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CDC: Almost 400 reports of heart inflammation in children after Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine

SHARYL ATTKISSON   |   JULY 30, 2021


The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has published the most extensive statistics yet involving reports of adverse events among children who received Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine.

According to CDC, there were about 400 cases of myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle, reported in young people aged 12-17 after the Pfizer-BioNTech shot as of July 16.

According to the data, about 8.9 million children aged 12-17 had gotten the Pfizer-BioNTech shot as of July 16.  .  .  .

CDC Report

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/07/cdc-almost-400-reports-of-heart-inflammation-in-children-after-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine/



Still can't believe we are experimenting on children.  With zero compensation to test subjects, and the government is funding it all.
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Ok, so obviously myocarditis isn't just a random occurrence -- 400 is not just a coincidence!  Endocarditis has been reported as well.

The damn vaccines are destroying lives and killing people.  SO why the continued push for vaccines that don't work and above all why are they vaccinating our youth??   9999hair out0000
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Ok, so obviously myocarditis isn't just a random occurrence -- 400 is not just a coincidence!  Endocarditis has been reported as well.

The damn vaccines are destroying lives and killing people.  SO why the continued push for vaccines that don't work and above all why are they vaccinating our youth??   9999hair out0000

Exactly.  There is NO valid reason to push these shots on anyone, yet alone children.  Evil is spreading, quickly.

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Rounding up a little, .0045%.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Ok, so obviously myocarditis isn't just a random occurrence -- 400 is not just a coincidence!  Endocarditis has been reported as well.

The damn vaccines are destroying lives and killing people.  SO why the continued push for vaccines that don't work and above all why are they vaccinating our youth??   9999hair out0000
They are vaccinating our youth so the minions of the Indoctrinators Union don't have "to worry" about all those little virus vectors getting them sick if they ever have to actually teach them face to face.
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SO why the continued push for vaccines that don't work and above all why are they vaccinating our youth??   9999hair out0000
Desperation. This was the last resort, this is what was promised to America for over a year: get half of America vaccinated, and herd immunity will eventually kick in and we'll lift the restrictions and go back to normal.

Well, we did that, and the virus is still spreading. Note how the CDC is messaging it as "the war has changed." They got us into a war we cannot win and, if we are honest with ourselves, have already lost. There's no other way around it: we don't have the tools to beat this virus, because they don't exist. Half of Florida is vaccinated and they're even worse off than last year. The pattern of infection compared to last year is almost exactly the same, except even more amplified. You could never tell that half the country is vaccinated by the numbers.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has one job: to prevent and control the spread of disease. They have proven themselves incapable of doing that, and there must be grave consequences. When your only solutions are to infringe on the right to assemble and to forcibly cover people's faces even after it's proven to be ineffective, the CDC needs to be abolished.
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Now, what percentage of children who catch COVID have heart inflammation as a symptom?  And what is the background incidence of this type of heart inflammation in this age cohort?  Without data, reporting this is not really meaningful. 

In the case of the blood clotting associated with the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, the incidence of the abnormal clotting was about 1 in a million, while the incidence of the same abnormal clotting in people who caught COVID was 20 in a million, so even if one only cared about abnormal clotting and ignored the other harmful effects of contracting COVID which the vaccine also prevented, rational risk assessment would support getting the vaccine.
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Now, what percentage of children who catch COVID have heart inflammation as a symptom?  And what is the background incidence of this type of heart inflammation in this age cohort?  Without data, reporting this is not really meaningful. 

In the case of the blood clotting associated with the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, the incidence of the abnormal clotting was about 1 in a million, while the incidence of the same abnormal clotting in people who caught COVID was 20 in a million, so even if one only cared about abnormal clotting and ignored the other harmful effects of contracting COVID which the vaccine also prevented, rational risk assessment would support getting the vaccine.

???? Does it matter?  400 is too many.  Vaccinating kids is problematic in my books, especially since we were told for months that our youth were not susceptible to getting COVID.  So why the vaccinations??
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Rounding up a little, .0045%.

I'm sure that the parents will be glad to know that their kids are statistically insignificant.
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Now, what percentage of children who catch COVID have heart inflammation as a symptom?  And what is the background incidence of this type of heart inflammation in this age cohort?  Without data, reporting this is not really meaningful. 

In the case of the blood clotting associated with the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, the incidence of the abnormal clotting was about 1 in a million, while the incidence of the same abnormal clotting in people who caught COVID was 20 in a million, so even if one only cared about abnormal clotting and ignored the other harmful effects of contracting COVID which the vaccine also prevented, rational risk assessment would support getting the vaccine.
I would think that such a condition is exceptionally rare.

The blood clot issue, indeed within context, was overblown—and I am wondering why Johnson and Johnson hasn't run tests on or requested EUA for those younger than 18 since the technology seems to have a lower overall risk profile than the mRNA shots (plus, with kids at least somewhat less susceptible than adults, the single dose would be more likely to suffice for them anyway). Novavax also uses a non-mRNA technology but as far as I know their research is also focused mainly on adults.

But it's exceptionally rare to have children suddenly develop a heart condition at that age. Relying solely on an mRNA shot like Pfizer's to cover children was a bad idea, given the higher overall adverse effect profile.
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I'm sure that the parents will be glad to know that their kids are statistically insignificant.

Exactly!
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I would think that such a condition is exceptionally rare.

In the background population you are probably right, but that should be stated to put the statistic in context.  On the other hand, what if the rate of heart inflammation in 12 to 17 year olds who catch COVID were 1 in 5000.  Were that the case, the vaccine cut the chance of getting the heart inflammation by a factor of 4 along with preventing all the other morbidities associated with COVID.  But we don't know, since all we're given is the rate of a particular side-effect of the vaccination without any context to make it a meaningful statistic.

Without that context this is an instance of the sort of statistics referred to by Mark Twain's dictum "Lies, damned lies and statistics"
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Desperation. This was the last resort, this is what was promised to America for over a year: get half of America vaccinated, and herd immunity will eventually kick in and we'll lift the restrictions and go back to normal.

Well, we did that, and the virus is still spreading. Note how the CDC is messaging it as "the war has changed." They got us into a war we cannot win and, if we are honest with ourselves, have already lost. There's no other way around it: we don't have the tools to beat this virus, because they don't exist. Half of Florida is vaccinated and they're even worse off than last year. The pattern of infection compared to last year is almost exactly the same, except even more amplified. You could never tell that half the country is vaccinated by the numbers.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has one job: to prevent and control the spread of disease. They have proven themselves incapable of doing that, and there must be grave consequences. When your only solutions are to infringe on the right to assemble and to forcibly cover people's faces even after it's proven to be ineffective, the CDC needs to be abolished.

Just two weeks to flatten the curve...

The only curve that flatlined was the economy.
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I'm sure that the parents will be glad to know that their kids are statistically insignificant.

I did not say those youths are insignificant. Don't try to put words in my mouth and don't try to guilt-trip away reality. @Ghost Bear, @libertybele

In this real world there is no perfect safety. That .0045% is about the same rate of myocarditis as in the general population. Pfizer's vaccine is no riskier for myocarditis than simply being alive.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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I did not say those youths are insignificant. Don't try to put words in my mouth and don't try to guilt-trip away reality. @Ghost Bear, @libertybele

In this real world there is no perfect safety. That .0045% is about the same rate of myocarditis as in the general population. Pfizer's vaccine is no riskier for myocarditis than simply being alive.
Not really a valid comparison. The general population has a lot of folks considerably older than the kids.

Even the CDC describes it as "an elevated risk", which means that for the purposes of study, the difference is statistically significant. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7027e2.htm
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