybe their parents were on dope and screwed up their sprogs.
I don't care, they committed serious crimes, and they paid the ultimate price.
It should be pretty obvious to black males that resisting arrest and putting up a violent struggle very often leads to bad outcomes for them.
But they continue to those things that get them killed while obeying the police would have allowed them to live.
Too many black males are out of control and have to be stepped on hard....for their own good and for the good of society.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2021, 11:10:35 pm by goatprairie »

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I could be wrong(nothing new) but I am pretty darn sure that Blacks overall were doing quite well, educating themselves, working at good paying jobs and probably most importantly a well defined nuclear family system, until that is the democrats under LBJ destroyed it all with their Great Society.

Now once again a 'benevolent' democrat, one that formerly worked very hard to help them by passing laws to put more of them in prison and for longer sentences is there to help them again by making decisions for them, the children that they are, like banning menthol cigarettes and telling them how backward and disenfranchised they are. All of course because they need the benevolence of their modern slave master to make decisions for them just like their old slave masters.

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Black "culture" has been devolving since the late 60s/early 70s.

It's true that there is a "talented 10" (percent) or so of blacks who are far enough up the Bell Curve to perceive that it's in their interests to "live within" the white (what was once called "mainstream") culture somewhat, or at least not to fight it. They do well enough to quite well indeed.

But there remains the 75-80% or so (or perhaps even higher now) of blacks who are born in "non-family" environments -- by "non-family" I mean without any traditional family structure for multiple generations now. To them, there is no concept of "a traditional family" and it's probably not coming back. At the same time, education is ridiculed (that's for the white people), and thug behavior is exemplified as stylish and desirable.

And the black thug culture continues to worsen. All one has to do is read the news about the randomness and brutality of black attacks against whites (and Asians) to see where that's going.

I said this before, I'll say it again (you can throw all the rocks you wish):
Many (if not most) blacks were doing better under Jim Crow than they are today.
By that, I mean:
- Relatively stable families with two parents at home
- Relatively low out-of-wedlock births (black rates for this were always higher than white rates)
- Lower usage of drugs (probably MUCH lower)
- Less chance of criminal behavior
- Basic education that was probably better than most inner-city black kids get today

So long as the black thug culture goes the way it's goin', these benchmarks of stability are never coming back for them.
I recall the time you speak of, and concur.
Aside from being 'respectable' in demeanor, deportment and appearance (which included marriage and not having babies out of wedlock--just like white folks), the push was to become educated, be it as a professional or tradesman, and to excel in your chosen field. Having a solid reputation in both black and white communities was considered desirable. Avoidance of criminality was part and parcel of that.

That the individual might have to do significantly better than his or her counterparts in order to receive credit where credit was due was not fair, but understood, by those who were up to the challenge. For many, it was an uphill climb, (and it was for many poor whites from the 'wrong side of the tracks', too, and remains so). But those were the pathfinders who paved the way for better successes in the workplace just as equal opportunity programs removed the need for excellence, and replaced it with a quota system that essentially wiped out the accomplishments of those who had not yet been recognized as having achieved their positions on merit. Between that, and welfare for all who would just kick that "worthless ol' man' out so they could get their food stamps and subsidized housing and Medicaid and more, the destruction of the family and society might be characterized as an unintended consequence, or perhaps something more sinister. The erosion of the middle class, polarizing society into the very wealthy and those barely scraping by or dependent on the great teat is all part and parcel of Marxist aims, and without that destruction of the middle class, there is no intermediate step for the poor to aspire to. It is no accident that the Democrat Party has devolved into the socialist stock from which the current adaptive radiation of aspiring totalitarians has sprung.
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It's true that 10 percent of blacks are far enough up the Bell Curve to perceive it's in their
interest to live within white culture or at least not to fight it.
But there remains the 75-80% or so of blacks who are born in "non-family" environments, by "non-family", meaning without any traditional family structure for multiple generations.
To them, there is no concept of a traditional family and it's probably not coming back.
At the same time, education is ridiculed as for white people and thug behavior is
exemplified as stylish and desirable.
And the black thug culture continues to worsen. All one has to do is read the news about the randomness and brutality of black attacks against whites and Asians to see where that's going.
I said this before, I'll say it again:
Many, if not most blacks were doing better under Jim Crow than they are today, meaning:
- Relatively stable families with two parents at home
- Relatively low out-of-wedlock births (black rates were always higher than whites)
- Lower usage of drugs.
- Less chance of criminal behavior.
- Basic education that was probably better than most inner-city black kids get today.
So long as the black thug culture goes the way it's goin', these benchmarks of stability are never coming back for them.
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Very well done Fisherman.
Blacks have been going in another direction for tens of thousands of years and are incapable of change for a core reason.
White culture/society, birthed in the Mediterranean/Middle East, was anchored by Individualism, the catalyst driving its creativity and innovation.
In stark contrast, Black culture/society, birthed in Africa was anchored by Tribalism,
group think viscerally hostile to competitive ideas.
The consequences of these radically divergent attitudes and behaviors are self-evident
in the record of history since the Garden of Eden.
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Its well known the democrats replaced the Father figure in the family, replaced by government that finances the family, all that's then needed is for men to be sperm donors and a great many women are perfectly happy with that, changing bed mates became so much easier.
 LBJ's great society wherein he stated; We'll own those n____rs for two hundred years. 
What a damn shame you can't quote an American President in the exact words that spoke publicly.  Freedom of speech is p.c. restricted now, its only partially free speech now due to political correctness.  Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Very well done Fisherman.
Blacks have been going in another direction for tens of thousands of years and are incapable of change for a core reason.
White culture/society, birthed in the Mediterranean/Middle East, was anchored by Individualism, the catalyst driving its creativity and innovation.
In stark contrast, Black culture/society, birthed in Africa was anchored by Tribalism,
group think viscerally hostile to competitive ideas.
The consequences of these radically divergent attitudes and behaviors are self-evident
in the record of history since the Garden of Eden.
Not exactly. Individualism is a valued aspect in the tribes of Europe, who have advanced significantly technologically, all trying to best one another.
The idea that there is no intertribal conflict among caucasians is proven erroneous, from the Goths and Visigoths to the Vandals sacking Rome, to the intertribal conflicts that included everything from Viking Raids, to Hastings, to WWII and the present day. It is just that groupthink has not been an effective adaptation among the European (and other caucasian) tribes compared to utilizing the relative genius of a few to give the tribe an edge, and fostering individuality to an advantage in conflict, whether martial or economic.

Humans are Tribal creatures, it is just that America has (had?) become a tribe all its own until the purveyors of division more recently fomented the most recent split. Even then, we have had our internal divisions, just less on lines based on blood lineage than politics. 
When the great tribe fragments, we'll be back to a more historically normal normal, just with more diverse (genetically speaking) groups based on philosophy and geography.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 05:45:11 am by Smokin Joe »
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis