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U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« on: March 11, 2021, 11:04:14 pm »
KELO by Richard Cowan 3/11/2021

The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday approved a pair of gun control bills as Democrats seized upon a shifting political landscape that they said improved chances for enacting new laws after years of failed attempts.

The first measure, which passed the Democratic-led House 227-203, would close a long-standing loophole in gun laws by expanding background checks to those purchasing weapons over the internet, at gun shows and through certain private transactions. Only eight Republicans joined the Democrats in backing the bill.

The second bill, passed 219-210 with only two Republicans supporting it, would give authorities 10 business days for federal background checks to be completed before a gun sale can be licensed. Currently, such sales can proceed if the government cannot complete complicated background checks of prospective buyers within three days.

President Joe Biden is a supporter of expanded gun control measures. The legislation may face a tougher battle in the U.S. Senate, where Biden's fellow Democrats hold an even slimmer majority than in the House.

The bills follow a series of deadly U.S. mass shootings over the past decade. Gun control is a divisive issue in the United States, which enshrines gun rights in its Constitution. Most Republicans strongly oppose gun restrictions, while most Democrats argue that new laws are needed to curb gun violence.

The House Judiciary Committee's senior Republican, Jim Jordan, wrote on Twitter that House Democrats were "making it harder for law-abiding citizens to buy a gun."

Many Democrats want to go further by banning sales of some high-capacity, military-style rifles that can fire ammunition rapidly.

Democratic Representative Mike Thompson, who has spearheaded a drive for expanded gun control for years, said 30 people are killed by gun violence daily in the United States, with that number growing to 100 if suicides and accidental deaths involving firearms are counted. At the same time, Thompson said, 170 felons and 50 domestic abusers are stopped from buying a gun every day.

"It only makes sense that if you expand it you'll stop even more felons, more domestic abusers," Thompson said.

Republicans opposing the bills argued that the legislation would not make American streets safer and would infringe upon the right to bear arms guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment.

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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2021, 11:10:04 pm »
Clyburn Background Check Bill Would Flip Burden of Proof, Allow FBI to Indefinitely Delay Firearm Transactions by Inaction

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https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210308/clyburn-background-check-bill-would-flip-burden-of-proof-allow-fbi-to-indefinitely-delay-firearm-transactions-by-inaction

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Should the government be able to deny your right to obtain a firearm, simply by failing to complete a mandatory background check? Anti-gun Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) apparently thinks so.

On March 1st, Clyburn introduced H.R. 1446, the so-called “Enhanced Background Checks Act.” Under the bill, the FBI could indefinitely block federally licensed dealers (FFLs) from transferring firearms, simply by failing to provide decisions on the background checks FFLs are required to run on their customers.

Currently, federal law requires FFLs to run a background check on any unlicensed customer who wants a firearm through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), administered by the FBI. The purpose of the background check is to determine if the intended recipient of the firearm falls into any of the statutorily defined categories of “prohibited persons.” If the intended recipient is not a prohibited person, the FBI has no discretion to deny the transaction for other reasons.

To initiate a background check, the intended recipient fills out a government form (known as a Form 4473) that contains identifying information about the individual. The intended recipient must also make a series of legally binding declarations on the Form 4473, attesting that he or she is not in any of the prohibited categories. The FFL then uses the identifying information to run the NICS check.

Under Clyburn’s bill, however, there would no longer be a set timeframe under which the FFL could proceed with a transfer if the FBI failed to give a definitive answer to a NICS check. An unresolved delay would become a presumptive prohibition on the transfer, even if the FBI never identified a disqualifying record.

Instead, the intended transferee – who already filed the Form 4473 with the FFL – would have to file a second petition with the government making the exact same declarations of eligibility and, once again, asking the FBI – pretty please this time -- to rule on the matter.

But what would happen if the FBI didn’t resolve the follow-up petition?

In that case, the Clyburn bill would require the FFL to wait at least 10 additional business days from the date the intended recipient filed the petition to consider making a default transfer. How the intended recipient is supposed to prove to the FFL the petition was even filed in the first place is not specified.

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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2021, 11:16:04 pm »
The Usurper Biden isn't a supporter of ANYTHING the Rodent Congress proposes.   He's senile.

He exists merely to sign whatever's put in front of him, bills, menus, napkins or diapers.  All the same to him.

The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2021, 01:57:23 am »
Now we will see what garbage is in the senate AGAIN!

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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2021, 05:03:54 am »
Democrats have admitted that their agenda is to eventually ban all guns. Of course not from criminals,but that goes without saying.  Remember, it doesn't matter, because Trump was defeated.  Some times you get what you deserve, and as bad as this is, far worse is coming.  The sacred lie that elections don't matter has to be convincing even some hardcore fools now. Trump lost, WHOOPEE!  WHOOP WHOOP WHOOPEE!  dance dance dance  :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2021, 03:40:03 pm »
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HR 8 and HR 1446 have passed the US House of Representatives.

HR 8 requires universal background checks for all transfers outside your immediate family, and HR 1446 enhances the scope of those background checks; it changes the law from a "Shall Issue" to a "May Issue" for the transfer of a weapon by the FBI.

By way of example, right now the FBI is required to give your FFL a response and that has to happen within a maximum of 3 days for a background check. Under this heinous bill, an FFL could wait up to a month to hear back from the FBI... or NOT AT ALL! As I understand it, there's no recourse for the buyer; you cannot contact the FBI to make an appeal directly. Therefore, you would have very limited recourse if this happens to you.


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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2021, 06:38:38 pm »
Denial of the Second Amendment by bureaucratic inaction.

The commoners would be disarmed, the nobility would get their permits.

What's to stop the FBI from checking voter registration and denying permits to registered Republicans only?

Nothing.

We cannot trust the FBI to protect the Constitution.
The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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Re: U.S. House passes two Democratic-backed gun control bills
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2021, 09:49:32 pm »
Denial of the Second Amendment by bureaucratic inaction.

The commoners would be disarmed, the nobility would get their permits.

What's to stop the FBI from checking voter registration and denying permits to registered Republicans only?

Nothing.

We cannot trust the FBI to protect the Constitution.
It's been proven the FBI is not to be trusted PERIOD!