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Third shot may be needed to combat new coronavirus variants, Bill Gates says

By Caitlin Yilek

February 17, 2021 / 7:06 AM / CBS News


A third dose of coronavirus vaccine may be needed to prevent serious cases of new variants of the disease, Bill Gates said Tuesday. The billionaire philanthropist's comments come amid to the growing concern that current vaccines are less effective against the South African and Brazilian variants.

"The discussion now is do we just need to get a super high coverage of the current vaccine, or do we need a third dose that's just the same, or do we need a modified vaccine?" Gates told "CBS Evening News" anchor and managing editor Norah O'Donnell.

"All five of the companies that have U.S. vaccines are looking at making that modification and adding that in so that people who've already had two shots might need to get a third shot," he said. "I think it's reasonably likely that we will have a tuned vaccine just to make absolutely sure that as these variants hit the U.S. that they're not escaping from vaccine protection."

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I'll consider believing that when I hear it from someone who actually knows something about immunology and vaccines. This is just MSM Panic Porn fodder.

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All five of the companies that have U.S. vaccines ...

I know what companies Gates refers to, but that phrasing is almost Bidenesque. Currently: two vaccines have received EUA, not five; a third company has applied for EUA, still not five; a fourth company is likely to apply for EUA in the next few days or weeks, still not five; a fifth company, AstraZeneca, looks unlikely to apply for EUA, so that fifth "U.S. vaccine" looks to be many months in the future (Inovio, currently Phase II? Vaxart, currently Phase I?). Like Melinda, Bill's mouth demonstrates how little he knows about what he advocates.

In the real world there is already evidence that Pfizer's, Moderna's, Johnson & Johnson's, and Novavax's vaccines are effective against the UK and South African variants. Similarly, there is also evidence that AstraZeneca's is ineffective against the South African variant. So Oxford University and AZ probably are investigating ways to broaden the vaccine's effectiveness. But AZ/Oxford are not Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 05:37:20 pm by PeteS in CA »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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I'll consider believing that when I hear it from someone who actually knows something about immunology and vaccines.

Gates is as much an expert in immunology as was German horticulturalist Heinrich Himmler an expert in human genetics.
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That should increase profits by 50%.

I don't know about other countries' purchase contracts, but US purchase contracts were written many months ago, conditional on vaccines receiving Emergency Use Authorization (which only Pfizer's and Moderna's currently have), and at a fixed price. The initial 100M dose purchases were part of the contracts, and 100M dose options - from P and M - were exercised at the same fixed price before the end of 2020. Johnson & Johnson is likely to receive EUA in a couple weeks, and they have a similar conditional 100M dose fixed price contract; ditto Novavax.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Nope.  I don't trust the first two.  I sure as heck wouldn't get a third.

Gates is too involved in this; no way I can trust these vaccines.
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Nope.  I don't trust the first two.  I sure as heck wouldn't get a third.

Gates is too involved in this; no way I can trust these vaccines.

Bill Gates has had approximately zero to do with the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax vaccines. However deserved Gates' bogeyman status, that claim is false.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Bill Gates has had approximately zero to do with the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax vaccines. However deserved Gates' bogeyman status, that claim is false.

You're entitled to your opinion. I believe he is an evil man.

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The sumbitch has yet to stop a virus since he founded micro shoft.

HA! That's a bare FACT, right there.  :beer:

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Which shot contains the tracking chip?   :silly:

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You're entitled to your opinion. I believe he is an evil man.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-bill-gates-effect-whos-dtp-vaccine-kills-more-children-in-africa-than-the-diseases-it-targets/

@libertybele, try understanding my post before "responding". My only fact claim was that Bill Gates had approximately zero to do with the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax vaccines. I based that statement on months of following the progress of those vaccines.

The DTP vaccine is totally dissimilar from the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax vaccines, and a decades-ago WHO project is similarly irrelevant. WHO also has had approximately zero to do with the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax vaccines, other than, possibly, purchasing some.

I did not comment on whether or not Bill Gates is evil.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 07:02:00 pm by PeteS in CA »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Which shot contains the tracking chip?   :silly:

The same one that reprograms DNA, makes men and women infertile, and makes vaccinated men gay.


Did I miss any currently circulating anti-vax conspiracy theories?
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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This is unfair of Gates, assuming SeeBS did not lie about his saying it.  I only have two middle fingers to give to him.
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The same one that reprograms DNA, makes men and women infertile, and makes vaccinated men gay.


Did I miss any currently circulating anti-vax conspiracy theories?

That's not fair.   Everyone knows....

those guys were already gay. 
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Good one.  :silly:
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And Gates's opinion on this matter is important... why, again? He's not in any position where he gets to decide this stuff.
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And Gates's opinion on this matter is important... why, again? He's not in any position where he gets to decide this stuff.

You really don't think one of the world's richest leftists has a say?
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You really don't think one of the world's richest leftists has a say?

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Eat your Fake Burger and submit .....     :cool:

Not sure if a three-finger or a middle-finger salute would be the more appropriate response to Gates' ignorant pronouncements.
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Yep ... he be a sumbitch ...  888high58888
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Which shot contains the tracking chip?   :silly:
It isn't a chip. But for your edification, from Scientific American: Invisible Ink Could Reveal whether Kids Have Been Vaccinated
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/invisible-ink-could-reveal-whether-kids-have-been-vaccinated/
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Would I be misunderstood if I said it makes no difference to me if Gates gets shot two or three times? :whistle: