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For Senate Democrats, passing gun control might be impossible, even without the filibuster
by Susan Ferrechio
 | March 30, 2021 06:30 AM


Senate Democrats have been eager to blame the GOP for stalled gun control legislation, but their own party lawmakers may ultimately block it.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has pledged to take up two House-passed bills to expand and enhance background check legislation but has yet to put them on the schedule.

The 60-vote threshold means at least 10 Republicans would have to vote for the bill unless Democrats get rid of the filibuster. Even with Republicans no longer an obstacle, Democrats would still lack the votes in their own party to pass the legislation.

Centrists led by Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia believe the language in the House bill barring transfers between friends and families goes too far and want broader carve-outs than are provided in the bill.

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When did Manschin become a "centrist"?   Last time I checked, he still wears his (D), which stands for Dictator in Training.
The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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Didn't people assure us that the last election didn't matter, we'll just win the next one?

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Didn't people assure us that the last election didn't matter, we'll just win the next one?

You will not 'win' any. Because y'all stand upon sand.

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You will not 'win' any. Because y'all stand upon sand.
Unlike you atleast they stand.

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Unlike you atleast they stand.

I have been standing exactly in the same place for all my life.

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I have been standing exactly in the same place for all my life.
You've been sitting in the same place as the world passes you by. You stand for nothing so just sit there and STFU.

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You've been sitting in the same place as the world passes you by. You stand for nothing so just sit there and STFU.

Nah. What I stand upon is timeless - And I will defend it with my life.
That it is not what you stand upon is readily evident. It is you that stands for nothing. That is the very fate of populism. Always has been, and always will be. So go follow your prince. I will stay right where I always have been, Directly under the standard of principled Conservatism.

And no, I will be continuing to speak the truth... As long as I have breath.

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The paradox of Liberal policy is to increase controls of legal purchase and ownership of firearms while pursuing lenient enforcement policy for those who commit crimes while illegally possessing firearms.

This leads to the rational reaction, "I need to purchase a firearm now before the Democrats take away my ability to purchase one legally."

Also, it feeds the fear that "I'll need a personal firearm to protect my family because the government will be unwilling to arrest, try, convict, and imprison violent offenders; will not adequately enforce firearms laws against criminals; and liberal judges will let violent criminals out of jail on lenient bail so they can offend again while awaiting trial."

Why do Liberals want to harm law-abiding persons while coddling violent criminals?

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When did Manschin become a "centrist"?   Last time I checked, he still wears his (D), which stands for Dictator in Training.

Manchiin is a weasel, and is not to be trusted under any circumstance. 
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

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Somestand against Republicans and give democrats a pass on far worse, but they sear they do not what they openly is obvious what they are doing.  AnnihilTE AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS PATRIOTISM, patriot my butt!  That's a bunch of jihad mixed with Communism under a Patriot thin skin!   In a year or two some of the clueless will finally move past psycho denial.

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Somestand against Republicans and give democrats a pass on far worse, but they sear they do not what they openly is obvious what they are doing.  AnnihilTE AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS PATRIOTISM, patriot my butt!  That's a bunch of jihad mixed with Communism under a Patriot thin skin!   In a year or two some of the clueless will finally move past psycho denial.

BOTH sides are annihilating  America.

Neither side is your friend.

The only good government is small government. Conservatism 101.
And it is like fire. Fine when it is small and contained. But it will burn down everything you've made and leave you dead if you let it get out of its box.

When you are ready to support small, responsible government, then we will see eye to eye.
Till then, y'all ain't no different than the Democrats.


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BOTH sides are annihilating  America.

Neither side is your friend.

The only good government is small government. Conservatism 101.
And it is like fire. Fine when it is small and contained. But it will burn down everything you've made and leave you dead if you let it get out of its box.

When you are ready to support small, responsible government, then we will see eye to eye.
Till then, y'all ain't no different than the Democrats.
That's the pot calling the kettle black.

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That's the pot calling the kettle black.

That's right - Y'all being the pot and the crats being the kettle.

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I reckon that ALL of the demo-communist senators will fall into line when ordered to do so.

No matter what you may say about the communists, they had and enforced "party discipline", military-style. To be a "member of the party" was to be a [non-uniform-wearing] soldier for marxism.

Now that we're on the pathway towards communist rule, it's going to take that same kind of discipline on OUR side if they're to be defeated.

Otherwise...
...We lose.

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Manchiin is a weasel, and is not to be trusted under any circumstance.
   

For that matter, is there anyone in gov't that can be trusted?  There are a few I trust more than others, but these days, I question every single one of them.
GOD Bless America, have mercy upon this country and stop the evil that has a stranglehold on our Republic from prevailing.

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That's right - Y'all being the pot and the crats being the kettle.
No. It's you libby being the pot and the dems being the kettle. Since you stand for nothing you can stay seated and STFU.

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I reckon that ALL of the demo-communist senators will fall into line when ordered to do so.

No matter what you may say about the communists, they had and enforced "party discipline", military-style. To be a "member of the party" was to be a [non-uniform-wearing] soldier for marxism.

Now that we're on the pathway towards communist rule, it's going to take that same kind of discipline on OUR side if they're to be defeated.

Otherwise...
...We lose.

Yup.

If the filibuster is voided, the Rodents will criminalize long-gun ownership in less than a week, and hand-guns will be outlawed the week after...with exceptions made for the Rodent elite, of course.

There's no doubt about this.   This has been their goal since the 1930's, to disarm the US public like those other milder socialists in Germany did and like socialists do, always and forever.  They know they can't have firm control of their slaves if their slaves can shoot them.
The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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No. It's you libby being the pot and the dems being the kettle. Since you stand for nothing you can stay seated and STFU.

LOL! I am not the one voting FOR big government on the right... Nor on the left. A pox on them all.

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LOL! I am not the one voting FOR big government on the right... Nor on the left. A pox on them all.
You're the one that lives in the land of Make Believe. We don't always get to vote for what we want so we have to vote for the lesser of two evils. When you stay seated like you do we end up with your buddies the demonrats in office. So you're the one that is actually voting for big government libby. When you don't vote you have no say.
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You're the one that lives in the land of Make Believe. We don't always get to vote for what we want so we have to vote for the lesser of two evils. When you stay seated like you do we end up with your buddies the demonrats in office. So you're the one that is actually voting for big government libby.

Yeah whatever... You haven't been worth a single win in thirty years. And you think I'm in the land of Make Believe?

Funny how the Dems get what they want... Great strides toward liberalism... But y'all are content to live on crumbs and never get your way. That should be a clue.

Liberals win because they have no opposition.

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Yeah whatever... You haven't been worth a single win in thirty years. And you think I'm in the land of Make Believe?

Funny how the Dems get what they want... Great strides toward liberalism... But y'all are content to live on crumbs and never get your way. That should be a clue.

Liberals win because they have no opposition.
And liberal sympathizers like you are no help. Just keep sitting on your ass in the land of Make Believe and do nothing to change it. You spout your BS with no clue what's going on in the real world. You self righteous bench warmers are as much of the problem as the ones you whine about.

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And liberal sympathizers like you are no help. Just keep sitting on your ass in the land of Make Believe and do nothing to change it. You spout your BS with no clue what's going on in the real world. You self righteous bench warmers are as much of the problem as the ones you whine about.

Nah... I ain't on your bench. But like the Democrats do, y'all would shame and coerce me into voting agaisnt what I want. Funny how I can't see no damn difference eh?

You don't get my vote because you are not standing where I am (A helluva lot farther to the right than most). You have no right to it, as I am not a Republican and therefore without any obligation. And since y'all ain't standing for Conservatism, there is no desire to vote for you either.

So until you get it through your thick skulls that Conservatism is where your power is, I will just remain indy and likely third party - Since y'all ain't done sh*t nearly my entire life, I actually have as good or better a chance at effecting real change through a 3rd party.

So go ahead and spout your toothless barbs... Chase after your princes and popularity. You got nothing.


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BOTH sides are annihilating AMERICA.

I think we're having a break through moment, not just; blame Never Trump/Republicans, the democrats get a pass/they don't matter.  How expensive is a good therapist now-a-days?
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You've been sitting in the same place as the world passes you by. You stand for nothing so just sit there and STFU.

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