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And once again, false info (or just flat out lies). Roy also denied it occurred. Also there was no evidence it was anything other than lies. Years later, still NO proof it was anything other than lies. Next year there will no proof, and the year after that, because it was all bunk.

Just like the accusations of being banned at the mall were proven false, Just like the faked signature inscription. All that was proven was the fellow that orchrasted a lot of it was found guilty of owning his wife a lot of money in a divorce (Moore was the judge)... and that his gay brother worked for the Wapo... and that he didn't like Roy Moore because Moore didn't condone gay marriages. Ginsberg (SCOTUS) married him before it was legalized before a court she stood on where the issue was not decided.

Since you say you withhold judgement, provide your proof against Roy Moore. ONE FREAKING SHRED OF EVIDENCE please.

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In response, Moore said, "I know her, but I don't remember going on dates with her. I knew her as a friend. If we did go on dates, then we did."



You call that a denial...and yes....that statement was about a 17 year old. It’s just rich for him to say “if we did go on dates...we did”. Just wow. Let me help you out Sighlass...that’s a classic non-denial denial. Anyone who reads that as anything less than an admission has got to take off their blinders.

Gaetz on the other hand is making a firm denial...as such he deserves to be believed until evidence demonstrates otherwise. Moore...wellll. Nope. When those on our side of the aisle have ethical lapses, it’s doubly important we hold them accountable. Otherwise, we’re no better than the Left.
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GOP leader says Gaetz would lose committee seat if charges true
By Mike Lillis - 03/31/21 11:02 AM EDT

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said Wednesday that GOP leaders will remove Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) from his committee assignments if he's found to be guilty of sex trafficking, a case currently under investigation by the Justice Department.

But McCarthy suggested Gaetz would remain on those panels, which include the powerful Judiciary Committee, during the course of the DOJ's investigation.

"Those are serious implications. If it comes out to be true, yes, we would remove him if that's the case," McCarthy told Fox News. "But right now Matt Gaetz says that it's not true and we don't have any information. So let's get all the information."

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Former DOJ Official Accused Of Extorting Matt Gaetz Denies Allegations Against Him
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/30/david-mgee-doj-official-denies-extortion-allegation-matt-gaetz/
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Former DOJ Official Accused Of Extorting Matt Gaetz Denies Allegations Against Him
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/30/david-mgee-doj-official-denies-extortion-allegation-matt-gaetz/

Now that we have the ID of the supposed "extorter", it should be pretty interesting and easy to find out his political affilations and level of advocacy and militancy.
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This is quite the kerfuffle, don't know what to make of it.

But one way or the other, the young woman who (allegedly) was involved will sooner or later have to come forward, either to exonerate Mr. Gaetz, or to accuse him.
IF she exists.

Only then will the haze begin to clear...

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In response, Moore said, "I know her, but I don't remember going on dates with her. I knew her as a friend. If we did go on dates, then we did."

You call that a denial...and yes....that statement was about a 17 year old. It’s just rich for him to say “if we did go on dates...we did”. Just wow. Let me help you out Sighlass...that’s a classic non-denial denial. Anyone who reads that as anything less than an admission has got to take off their blinders.

Gaetz on the other hand is making a firm denial...as such he deserves to be believed until evidence demonstrates otherwise. Moore...wellll. Nope. When those on our side of the aisle have ethical lapses, it’s doubly important we hold them accountable. Otherwise, we’re no better than the Left.

Once again you move the goalposts. You claimed Roy Moore was having sex with underage girls and then throw in possible date he may of had with a girl that did not claim anything sexual. This was not the 14 y/o that the press ran with and then as you just did tried to connect the two as the same thing.

Even then, she (the girl you linked) said "nothing bad happened".

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/blakemontgomery/roy-moore-hannity

One girl claimed she (while 18) was served alcohol while on a date with Roy Moore, except the county was dry, so he must of been really good talker.

All I know is I dated a girl about 10 years my junior, also 17, she is my wife to this day. I also asked her mother's permission, I behaved like a gentleman. I broke no laws and have no regrets.

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  If a 30+ years man slept with a 17 year old...he's a perv. Like Roy Moore.

Once again you failed to give any proof of what you claimed. You give the benefit of doubt to Gaetz, yet years later with NOOoooo proof still make allegations like the NYTimes and try to slide unrelated stuff in as proof. Even if everything said about Roy Moore was true, it still would not support what you claimed.

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Once again you move the goalposts. You claimed Roy Moore was having sex with underage girls and then throw in possible date he may of had with a girl that did not claim anything sexual. This was not the 14 y/o that the press ran with and then as you just did tried to connect the two as the same thing.

Even then, she (the girl you linked) said "nothing bad happened".

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/blakemontgomery/roy-moore-hannity

One girl claimed she (while 18) was served alcohol while on a date with Roy Moore, except the county was dry, so he must of been really good talker.

All I know is I dated a girl about 10 years my junior, also 17, she is my wife to this day. I also asked her mother's permission, I behaved like a gentleman. I broke no laws and have no regrets.

Once again you failed to give any proof of what you claimed. You give the benefit of doubt to Gaetz, yet years later with NOOoooo proof still make allegations like the NYTimes and try to slide unrelated stuff in as proof. Even if everything said about Roy Moore was true, it still would not support what you claimed.

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I did. I gave you proof he was dating an underage girl (17). Proof...as in...the best kind of proof...an admission.

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This is quite the kerfuffle, don't know what to make of it.

But one way or the other, the young woman who (allegedly) was involved will sooner or later have to come forward, either to exonerate Mr. Gaetz, or to accuse him.
IF she exists.

Only then will the haze begin to clear...
IF she were 17....I DON'T CARE....  This is a big to do about NOTHING!  There MAY be more to this....but at this point....seriously...who cares?
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Documents Detail Alleged ‘Hostage Release’ Scheme to Extort Gaetz
The material suggests that Gaetz’s father was told his son’s legal problems could go away if he gave $25 million to help secure the release of Iranian hostage Bob Levinson.
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Updated Mar. 31, 2021 7:29PM ET / Published Mar. 31, 2021 6:15PM ET

The scandal swirling around Rep. Matt Gaetz took a stunning turn Wednesday with the news that a former Air Force intelligence official and a Florida lawyer tried to get the congressman’s dad to cough up $25 million that would be used to free American Bob Levinson from Iranian custody—and somehow release Gaetz from a federal sex-crimes investigation.

And if that wasn’t enough, here’s one more strange fact: Levinson was declared dead last year.

The Washington Examiner obtained a document that was allegedly presented to Don Gaetz by the ex-military official, Bob Kent, that laid out the purported scheme. The site also obtained an email sent to Don Gaetz’s lawyer by federal prosecutors that suggests they were looking into whether a crime was under way.

The document dubbed “Project Homecoming” stipulated that Gaetz would deposit money for Levinson’s ransom in an account connected to the firm of Florida lawyer David McGee, who has represented the Levinson family for years. Also named in the scheme: Stephen Alford, a convicted fraudster who McGee has represented—both in court and in business matters. ...

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IF she were 17....I DON'T CARE....  This is a big to do about NOTHING!  There MAY be more to this....but at this point....seriously...who cares?

17? That is a mature woman. Playing games with us, IF IF IF...it is true, I don't care.  Have you seen young women lately? 
Even those 13, 15 years olds who kill the muslim UBER DRIVER...look very GROWN.  Now, what about all those kids and women being trafficked at the border?  ANY DEMON-RAT UPSET ABOUT THAT?  Real children, age one, three, five, they are being trafficked.  CONGRESS, ANY ISSUES WITH THEM?

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An old democrat tactic of attacking without any concern about whether the claims are false or not.  Its about the seriousness of the accusation/charge, when its someone the democrats wanna go after.  The democrats really want a totalitarian one party government and to do thus must engage in an extreme purge to get the desired effects.  Socialist reign of terror, and using such tactics for a Century and more.  You wanna purge somebody, get whores to false witness, another well over used tactic by those with no conscience, and seen to be used democrats many times already too.
Right. Get the smear out front, equate accusation with guilt (who needs a trial--a mere formality?) and try them in the court of public opinion dominated by Leftist outlets who will be using the same buzzword phrases updated every quarter hour. Force resignation without ever addressing the issue where Discovery would be made or evidence examined. Standard tactics, now, because so many on the Right (well, the GOPe) rushed to concemn and withdraw any support from Moore... and, come to think of it, similar means were used by the Left (and GOPe) against Trump over the whole Russia nonsense.

If the pattern isn't familiar to Conservatives by now, you haven't been paying attention, and the more conservative the person who is the target, the more likely the good ol' boyz in the Swamp will join in against them.
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Right. Get the smear out front, equate accusation with guilt (who needs a trial--a mere formality?) and try them in the court of public opinion dominated by Leftist outlets who will be using the same buzzword phrases updated every quarter hour. Force resignation without ever addressing the issue where Discovery would be made or evidence examined. Standard tactics, now, because so many on the Right (well, the GOPe) rushed to concemn and withdraw any support from Moore... and, come to think of it, similar means were used by the Left (and GOPe) against Trump over the whole Russia nonsense.

If the pattern isn't familiar to Conservatives by now, you haven't been paying attention, and the more conservative the person who is the target, the more likely the good ol' boyz in the Swamp will join in against them.

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I did. I gave you proof he was dating an underage girl (17). Proof...as in...the best kind of proof...an admission.

Oh please!  A technicality.  What about men who actually RAPE BABYS?  One has that image, tattooed on his forearm. Crying baby getting assaulted. The toddlers, coming over ILLEGALLY who are 1, 3, 5.  All alone. They get abused. Can we focus on REAL PROBLEMS?  17, is old enough to say yes or no. Remember High School? You think all were virgins? Please don't faint and clutch pearls. Much ADO ABOUT NOTHING.

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GOP leader says Gaetz would lose committee seat if charges true
By Mike Lillis - 03/31/21 11:02 AM EDT

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said Wednesday that GOP leaders will remove Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) from his committee assignments if he's found to be guilty of sex trafficking, a case currently under investigation by the Justice Department.

But McCarthy suggested Gaetz would remain on those panels, which include the powerful Judiciary Committee, during the course of the DOJ's investigation.

"Those are serious implications. If it comes out to be true, yes, we would remove him if that's the case," McCarthy told Fox News. "But right now Matt Gaetz says that it's not true and we don't have any information. So let's get all the information."

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/545742-gop-leader-says-gaetz-would-lose-committee-seat-if-charges-true

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Man accused of trying to extort Max Gaetz admits he asked for cash
NY Post, Apr 5, 2020 11:11 pm

The man accused of trying to extort $25 million from Rep. Matt Gaetz’s family admitted Monday that he asked the congressman’s dad for cash — but denied that it was a shakedown.

Bob Kent, an ex-Air Force intelligence officer, confirmed to Sirius Radio host Michael Smerconish that he approached the Florida Republican’s dad, Don Gaetz, for money last month.

The funds, Kent said, were to pay for an effort to free Robert Levinson, a former FBI agent who disappeared in Iran in 2007, and is believed to be dead. Kent claimed he has video evidence that Levinson is still alive and is being held hostage.

Kent said he met Don Gaetz, a wealthy former Florida politician, at his office on March 17 — and told him his son was having “legal issues” and might want to “generate good will” by helping with the rescue effort.  “I explained that in no way am I trying to extort him and that if he decides not to help us, he’ll never hear from me again,” Kent told Smerconish.

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Documents obtained by the Washington Examiner, however, showed how Kent allegedly texted Don Gaetz saying he had a plan that could make his son’s “future legal and political problems go away.”

Kent also gave Don a document called “Project Homecoming” that detailed the alleged federal probe against Matt Gaetz and claimed the FBI had photos of the lawmaker in a “sexual orgy with underage prostitutes.”

“Our strategy for Congressman Gaetz to mitigate his legal, and political, troubles would be for him, or someone else, to arrange for the funds required to obtain the immediate release of Robert Levinson from captivity in Iran,” the document stated.

Kent said the document was put together by Stephen Alford, a Florida developer who has previously been accused of fraud.

Don Gaetz contacted the FBI about the proposal and the agency is investigating whether it constitutes an extortion attempt against the Gaetz clan, The Washington Post reported last week.

Kent said he has been interviewed by the FBI and is cooperating.

It’s unclear how Kent and his cohorts knew that Matt Gaetz, 38, was under investigation by the Department of Justice.


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Can we lynch Judge Roy Moore if the 17 year old in question was Stormy Daniels doing her best for the Democrat party ? ?
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I did. I gave you proof he was dating an underage girl (17). Proof...as in...the best kind of proof...an admission.

You claimed Roy Moore was having sex with an underage girl. I quoted you.

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If a 30+ years man slept with a 17 year old...he's a perv. Like Roy Moore.

Sleeping with someone is 100% different than just dating someone. Roy was occupied with Military stuff and didn't date for most his life at that time. I was the same (well I wasn't military), but I had an old house I was trying to fix up and working and just didn't date for most of my 20s. I had an co-worker suggest meeting this girl he knew through his daughter. She was religious, I was religious, and we both agreed to go basically on a blind date after meeting her mother first. It was a little awkward to say the least but I am glad I did it. It was the way things were done... I called for a second date (the next week) and she couldn't talk (cold and throat was scratchy). I thought she just didn't want to date me (and it saddened me), but I talked it over with my mother and she said, take her a fruit basket. So I went to the grocery store and bought every fruit I could think of and she agreed to let me come over to drop it off. She felt somewhat better and decided to go out with me when I arrived (she didn't talk much that date, but we had a good time). Just saying, sometimes things are innocent. And even if Roy did date (and he never admitted he did) someone 17, I see no shame in it if it was above the table behavior wise (she said it was).



 Second Roy did not admit it but said he didn't remember dating her at all but if they did (date), they did (you quoted him saying this, not saying he dated a 17 y/o)... I pointed out that I most certainly dated a younger girl (it was legal to date back then, probable still is), and as far as it was found out, everything was above the table (as she admitted).

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I gave you proof he was dating an underage girl (17).

Your definition of proof sure need improvement. He said what? That he didn't remember dating her, he did know her, but that he didn't remember dating her, but it could of been was the admission, that was all and that he did not think he dated anyone that age. Being it was such a long time ago, I don't think I could of remembered it either. I took (one bad date I do remember) a girl to a senior prom years ago when I was probable 24 or so. It was a request from a friend that was dating her friend. It was just a bad date all around, we didn't gel at all. She may of been 17 or 18, I don't remember asking, but I did meet her mother/father (whom I liked). I craved more mature conversations, but the girls my age were hard to find (mostly married). Mostly I just didn't date (gave up).

I got pretty lonely, started asking for a help mate in my prayers. Lord directed me to start taking chances. One blind date was an answer to my prayers. Smart reverent pretty and not too demanding, and I didn't have to make most the conversation myself. I was in love and still am today. We waited until she was 21 to marry, but we knew within a year.

Roy dated younger girls, even married one (23, he was 38 I think). But I still to this day can see no wrong in what he did. Us guys (especially the serious ones like myself and Roy who put career before other things) tend to be more socially awkward than girls, I didn't serious date until I met my wife. I didn't hold conversations with women my age honestly. It took the wife years to get me out of my shell.

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What do I think of Gaetz? Don't know, too early. Unlike Roy Moore, where it was so long ago that nothing could be proven, I don't think this will be the case here. Nice thing about that, if innocent, it probable can be proven instead of being guilty with NO proof.
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Sleeping with someone is 100% different than just dating someone. Roy was occupied with Military stuff and didn't date for most his life at that time. I was the same (well I wasn't military)

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It was a different time and a different culture from what most city folks are used to.

My mother married at 17 and had me (her second) when she was 19 or 20. And my old man was 7 (or so) years older than her. He was a sergeant in the army when they started dating. Dated for over 6 months, and then got married.

And that was not uncommon. Heck, it ain't THAT uncommon now. At the time a girl was taught to marry older men to give them time to become set up enough to be able to provide a good income and a home for the woman. Those who are critical of Moore don't allow for that at all, and don't understand proper courting either.
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Can we lynch Judge Roy Moore if the 17 year old in question was Stormy Daniels doing her best for the Democrat party ? ?
 ****slapping :smokin: ****slapping :silly: :silly: :silly: ?

Stormy has to pay POTUS TRUMP $290,000,  for lying. Since when do liberals care about private lives, after BILL CLINTON?  If something happened with Stormy, that was 18 years ago. JFK? RJK, BOTH HORN DOGS.  Same with LBJ.  WHILE IN THE OVAL OFFICE. All this double standard when it happens to a 'right'.  Ugh.

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Do you suppose Republicans could prey on all manner of females including young underage ones, like democrats do, if they just call it 'bimbo eruptions' like hitlery did, and get away with it?

The double triple standards, hypocrisies, of democrats, that democrats get away with, makes one nauseous.
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