The Chinese Navy Now Controls the Biggest Armada On Earth

[rangerrebew]

February 13, 2021

The Chinese Navy Now Controls the Biggest Armada On Earth

Those numbers could still be somewhat significant.
by Peter Suciu

Here's What You Need to Remember: Esper reaffirmed that China is the top U.S. security threat and added that the Indo-Pacific region will be a “priority theater” for the United States. “Not only is this region important because it is a hub of global trade and commerce, it is also the epicenter of great power competition with China.”

The People’s Republic of China has more warships than any other power in the world, including the United States, and it could have global naval dominance—at least in pure numbers—within a decade. However, The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) still has considerable ways to go to match the power of the United States Navy, said Secretary of Defense Mark Esper.

“I want to make clear that China cannot match the United States when it comes to naval power,” Esper said at a RAND Corporation event last Wednesday, Business Insider reported.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/chinese-navy-now-controls-biggest-armada-earth-178199

[PeteS in CA]

I'm sorry, but aside from two aircraft carriers the People's Liberation Navy has nothing larger than its 50 destroyers. Calling that an "armada" borders on ridiculous. The PLN has nothing comparable to the USN's guided missile cruisers and nothing comparable to the USN's amphibious assault ships that are like light carriers that carry assault craft and a contingent of marines. The PLN has 50 destroyers; the USN has 68 guided missile destroyers of "just" the Arleigh Burke class. I doubt that the PLN's destroyers are close to being as capable as an Arleigh Burke class destroyer.

All in all, calling the People's Liberation Navy an "armada" ignores its composition. The PLN is basically a very large coastal defense navy. It is a threat to nearby nations, e.g. Taiwan. the Philippines, Japan, and SoKo, but it is not a navy capable of power projection on a global scale.

[Absalom]

I'm sorry, but aside from two aircraft carriers the People's Liberation Navy has nothing larger than its 50 destroyers. Calling that an "armada" borders on ridiculous. The PLN has nothing comparable to the USN's guided missile cruisers and nothing comparable to the USN's amphibious assault ships that are like light carriers that carry assault craft and a contingent of marines. The PLN has 50 destroyers; the USN has 68 guided missile destroyers of "just" the Arleigh Burke class. I doubt that the PLN's destroyers are close to being as capable as an Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
All in all, calling the People's Liberation Navy an "armada" ignores its composition. The PLN is basically a very large coastal defense navy. It is a threat to nearby nations, e.g. Taiwan. the Philippines, Japan, and SoKo, but it is not a navy capable of power projection on a global scale.

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On the mark as size hardly determines victory.
Consider, Japan has 4% of the land mass and 8% of the population of China;
yet in every Sino-Japan conflict over the past 125 years, Japan kicked China's butt.
Additionally, Czarist Russia, massively larger than Japan, challenged the latter
in 1905 at a Naval Battle in the Tsushima Strait and was decisively crushed;
Russia losing 27 warships and Japan zero. So much for size!!!

[PeteS in CA]

land mass
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On the mark as size hardly determines victory.
Consider, Japan has 4% of the land mass and 8% of the population of China;
yet in every Sino-Japan conflict over the past 125 years, Japan kicked China's butt.
Additionally, Czarist Russia, massively larger than Japan, challenged the latter
in 1905 at a Naval Battle in the Tsushima Strait and was decisively crushed;
Russia losing 27 warships and Japan zero. So much for size!!!

How is all that relevant to this thread? In the First Sino-Japanese War Japan's fleet was superior to China's particularly in rate of fire and ammunition quality. At Tsushima Japan's fleet had better ships, crossed the Russians' T (Japanese could fire full broadsides while Russian ships' fore guns were all they could fire at first), and the Russian ships were in terrible shape after coming from the Black Sea to Tsushima, and Russian crews were less well trained.

Also, the US is slightly larger than 1/3 of China's land mass, so even your attempt at analogy fails.

[Absalom]

How is all that relevant to this thread? In the First Sino-Japanese War Japan's fleet was superior to China's particularly in rate of fire and ammunition quality. At Tsushima Japan's fleet had better ships, crossed the Russians' T (Japanese could fire full broadsides while Russian ships' fore guns were all they could fire at first), and the Russian ships were in terrible shape after coming from the Black Sea to Tsushima, and Russian crews were less well trained.
Also, the US is slightly larger than 1/3 of China's land mass, so even your attempt at analogy fails.

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Like all cranks, your kind is eternally looking for a fight and as well
something to bitch/moan about. Predictable!!!
The title stated, "China's Navy controls the biggest Armada on Earth."
Biggest connotes size which was my point. Have you got it?
Let me try this:
In 331 BC, the Persians under Darius clashed w/the Greeks of Alexander,
who were outnumbered by some 5 to 1, at the Persians front yard near
Gaugamela/Arbela, Mesopotamia.
Within half a day, the Persian Empire was obliterated, w/Darius hanging from a tree.
Given Alexander's genius, did size matter???
Give yourself a coupla days to figure it out!!!