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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2021, 05:03:34 pm »
McCarthy has to go.  He was attacking our POTUS while he was on the campaign trail.  He is one of them.

You have to ask yourself... why the HELL would Trump meet with one of his main back-stabbers?   I don't get it.    :shrug:
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #76 on: January 29, 2021, 05:09:21 pm »
I will never watch anything Rodent.

The clip was plain, there was no need to interpret otherwise.  Freudian slips reveal truths they didn't want said.

And ...they DID run the biggest voter fraud effort in US political history.    The facts are plain, too.

Yes, they did.   But the resident Trump-haters will never admit to that fact, truth and reality.

Btw. welcome.   I know you from another forum.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #77 on: January 29, 2021, 05:16:36 pm »
I will never watch anything Rodent.

The clip was plain, there was no need to interpret otherwise.  Freudian slips reveal truths they didn't want said.

So when Trump said "I do want corruption, always" we were supposed to take it at face value.  Or maybe he's a geriatric politician who gets tongue tied. 

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #78 on: January 29, 2021, 05:18:45 pm »
You have to ask yourself... why the HELL would Trump meet with one of his main back-stabbers?   I don't get it.    :shrug:

From my understanding he was meeting with him to assess or strategize on how to win back the House.  You are correct though; why divulge or make your plans known to your enemy.  This is one great fault of Trump's not selecting or confiding in the best people.

Secondly, the way that the DEMS have things set up to win seats and steal elections, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that the GOP is going to win.  The party will be destroyed long before then; way too many RINO's.

Trump meets with McCarthy in Florida to plan GOP House takeover in 2022

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-meets-with-mccarthy-in-florida-to-plan-gop-house-takeover-in-2022
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2021, 05:24:10 pm »


Trump meets with McCarthy in Florida to plan GOP House takeover in 2022



I really like the idea, especially if Trump can check his ego in at the door.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2021, 05:28:58 pm »
I really like the idea, especially if Trump can check his ego in at the door.

McCarthy's spox says McCarthy got everything he wanted in the meeting.  And the 10 traitors in the House probably won't be punished before the next election.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #81 on: January 29, 2021, 05:33:13 pm »
McCarthy's spox says McCarthy got everything he wanted in the meeting.  And the 10 traitors in the House probably won't be punished before the next election.

One has to go though.  There is no way Cheney should be allowed to survive.  Several of the dim congtention during the impeachment hearing, specifially quoted her bullshit. She is a flat out traitor.

If she is still in her leadership postion 6 months from now, there needs to be a party revolt.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2021, 05:43:55 pm »
One has to go though.  There is no way Cheney should be allowed to survive.  Several of the dim congtention during the impeachment hearing, specifially quoted her bullshit. She is a flat out traitor.

If she is still in her leadership postion 6 months from now, there needs to be a party revolt.

McCarthy is old-school.  He really believes "we have nowhere else to go."  I knew this about him since before he was named Leader.  A Ryan clone.

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2021, 08:38:30 pm »
McCarthy is old-school.  He really believes "we have nowhere else to go."  I knew this about him since before he was named Leader.  A Ryan clone.

Traitor Cheney will not be removed.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #84 on: January 29, 2021, 11:47:39 pm »
Note the fanaticism of the leftist democrats,often100% lockstepping to even bad legislation.  Even muslim fanatics are not always as single minded as the democrat fanatic socialists.  Despite being caught in many ways, many times and on even cameras, they still lockstep that no election fraud of an amount happened,in any important amount.  The democrat socialist fanatics join with fanatics from around the world and have many times invited them to America to ply their trade of death, destruction, rebellion.  Amazing how there elites willingly betray their Country and people for love of the global rich's money, Soros included.  They got away with massive election fraud by constantly chanting; Blame Trump! dEFEAT TRUMP!
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2021, 11:12:43 am »
Oh, but you're not allowed to say that.   No speaking of le truth in a Joe & da Hoe regime, dontcha know.
My ballot disappeared into thin air.  I screen capped every move I made on that ballot.  Capped my signature, the barcode, the envelope & sleeve and my drop off point.  I have the barcode receipt to prove I voted for Trump.  The RNC told me they have no record of me voting, ever, despite the fact my ballot was correctly addressed and in my name.  How does that work?  That means my 2016 vote for Trump somehow disappeared as well.  Makes me wonder how many other Trump votes went missing. 

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« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2021, 12:57:36 pm »
I remember there was a U.S.Mail truck's trailer sitting in a parking lot, that stayed there until the time of election ballot viability passed.  I figured it was ballots collected from a Conservative area.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2021, 12:58:24 pm »
I really like the idea, especially if Trump can check his ego in at the door.

What does this mean @catfish1957 ?

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« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2021, 02:39:41 pm »
What does this mean @catfish1957 ?

@Right_in_Virginia

Mostly, that he could be a huge asset on the campaign trail, as long as doesn't make the focus in himself, and more on the candidates.

Even as Citizen Trump, I am afraid it will be an exercise in self promotion.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2021, 03:09:14 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

Mostly, that he could be a huge asset on the campaign trail, as long as doesn't make the focus in himself, and more on the candidates.

Even as Citizen Trump, I am afraid it will be an exercise in self promotion.

Gird your loins @catfish1957  --- I think he'll probably do both  :laugh:

Selling his accomplishments and the differences between his vision and liberal visions for America has been what propelled candidates to victory smart enough to glom onto both.  Trump spent a lot of energy on house candidates in 2020 and every tossup seat went Republican.   

It will be interesting to see if and how this morphs going forward.     

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2021, 04:25:19 pm »
So when Trump said "I do want corruption, always" we were supposed to take it at face value.  Or maybe he's a geriatric politician who gets tongue tied.

No, of course not.

Trump is an AMERICAN.

Biden is not.

That makes all the difference.  We already knew what Biden was doing beforfe he confessed.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2021, 04:30:00 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

Mostly, that he could be a huge asset on the campaign trail, as long as doesn't make the focus in himself, and more on the candidates.

Even as Citizen Trump, I am afraid it will be an exercise in self promotion.

He could be one of the best assets ever on the campaign trail.

All he has to do is say, once, is "this guy is a RINO, don't vote for him", and poof!  We get the chance to purge the party.

But if he's out there pushing RINO droppings, he's a disaster for the country and will rapidly lose what clout he has with the Americans.

This next election..ESPECIALLY this next House and Senate election, is a watershed election where the Americans clean out the GOP stables.   The Rodents already hold those branches so nothing is changed if the Americans wipe out the RINOs, even if that means voting for Rodents to purge the RINO.

It must be done.   In one election in California, that Jane Harmon broad decided to run for Governess and thus Steve Kuykendall became my representative.   He turned out to be a pro-baby-murder RINO of the worst sort, so I didn't waste my vote on him the next time, and he was out.   

It's what must be done on a national scale this time.
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The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2021, 04:33:50 pm »
Selling his accomplishments and the differences between his vision and liberal visions for America has been what propelled candidates to victory smart enough to glom onto both.  Trump spent a lot of energy on house candidates in 2020 and every tossup seat went Republican.     

Trump colluding with a back-stabbing Globalist establishment Republican?  The same Luciferian-RNC snake who has pointedly refused to cast out Liz Cheney?  Trump is working together with that guy?

Alas, the North Star has moved within the firmament!  Whence now our spotless, pure revealed wisdom?

Having declared the R establishment leadership to be anathema, little more than a stealth Marxist cabal, how can you now trust anyone who would work with them?
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #93 on: January 30, 2021, 05:58:11 pm »
I doubt Trump trusts anyone in Congress.  He learned that lesson painfully.

But if his intent is to run again, he has to work to get Republicans elected.  He cannot have both houoses of Congress remain in Dem hands and get elected to POTUS and hold it.  He must see the Republicans through a majority in one of the houses.

But there is good news.  After ten days of Wrecking Ball Joe as POTUS, does anyone here think it will be hard for Trump to smash this dead from the neck up fool?  Republicans have to work hard in battleground states to end the processes that resulted in the 2020 election being stolen.

One major change I would suggest Trump consider is building a ground game, which he did not do in 2016 or 2020.  I offered to volunteer ten times and never heard from anyone.  They just did not care to have a ground game.  I found that to be foolish!

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« Reply #94 on: January 30, 2021, 06:29:57 pm »
I doubt Trump trusts anyone in Congress.  He learned that lesson painfully.

But if his intent is to run again, he has to work to get Republicans elected.  He cannot have both houoses of Congress remain in Dem hands and get elected to POTUS and hold it.  He must see the Republicans through a majority in one of the houses.

Whether Trump's intent is to run again, or to establish himself as King-Maker, I suspect you're correct - he's engaged in effective, pragmatic thought and recognized that the R party, with all its flaws, is the *only* vehicle that can advance an "America First" agenda.

But I don't see much of this pragmatism among Trump's strongest supporters here.  They've decided that the R party must be cast into outer darkness for the sin of inadequate loyalty to Trump, untrustworthy, irredeemable, and deserving the most harsh and permanent condemnation.  Yet now comes this same Trump, associating and collaborating with those same reprobate Rs.  Lo and behold, even the man himself can't pass the test of Trumpean purity administered by the MAGA proctors.

So I'm not questioning whether Trump can trust anyone in Congress.  I'm asking how anyone can simultaneously maintain that the R party is absolutely corrupt and that Trump merits continued trust while helping them.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #95 on: January 30, 2021, 06:36:18 pm »
Whether Trump's intent is to run again, or to establish himself as King-Maker, I suspect you're correct - he's engaged in effective, pragmatic thought and recognized that the R party, with all its flaws, is the *only* vehicle that can advance an "America First" agenda.

But I don't see much of this pragmatism among Trump's strongest supporters here.  They've decided that the R party must be cast into outer darkness for the sin of inadequate loyalty to Trump, untrustworthy, irredeemable, and deserving the most harsh and permanent condemnation.  Yet now comes this same Trump, associating and collaborating with those same reprobate Rs.  Lo and behold, even the man himself can't pass the test of Trumpean purity administered by the MAGA proctors.

So I'm not questioning whether Trump can trust anyone in Congress.  I'm asking how anyone can simultaneously maintain that the R party is absolutely corrupt and that Trump merits continued trust while helping them.

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It's absolutely unfair to paint the whole Republican Party as "corrupt."  One exception easily disproves the blanket statement, and I know one guy on the Executive Board of my County who agrees with me 100%, every minute of every day.
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« Reply #96 on: January 30, 2021, 06:44:34 pm »
@HoustonSam

It's absolutely unfair to paint the whole Republican Party as "corrupt."  One exception easily disproves the blanket statement, and I know one guy on the Executive Board of my County who agrees with me 100%, every minute of every day.

@Cyber Liberty

I don't paint the whole R party as "corrupt."  But I've seen it done here, recently and often.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #97 on: January 30, 2021, 06:46:53 pm »
@HoustonSam

It's absolutely unfair to paint the whole Republican Party as "corrupt."  One exception easily disproves the blanket statement, and I know one guy on the Executive Board of my County who agrees with me 100%, every minute of every day.

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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2021, 06:49:06 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

I don't paint the whole R party as "corrupt."  But I've seen it done here, recently and often.

The head of the party is corrupt, and there are about 15 others that side with the rats.   And do you see anyone standing up to or calling out McConnel for his betrayals?   They don't dare.

THAT is why most folks on the right are pissed right now at the GOP.   For very good reason.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2021, 06:52:51 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

I don't paint the whole R party as "corrupt."  But I've seen it done here, recently and often.

No, @HoustonSam, you certainly don't and it's correct to point our there's a movement by the grassroots to change the direction the Party's had since I first became an observer. 
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