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RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« on: January 27, 2021, 11:42:57 pm »
RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral

Hannah Bleau 27 Jan 2021

The Republican National Committee (RNC) will not back former President Trump if he chooses to run for office again in 2024 and will instead remain neutral, RNC chair Ronna McDaniel indicated in a Wednesday interview with the Associated Press.

“The party has to stay neutral. I’m not telling anybody to run or not to run in 2024,” McDaniel said, walking the fine line as polls continue to indicate that a sizeable portion of the GOP base continues to back and support the former president.

“That’s going to be up to those candidates going forward. What I really do want to see him do, though, is help us win back majorities in 2022,” she told the outlet.

Jason Miller, 2020 senior adviser to the Trump campaign, stated that Trump is committed to that goal.

He said Trump “made clear his goal is to win back the House and Senate for Republicans in 2022” despite rumors of the former president planning to forge a party outside of the Republican Party.

“There’s nothing that’s actively being planned regarding an effort outside of that,” he added.

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2021, 11:45:58 pm »
NPOM.

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2021, 11:47:53 pm »
Once in awhile, there are moments when you are best served keeping your mouth shut.  Making this announcement accomplishes what?
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2021, 11:55:15 pm »
Let' see here at first Ronna says that the RNC will not back Trump if he decides to run in 2024 and would remain neutral, but then goes one to say  "What I really do want to see him do, though, is help us win back majorities in 2022,” she told the outlet.

She can go stuff herself.  She won't help him in 2024 but she wants his help in 2022. 

RONNA, you can kiss me grits and you did Trump absolutely no favors in 2020; in fact you were a detriment!!

She is one reason why I am no longer affiliated with the GOP.

She's Mittens niece ... both are absolutely useless to conservatives.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2021, 11:59:51 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 27, 2021, 11:55:15 pm
Let' see here at first Ronna says that the RNC will not back Trump if he decides to run in 2024 and would remain neutral, but then goes one to say  "What I really do want to see him do, though, is help us win back majorities in 2022,” she told the outlet.

She can go stuff herself.  She won't help him in 2024 but she wants his help in 2022. 

RONNA, you can kiss me grits and you did Trump absolutely no favors in 2020; in fact you were a detriment!!

She is one reason why I am no longer affiliated with the GOP.

She's Mittens niece ... both are absolutely useless to conservatives.

Romney has a vested interest in a divided GOP.  Helps consolidate his RINO cred.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2021, 12:04:06 am »
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2021, 12:17:29 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 27, 2021, 11:59:51 pm
Romney has a vested interest in a divided GOP.  Helps consolidate his RINO cred.

His nieces wants Trump to draw in the GOP voters in 2022, and Mittens is hoping for a win in 2024.  What a moron.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2021, 12:44:05 am »
Family first.

No mystery she will work hard to help her uncle, who is obviously running for POTUS.  He would never get elected for another term as senator, and he is speculating Trump will not run, or his name will be mud for 2024.

This is why RINOs need to be removed from the party one way or another.  RINOs are worse than Democommies, for they destroy any effort for unity in the party.

What Ronna McDaniel does not comprehend because her mind is clouded is that Uncle Mitt will never be elected again to anything of consequence.  The King Rat has only one future in politics......RETIREMENT!  I can think of half a dozen Republicans that Mitt does not rise up to their shoe sole.  Rat b*st*rd that he is.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2021, 12:46:32 am »
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2021, 01:10:17 am »
If they wanted to send a message to dry up funds, they were successful.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2021, 02:43:21 am »
The National Committee is always neutral and never supports a specific candidate during primaries and caucuses.  To suggest they should back a candidate is to suggest there should be no primaries or caucuses, just an ordination by the party elites.  I thought that was exactly what we did *not* want.

Had the RNC backed a candidate during the 2016 nomination contests Trump would never have won.  That's the way the Ds operate, not the Rs.

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2021, 02:50:48 am »
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2021, 04:36:59 am »
Quote from: HoustonSam on January 28, 2021, 02:43:21 am
The National Committee is always neutral and never supports a specific candidate during primaries and caucuses.  To suggest they should back a candidate is to suggest there should be no primaries or caucuses, just an ordination by the party elites.  I thought that was exactly what we did *not* want.

Had the RNC backed a candidate during the 2016 nomination contests Trump would never have won.  That's the way the Ds operate, not the Rs.
is that actually a true statement for incumbents?
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2021, 04:50:41 am »
What the RNC is trying to say is the Republicans are nearly done with helping the democrats throw the F to Trump and after treating Trump mercilessly, would sure like it if you would quit being mad at them by next election.  D.C.delusions are some times massive delusions.  Look what Biden is doing to our Country now to our Country with many Republicans in league with them.  They want you to give them a break, and forget how unforgiving and merciless they have been.
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2021, 03:08:33 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on January 28, 2021, 04:36:59 am
is that actually a true statement for incumbents?

That's a fair argument @IsailedawayfromFR; I might be over-stating the RNC Neutrality policy.  A short google search revealed the RNC pledging their unanimous support for Trump in 2019 even though one or two NTs had announced campaigns in a few of the states which did conduct 2020 R primaries. 

But while acknowledging your valid point, I don't amend my fundamental stance here.  If Trump runs in 2024 he won't be running as an incumbent, and the suggestion that the RNC should in any sense renounce neutrality in his favor undercuts the importance of rank-and-file R voters in primaries and caucuses.  It's those very rank-and-file voters in those primaries and caucuses, not the RNC, who chose Trump in 2016.

And I'll re-state, in a different way, what I acknowledged above.  The RNC was *not* neutral in the 2020 primaries, they supported Trump unanimously.  So the idea I routinely see expressed on TBR, that the R establishment is constantly out to stab Trump in the back, throw all power to the Ds, and personally insult each one of us, is not defensible.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2021, 03:25:40 pm »
Hes right you know, no matter how many times and how many ways Republicans sabotaged and obstructed Trump, they were just practicing their own type of loyalty.  Like Brutus did to Caesar.  Now that Biden has won and is accelerating Americas demise, lets be non-judgmental to the p.c. whores that did it, and remember, what ever they do, you can still blame Trump.  You can still wash in the democrats cesspool and come out sparkling clean, right ?  Has DU closed down and its members are moving here ?

Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump, Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump!

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2021, 04:26:15 pm »
Quote from: christian on January 28, 2021, 03:25:40 pm
Hes right you know, no matter how many times and how many ways Republicans sabotaged and obstructed Trump, they were just practicing their own type of loyalty.  Like Brutus did to Caesar.  Now that Biden has won and is accelerating Americas demise, lets be non-judgmental to the p.c. whores that did it, and remember, what ever they do, you can still blame Trump.  You can still wash in the democrats cesspool and come out sparkling clean, right ?  Has DU closed down and its members are moving here ?

Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump, Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump Blame Trump, blame Trump, Blame Trump!

Play it again, Sam.  Bogart

Lol!!!   Oh, come on, christian.   Stop beating around the bush.  Don't mince words.

Tell us how ya really feel!    :silly:
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2021, 04:56:18 pm »
Houston is correct ... the RNC is not obligated to lose another election.  Had McDaniel said anything else, she would have damaged the party's ability to field a strong candidate.  Trump only managed 46.8% against a cadaver.  He lost, time to accept it and move on.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2021, 05:03:03 pm »
Quote from: cato potatoe on January 28, 2021, 04:56:18 pm
Houston is correct ... the RNC is not obligated to lose another election.  Had McDaniel said anything else, she would have damaged the party's ability to field a strong candidate.  Trump only managed 46.8% against a cadaver.  He lost, time to accept it and move on.

There's a difference between losing fair and square....

and being defeated by illegal (cheating) means.   

And ""moving on"" from the FACT that the election was stolen from Trump and from 75 million patriots...

is not going to happen.   Especially since the cheaters and election thieves are destroying and dismantling America AS WE SPEAK, on behalf of their commie masters.

Eff that and eff anyone that suggests we should just roll over and take it (the rape analogy).

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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2021, 05:22:17 pm »
Quote from: cato potatoe on January 28, 2021, 04:56:18 pm
Houston is correct ... the RNC is not obligated to lose another election. 

Had they fought for the winner they would not have lost this one. 

Had they fought for their voters, they would not be bleeding members.  The GOP is dwindling before our eyes --- even without a third party.  The GOP is over because the people have had enough of it.
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2021, 05:33:26 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 28, 2021, 05:03:03 pm
There's a difference between losing fair and square....

and being defeated by illegal (cheating) means.   

And ""moving on"" from the FACT that the election was stolen from Trump and from 75 million patriots...

is not going to happen.   Especially since the cheaters and election thieves are destroying and dismantling America AS WE SPEAK, on behalf of their commie masters.

Eff that and eff anyone that suggests we should just roll over and take it (the rape analogy).

Do you really think 81 million Biden voters would allow Trump to be sworn in, based upon complaints about rule changes and speculation about their effects?  If Trump had a problem with it, he should have done something before the election.  Instead he whined on Twitter, ignored the riots, blew the debate, and totally botched the pandemic PR battle.  The RNC has no obligation to carry this guy's water.
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2021, 05:42:50 pm »
Quote from: cato potatoe on January 28, 2021, 05:33:26 pm
Do you really think 81 million Biden voters would allow Trump to be sworn in, based upon complaints about rule changes and speculation about their effects?  If Trump had a problem with it, he should have done something before the election.  Instead he whined on Twitter, ignored the riots, blew the debate, and totally botched the pandemic PR battle.  The RNC has no obligation to carry this guy's water.

Um... let's get something straight and clear here.    First of all...there was no way, no how, any 81 million votes 'for Biden'.   That's part of the sham, hoax and hence, election fraud.  (duh)

Secondly, if the compromised, leftist courts claimed he (we) had 'no standing' after the election theft....what the hell do you think they would have said BEFORE the election theft had even occurred (another duh).

Seriously... you guys on the other side really need to engage your brain for a refreshing change.   Just sayin....
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Re: RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2021, 05:45:07 pm »
Quote from: HoustonSam on January 28, 2021, 03:08:33 pm
So the idea I routinely see expressed on TBR, that the R establishment is constantly out to stab Trump in the back, throw all power to the Ds, and personally insult each one of us, is not defensible.

Were you laughing your ass off when you typed this   pointing-up?  @HoustonSam

Not defensible?  Did the RNC fight for its winning candidate?  Did the RNC fight for its members?

Has the RNC leadership glomed onto the Marxist bullshit that Jan 6 was an insurrection instigated by their President and his supporters an army of law-breaking rioters? 

Is part of the RNC pushing to censure the former President and include a ruling that he cannot hold public office again --- so that they can move quickly to unifying with the Marxists? 

Is the woman in the Republican #3 leadership position still supporting the conviction of the former President ... and is the gentleman in the #1 leadership position fighting to convince GOP members she's fit to keep her leadership position?

"Not defensible" --- buy a clue or better spin doctors.  The RNC/GOP has thrown out the baby with the bathwater, they've jumped the shark, they're critically bleeding from self-inflicted wounds.

One way or the other, your GOP/RNC is over.  You've not only thrown away your North Star --- but your members, as well.

Get thee behind us.

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2021, 06:02:16 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 28, 2021, 05:22:17 pm
Had they fought for the winner they would not have lost this one.
I don't know what national-level Rs could have done after election day that actually would have changed the outcome.  State level Rs in numerous states joined the Paxton challenge to Pennsylvania but we know SCOTUS punted on first down with the ball in scoring territory; state level Rs in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, etc, should have been much more assertive within their states to reject certification or de-certify.  But on the national level, without a majority in the US HoR they were never going to challenge successfully any EVs.  And the idea that Pence should have asserted authority to reject state-certified EVs would simply empower Harris, or her appointed VP, to do the same in 2024.

The Trump campaign never developed any credible strategy after election day to claim EVs from the disputed states.  National level Rs could have screamed a lot but it wouldn't have changed the outcome.
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Had they fought for their voters, they would not be bleeding members.  The GOP is dwindling before our eyes --- even without a third party.  The GOP is over because the people have had enough of it.
I agree here completely.  If national-level Rs had screamed a lot, even without changing the outcome, they would have retained a lot more of their base membership; I suspect the same is true at state levels as well.  As it is, we see a party that simply won't fight.  So why should we support such a party?  I don't want my party to lose, but I demand that my party damn sure better fight.  Too many of the Rs just don't have fight in them.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2021, 06:18:50 pm »
Quote from: cato potatoe on January 28, 2021, 05:33:26 pm
Instead he whined on Twitter, ignored the riots, blew the debate, and totally botched the pandemic PR battle. 

Oh, goodie, more talking points from the Lincoln Project wannabe elite who spew bullshit by the bucket without an ounce of truth. 

The President must have done something right because even the massive fraud couldn't erase all of the President's gains in the 2020 election --- 11+ million more votes to keep him in office than voted to put him there.  President Trump garnered more votes than any other incumbent --- even with the massive fraud.

And those who actually believe Biden received tens of millions more votes than did Obama should investigate demented Joe's list of pharmaceuticals for personal use.   

Quote from: cato potatoe on January 28, 2021, 05:33:26 pm
The RNC has no obligation to carry this guy's water.

Absoeffinglutely wrong!  The RNC had an contractual obligation to support the President's efforts for election audits.  The RNC had the same responsibility to support its members' demands for this, too.  But instead these geniuses have chosen to throw both away.

The corrupt ship RNC/GOP cannot sink into the sea fast enough; and believe me, we WILL be checking the lifeboats for undesirables.
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