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Offline PeteS in CA

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And for the record.... anyone (not naming names) that does not know that the 'Covid death numbers' have been artificially inflated (nice way of saying they lied) for political motives hasn't been paying attention.

If "not naming names" alludes to me you haven't paid attention to my posts about US Covid deaths numbers.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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If "not naming names" alludes to me you haven't paid attention to my posts about US Covid deaths numbers.

Oh FFS.   Not everything is about you.   Thackney 'got it'.   You, not so much.    :shrug:
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If you ignore the claimed causes of death and only look at total deaths for the year, it is not a pretty picture.  That is not from a sudden rise in traffic deaths.



Excess mortality using raw death counts
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

So, are you.... in fact.... denying that the Covid-19 death stats have been artificially "inflated"?  And... for purely political reasons?   I can't think of another reason, other than they get/got more $$$ if it was deemed due to Covid.   :whistle:
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Another question:   Does anyone here still believe the info coming from "this" government?   Seriously?

Why would you?
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Oh FFS.   Not everything is about you.   Thackney 'got it'.   You, not so much.    :shrug:

Next time just say, "No."
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Next time just say, "No."

Lol!   You don't know me at all, do ya.    888mouth
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So, are you.... in fact.... denying that the Covid-19 death stats have been artificially "inflated"?  And... for purely political reasons?   I can't think of another reason, other than they get/got more $$$ if it was deemed due to Covid.   :whistle:

Just the opposite.  I am suggesting to ignore the cause of death claimed and look at this past year impact on the totals.
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Just the opposite.  I am suggesting to ignore the cause of death claimed and look at this past year impact on the totals.

Ok, so what, exactly, is your conclusion..... from this past year impact on the totals....

just to be clear.   
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Ok, so what, exactly, is your conclusion..... from this past year impact on the totals....

just to be clear.

There have been a lot more deaths from any cause in 2020 than in the previous 5 years, specific to the chart I posted.  The timing of peak deaths matches the peak Covid infection and hospitalization rates.  I see the difference primarily from Covid.

If further interested, you can go to the link and download any of the data sets.

The total number of US deaths exceeding the average of the previous 5 years is nearly half a million.
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Lots of statistics out there.  Also data indicating that the vaccine may NOT prevent the spread of COVID.  We're vaccinating people to prevent COVID, so if the vaccine is to prevent people from getting COVID how does that not eliminate some of the spread?  Also reports coming out that the vaccine is not effective against some of the new strains.  So much like the flu vaccine; the vaccines for COVID are only effective against certain strains.

They've never been able to stop the flu and I don't think they're ever going to be able to stop COVID.

A hearty thank-you to Biden, Fauci and the Chinese for their contributions to inflicting COVID on America!

https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/12/02/covid-19-vaccines-may-not-prevent-spread-of-virus-so-mask-wearing-other-protections-still-critical/
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Not lost in all this, is the entirely different narrative from MSM daily.  Before Biden's inauguration , there was a 24/7 doom and gloom report of death, disease, and destruction as story 1 ever night.  Now all of that has miraculously changed. /s.

Again (and repeat)..We are living in the Era of Mass Hypocricy.
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Not lost in all this, is the entirely different narrative from MSM daily.  Before Biden's inauguration , there was a 24/7 doom and gloom report of death, disease, and destruction as story 1 ever night.  Now all of that has miraculously changed. /s.

Again (and repeat)..We are living in the Era of Mass Hypocricy.

And again... I don't believe a damned thing coming out of the "government".   And that especially applies to those "government Covid death stats".
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There have been a lot more deaths from any cause in 2020 than in the previous 5 years, specific to the chart I posted.  The timing of peak deaths matches the peak Covid infection and hospitalization rates.  I see the difference primarily from Covid.

If further interested, you can go to the link and download any of the data sets.

The total number of US deaths exceeding the average of the previous 5 years is nearly half a million.

No thanks.   I don't trust anyone that Bill Gates admires....and the founder of that site sounds like a typical "global warming" leftist kook, to me.

I'll pass.

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Greenhouse gas emissions from human activities are the main driver of this warming
How much of the warming since 1850 can be attributed to human emissions? Almost all of it. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) states clearly in its most recent assessment report (AR5)4:

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Man, I have never heard 2 and a quarter million called a few before.
“2 and a quarter million” didn’t die caused by The China Virus. Hospitals will test anyone the suspect might have Covid symptoms or past history of MRSA or SARS so they can get their 20% extra funds from Medicare, for those of that age. Doesn’t mean that is the primary care diagnosis or the cause in the event of death.
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