Biden to announce up to $4 trillion infrastructure plan with massive tax hikes

[roamer_1]

   Whoa there @roamer_1 that big tent allows us space for the adorables and the gays.  It's political suicide to disclude (sic) them?     /s

So they tell me. 

So throw out the Bible folks, The libertarians, and the fiscally minded, and let them in then. I'll just be over here with them. 

[roamer_1]

To refuse to choose is a choice, in and of itself. 

INDEED it is - I choose NOT to vote for 'lesser evil' I will abstain.

If all I have to choose from is a sh*t sandwich or a turd burger, I WILL say, "none for me thanks," and wander down the street to find a nice deli.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Then you are contradicting yourself.

 

Nope, there is no country, no constitution, no citizenry if people do not vote, which is the constitutional duty of every citizen.

It is the morality of the Constitution's foundational principles.  Freedom requires action, not complacency.

Is one free to not vote?  Sure, but that does not change the fact that if all did the same, the republic no longer exists.

[roamer_1]

Nope, there is no country, no constitution, no citizenry if people do not vote, which is the constitutional duty of every citizen.

It is the morality of the Constitution's foundational principles.  Freedom requires action, not complacency.

Is one free to not vote?  Sure, but that does not change the fact that if all did the same, the republic no longer exists.

And if the country continues to vote for the lesser evil the republic will fail as well. That writing is on the wall.

[Right_in_Virginia]

You are entirely wrong in your assessment @Right_in_Virginia  The reason I will hold out is precisely right though.

My assessment is not wrong @roamer_1  We all agree on the principles of conservatism.  And no, the reason you hold out is not precisely right.  You're holding out for the purist who will lose gracefully while protecting the principles and keeping them in pristine condition.  Tour tagline could be:  "Better to lose than defile the principles".

I think yours is a senseless strategy.  Is it good for the pulpit?  Yes.  Good for the classroom and book clubs?  Yes and yes.   Good for the blood sport of politics?  No.  Good for the times in which we live?  Hell, no.

I think you are custom built for the pulpit or the classroom.  But if I had a magic wand, I'd remove you from the political arena with one tap. 

Our political enemy took every inch they could beg, borrow or steal.  They didn't care it took a generation to amass the power to install a fraudulent president in plain sight.  They are now strong enough to completely shred the Constitution, unravel our representative republic and void our inheritance of freedom.

And still you wait.  Yet, my concern is not that you are waiting.  What troubles me is you are here trying to pull people away from active duty to serve with you in the reserves. 

Your wait-for-it "strategery" is more than a luxury we cannot afford; it is now a looming obstacle to moving this country from the brink of total destruction.

I find no righteousness in your plan.

[skeeter]

And if the country continues to vote for the lesser evil the republic will fail as well. That writing is on the wall.

and for all that the ‘lesser evil’ would’ve maintained a secure border. The ‘lesser evil’ would’ve maintained $3 per gallon gas. There would be no political litmus tests or taxpayer funded gender reassignment for confused soldiers in the military, no mandatory critical race theory seminars for government employees, no growing federal persecution of political dissenters if the ‘lesser evil’ were still in the White House. Our most likely enemy wouldn’t be sh*ting on our SoS if the ‘lesser evil’ were still in the White House.

[roamer_1]

My assessment is not wrong @roamer_1  We all agree on the principles of conservatism.

@Right_in_Virginia
No, I don't think we do... How many times have I had to explain them for you?

And no, the reason you hold out is not precisely right.  You're holding out for the purist who will lose gracefully while protecting the principles and keeping them in pristine condition.  Tour tagline could be:  "Better to lose than defile the principles".

So you know my own mind better than I do, eh? To defile those principles MEANS you have thrown a Conservative faction UNDER THE BUS. That is what it plainly means. And the only way to preserve the Conservative coalition - The only way to actually make gains- is to stand with those you would throw under the bus. You do it to them, you do it to me. THAT IS CONSERVATISM. THAT IS the Conservative Coalition. To be Conservative, there is nothing else.

I think yours is a senseless strategy.  Is it good for the pulpit?  Yes.  Good for the classroom and book clubs?  Yes and yes.   Good for the blood sport of politics?  No.  Good for the times in which we live?  Hell, no.

Time has proven you utterly incorrect. Even your prince could do NOTHING because his own party fought him tooth and nail - That is the product of the lesser evil. That is the product of your strategy... And that is why Republicans have not won a single issue in my lifetime.

Sooner or later you should come to the conclusion that you should not keep doing the same damn thing expecting different results.

I think you are custom built for the pulpit or the classroom.  But if I had a magic wand, I'd remove you from the political arena with one tap. 

Our political enemy took every inch they could beg, borrow or steal.  They didn't care it took a generation to amass the power to install a fraudulent president in plain sight.  They are now strong enough to completely shred the Constitution, unravel our representative republic and void our inheritance of freedom.

Because y'all LET THEM. Don't forget that part. That did not happen in a vacuum. Y'ALL LET THEM. They had no opposition.

And THAT should be your focus. But it is not. Y'all keep chasing after miracle princes and voting in lesser evil. Surely it will work THIS TIME... Here is a clue: It won't work, it has NEVER worked. But you go ahead and keep being you.

And still you wait.  Yet, my concern is not that you are waiting.  What troubles me is you are here trying to pull people away from active duty to serve with you in the reserves.

I am not waiting. I am OPPOSED to you. You're kind has left us without remedy, and STILL you go on. You are fixing NOTHING. And  you distract folks from where the fight really IS. Which is within the RIGHT. Your 'lesser evil will win' has decimated any opposition to exactly what the left is doing. The right is BECOMING the left, and you cheer.

That is NOT winning.

Your wait-for-it "strategery" is more than a luxury we cannot afford; it is now a looming obstacle to moving this country from the brink of total destruction.

I find no righteousness in your plan.

I am not waiting for anything. Like I said, I am in opposition to ALL that is not Conservative. I see no difference between your movement and the left. Both are big-government. Either will enslave us.

[roamer_1]

and for all that the ‘lesser evil’ would’ve maintained a secure border. The ‘lesser evil’ would’ve maintained $3 per gallon gas. There would be no political litmus tests or taxpayer funded gender reassignment for confused soldiers in the military, no mandatory critical race theory seminars for government employees, no growing federal persecution of political dissenters if the ‘lesser evil’ were still in the White House. Our most likely enemy wouldn’t be sh*ting on our SoS if the ‘lesser evil’ were still in the White House.

NO, IT WOULD NOT. You might have got four more years, but this day was coming anyway.

That is why candy from the front of the parade does you no good. Sooner or later you will be hungry and miss the meat and potatoes (which is LAW) that you could have and should have had.

Now all the candy is gone. What is left? Nothing, that's what. And it has happened EVERY time since Reagan.
EOs for the dumass Conservatives and liberal law to move soul of the country. Happened just like that under GHWB, and Dubya, AND TUMP.

You ain't just getting some candy - you are losing your heritage for that candy.

[skeeter]

NO, IT WOULD NOT. You might have got four more years, but this day was coming anyway.

That is why candy from the front of the parade does you no good. Sooner or later you will be hungry and miss the meat and potatoes (which is LAW) that you could have and should have had.

Now all the candy is gone. What is left? Nothing, that's what. And it has happened EVERY time since Reagan.
EOs for the dumass Conservatives and liberal law to move soul of the country. Happened just like that under GHWB, and Dubya, AND TUMP.

You ain't just getting some candy - you are losing your heritage for that candy.

YES it would have. For another four years. Instead we get nothing.

Four years vs. nothing. I’ll take the four years.

[roamer_1]

YES it would have. For another four years. Instead we get nothing.

Four years vs. nothing. I’ll take the four years.

Sure... and lose more of your heritage to liberal laws passed by YOUR TEAM.
Yeah, that's good thinking.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

I find no honor, integrity or righteousness in your strategy.  I simply cannot reconcile how a soul can love this country and recruit others to do nothing while it is destroyed.

I concede this is your right @roamer_1   --- but, I am not going to change my mind.  So, it's best we end it here. 

[skeeter]

Sure... and lose more of your heritage to liberal laws passed by YOUR TEAM.
Yeah, that's good thinking.

And, as I’ve said many times before, you offer NO workable alternative.

[roamer_1]

I find no honor, integrity or righteousness in your strategy.  I simply cannot reconcile how a soul can love this country and recruit others to do nothing while it is destroyed.

I concede this is your right @roamer_1   --- but, I am not going to change my mind.  So, it's best we end it here.

@Right_in_Virginia

I am not doing nothing. I am opposing YOU. Y'all have left the Right in tatters, with no identity. with no purpose other than to follow your prince. The litmus test is not whether a candidate is Conservative or not. The litmus is whether that candidate will bow to Tumpy and kiss his ring.

THAT is NOT Conservatism. And it is abhorrent to me.

And in the mean time, the very things that DEFINE Conservatism are defamed as 'purist' so y'all can continue to promote 'lesser evil'. That too is abhorrent to me.

And you speak to me of honor, integrity, and righteousness... As if yours is the defender of such.
LOL!

[roamer_1]

And, as I’ve said many times before, you offer NO workable alternative.

Yes I do. I offer the only workable alternative. The only one that has historically worked.
Do NOT vote for lesser evil. Insist upon Conservatism.
Do not listen to pretty promises - Look at the record.

Vote ONLY for Conservatives and you will get Conservatism.
How you think you will get it otherwise is entirely beyond me.

[DB]

And, as I’ve said many times before, you offer NO workable alternative.

It is the ONLY alternative that will work. But only when enough people have the courage to do it. And there lies the heart of the problem.

Otherwise the slide continues as should be well evidenced decade after decade... They own your vote as long as whatever they do is a little less destructive to you than what the other side is doing. Destruction is the still the path taken.

[roamer_1]

It is the ONLY alternative that will work. But only when enough people have the courage to do it. And there lies the heart of the problem.

Otherwise the slide continues as should be well evidenced decade after decade... They own your vote as long as whatever they do is a little less destructive to you than what the other side is doing. Destruction is the still the path taken.

SURELY you get MORE of what you vote FOR...

What Republicans vote *for* is self-evident.

[sneakypete]

Do these tax hikes include tax hikes for people who have "no show" board seats on foreign corporate boards that pay them millions each year to do nothing but be related to an American career criminal/politician?

[sneakypete]

The doddering dolt is coming to Pittsburgh to announce this boondoggle. I guess the usual unions will be represented, as they're the only ones who might benefit.

@mountaineer

Any union member that wants to keep his or her job is going to be there.

[sneakypete]

Frankly, I hope they raise taxes. They can't keep borrowing like this.But the tax hike won't be received positively of course.

@mikezpen

Nah,the Dims never worry about tax hikes.

They just spend the money,and then rely on the Republicans who are elected to replace them to raise taxes to pay for the Dim promises.

That way the Dims look like the heroes to the perpetually clueless voters,and the Republicans look like the greedy capitalists who want to "steal the working man's paycheck" to pay for it all.

[sneakypete]

Biden will today announce 7% corporate tax hike to 28% - the largest jump since the 90s 
   

@mystery-ak

Just ONCE,I would like to hear someone from the mainstream media ask one of these clowns "Do you understand that only people pay taxes,and corporations are NOT people?"

[sneakypete]

Total US income in 2019 (last year for which it has been calculated) was $18.6 Trillion.

$4 trillion = 21.5% of our total income. That would be in addition to the income taxes we are already paying... well, that half of us are paying.

$4 trillion divided by $143 million taxpayers last year = @$28,000 per taxpayer.

Average married couple tax increase = $56,000 divided by 10 years = $5,600 each year, on average.   

If they try to focus this on the top 10% of taxpayers (which they will), then the effect will be devastating for those who produce the most, and who create nearly all the new jobs.

Increases in corporate taxes will be passed along to consumers as well, increasing the cost of goods and services in regressive fashion, so that those with the lowest incomes will be hardest hit.

Pure socialism.

@andy58-in-nh

They may be clueless,but even THEY know this,and it is the base on which their plan to take over America and turn it into one more "workers paradise" is based on.

They will never take over America until we are bankrupt,and they know it. That IS why they keep trying to do this.

[sneakypete]

Wow, a 33% corporate tax increase.

@thackney

Not a problem. The corporations will just shut down plants in the US,and move them to China,meaning Pelosi,Biden,and the others will recieve bonus deposits in their off-shore accounts from their Chinese masters.

[bigheadfred]

These days, conservatism and politics don't mix.

[catfish1957]

@mikezpen

Nah,the Dims never worry about tax hikes.

They just spend the money,and then rely on the Republicans who are elected to replace them to raise taxes to pay for the Dim promises.

That way the Dims look like the heroes to the perpetually clueless voters,and the Republicans look like the greedy capitalists who want to "steal the working man's paycheck" to pay for it all.

The Biden/Yellen clown show doesn't realize that their latest foray into socialism is going to run off the last bit of industrial base this country has left.  Anyone with a half a brain realizes how long a society that is "service economy only" lasts. 

[sneakypete]

The Biden/Yellen clown show doesn't realize that their latest foray into socialism is going to run off the last bit of industrial base this country has left.  Anyone with a half a brain realizes how long a society that is "service economy only" lasts.

@catfish1957

Of course they know this. They just don't give a squat as long as the deposit receipts in their foreign bank accounts keep showing up.

They are "Serving their country" in another sense than the one most commonly accepted.

The truth is they care nothing about no one but themselves,and this includes most of their own family members,who serve as their bagmen and take any of the blowback.

"Whut? Yew mean Hunter/Caroline/Hillary was raking in millions from selling mah gud name? Why ah nevah!"