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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2021, 03:39:06 am »
Personally, I don't have a problem with reducing the filibuster to 55 votes.  Throughout our history, it has been utilized almost exclusively by Democrats.  When Republicans hold over 40 seats, they already give Democrats everything they want 95% of the time.  Just look at what they handed Obama without a fight for eight years.

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The GOP at the federal level is a sham.

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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2021, 03:40:07 am »
Funny how Democrats wanted to keep the filibuster through the first two-thirds of the 20th century when Republicans were pushing civil rights legislation guaranteeing equality for African-Americans.

Democrats are hypocritical ?

Color me shocked.

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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2021, 10:25:29 pm »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/21/kyrsten-sinema-filibuster-for-the-people-act/

I like her.

She's smarter than virtually all other Rats in the Senate.  She understands clearly that the Democrats will not always have a majority, and the Republicans will punish the Dems when they get back in power when they pull this sort of crap.  It's how the world works, and not even Harry Reid understood this simple, and blindingly obvious fact.
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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2021, 10:48:08 pm »
She's smarter than virtually all other Rats in the Senate. 

That's not saying much. 

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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2021, 10:51:03 pm »
That's not saying much.

Well, yeah.  If she were really smart she'd be a Republican.  :smokin:

But understanding the simple phrase "What goes around, comes around" is a good step.  A journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step.

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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2021, 03:42:15 pm »
It's how the world works, and not even Harry Reid understood this simple, and blindingly obvious fact.

I saw what you did there and I approve of it!
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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2021, 10:43:32 pm »
— HER GOP CHARM OFFENSIVE: Sinema doesn’t really fit in with Democrats. She’s been known to skip party lunches and votes and even missed VP KAMALA HARRIS’ dinner with female senators this week. (Her staff said it was because Sinema broke her foot.) All the while she’s been on a charm offensive with Republicans, many of whom adore her. They say they can trust her, that she keeps her word.

“I think Sen. Sinema is comfortable with who she is,” Sen. DEB FISCHER (R-Neb.) told Playbook. The two senators have become close friends and regularly have dinner together, most recently two weeks ago at Charlie Palmer with Sens. SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO (R-W.Va.) and CYNTHIA LUMMIS (R-Wyo.).

“She is certainly willing to step in in a needed way to bring people together, and she does go her own way. I would say she’s probably similar to McCain in that way. They’re willing to take the slings and arrows from their own side when they’re trying to accomplish something.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/06/18/i-want-to-be-the-next-john-mccain-493299

On the one hand it is good she'll work with the GOP.

On the other.....I would hate to see another McStain show up.

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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2021, 04:20:16 pm »
They are still coming after Sinema. 

The left that is.

Great that Arizona has a Maverick who telling her own party to shove off.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/10/09/kyrsten-sinema-sets-the-build-back-better-agenda-on-fire-and-infuriates-the-left-n454195

She wants to pull 100 million from the bills that have  to do with "green" stuff.

If the social media response is any indication, Sinema’s move is infuriating the left. Again, climate change is a religious institution for these people. They truly believe they are the saviors of the world and just need your money to deliver redemption. You can expect some very hot takes on the Sunday shows tomorrow.
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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2021, 04:29:08 pm »
I saw what you did there and I approve of it!
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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2021, 04:38:39 pm »
Not sure why Manchin or Sinema would cross over to the GOP when 11 GOP Senators voted Schumer's way on the debt ceiling.  What does the GOP stand for?
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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2021, 05:23:33 pm »
Not sure why Manchin or Sinema would cross over to the GOP when 11 GOP Senators voted Schumer's way on the debt ceiling.  What does the GOP stand for?

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Re: Manchin And Sinema Deserve Our Support On the Filibuster
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2021, 06:20:59 pm »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/21/politics/sinema-veterans-quit-advisory-board/index.html

Five military veterans on Sen. Kyrsten Sinema's advisory board resigned from their roles this week, slamming the Arizona Democrat as one of the "principal obstacles to progress."

In a letter to Sinema, the veterans expressed frustration with her refusal to change the Senate filibuster to protect voting rights, failure to support prescription drug negotiations, her opposition to parts of the Democrats' sweeping budget reconciliation package that make up President Joe Biden's agenda and criticized her for not voting on the January 6 commission.
"You have become one of the principal obstacles to progress, answering to big donors rather than your own people," the veterans wrote. "We shouldn't have to buy representation from you, and your failure to stand by your people and see their urgent needs is alarming."

"We do not know who has your ear, but it clearly isn't us or your constituents," they added.

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She's going to have to go indy.

She's holding the line that our bleep GOP leadership has lost it's ability to do.