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Maybe Joe Walsh (the musician, not the idiot Never Trumper) can run for President.

Why ask me? I'm just an ordinary average guy...  :shrug: happy77

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sneakypete:
And WHY do you think the Communists of today hate Christians so much?

Or,AFATG,why organized Christian dogma has so much hatred for communism?

It's because they are both selling the same product,and like every other business,they hate competition.

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I have to hand it to you sneaky, as well as i have come to know God/Jesus i always compared what Jesus did for mankind, and what Communism has done TO mankind, and never saw them as the same.  Are you having a sober moment ?  How many more fellow wolves in sheeps clothing dwell here, sneaky?
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I have to hand it to you sneaky, as well as i have come to know God/Jesus i always compared what Jesus did for mankind, and what Communism has done TO mankind, and never saw them as the same.

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Where did I ever claim equal results? Hell,the reach/power of the various religions isn't even equal. Christianity is too fragmented due to infighting for power and wealth for that to happen.

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Are you having a sober moment?
 

I have nothing BUT sober moments. Haven't drank any alcohol or taken any drugs for recreational purposes since 1981. When I decided it was time to quit,I quit it ALL.

You ain't going to like this,but it is true none the less. I took a massive 4 way hit of windowpane LSD,and saw myself as others see me,and recognized my faults as well as my strengths. Once this happened I never had any need for an altered reality because my natural reality was all I needed,and I am happy with it for the most part. NOTHING is ever perfect 100 percent of the time,NOTHING,but you just learn to accept that reality for what it is,and roll with the punches.

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How many more fellow wolves in sheeps clothing dwell here, sneaky?

Seems to me that YOU are the one with that problem,not me.
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Wolves in sheeps clothing is an oft used Biblical term, sneaky.  Your understanding of Christianity and Communism aided by drugs ? :beer: :nono:
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Well, I think this explains why the Democrats are doing this. It's not to prevent Trump from running again; it's to widen the split in the Republican Party. Their dream is some Trumpers get mad and go off and either don't vote at all, or form a third party (at the national level) that will split the conservative vote.

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Well, I think this explains why the Democrats are doing this. It's not to prevent Trump from running again; it's to widen the split in the Republican Party. Their dream is some Trumpers get mad and go off and either don't vote at all, or form a third party (at the national level) that will split the conservative vote.

There is no Conservative vote to split.

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@christian

Gimme a break! Jesus was the original communist. Stalin and his pals didn't ban the Christian Churches in Russia and close them all down like the lies we were told,they  just made "Russian Orthodox Priest" a KGB career field. Who better to take the confessions of the clueless?

Sneakypete said:  And WHY do you think the Communists of today hate Christians so much?

Or,AFATG,why organized Christian dogma has so much hatred for communism?

It's because they are both selling the same product, and like every other business,they hate competition.

Sir Bohort:  No, it’s because they both compete for men and women and they are incompatible.  Communism is collectivism with allegiance to the state.  Karl Marx was an atheist which might explain why his philosophy was materialist. 
Christianity is individual rights and responsibilities with an allegiance to God and a focus on spiritual well-being and salvation. 
Christianity is obeying God to love Him first, love your neighbor as yourself and be responsible.  Communism is state control, obey the state.  A Christian can love a communist but hate the system.  Communism is hatred of individuality and love of state. 
Christians value every individual because all of them are made in the image of God.  Communists, being materialists, see the citizens as property.  They can be purged like herds of cattle for the greater good of the state. 
Christians have ultimate truths.  Communists cannot accept any truth since everything must bend to the state's will. 
But, when all is said and done, why do you think Jesus was a communist? 

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It won't matter.  Unless Trump succeeds in having 11/3 expunged and a new election slated, we'll never win again.  They will pack the courts and mandate anything they want to. 

Goodbye, America. You are now peasants of the Globalist NWO. No guns, no rights, no elections, no recourse available.  This is precisely what Hillary was to do once she won.  They never thought she would lose.  That unleashed hell on Trump and his voters. 

It's been nonstop persecution of our President.  The more he undoes all they have carefully slipped under our radar, the uglier those attacks have been.  They are downright desperate at this point.  They are literally losing their minds.

If you think I'm exaggerating, think again.  This is why this election was so important.  Eugenicists like Gates & Emanuel have already said that the world doesn't need 90% of the population.  Dwell on that thought for awhile.
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Sneakypete said:  And WHY do you think the Communists of today hate Christians so much?

Or,AFATG,why organized Christian dogma has so much hatred for communism?

It's because they are both selling the same product, and like every other business,they hate competition.

Sir Bohort:  No, it’s because they both compete for men and women and they are incompatible.  Communism is collectivism with allegiance to the state. 

And Christianity isn't about collectivism and unquestioned allegiance to the Christian God?

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Karl Marx was an atheist which might explain why his philosophy was materialist. 

And Preachers and especially the Catholic Church are NOT materialistic? Seriously?

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Christianity is individual rights and responsibilities with an allegiance to God and a focus on spiritual well-being and salvation.


You have all the right you need for unquestioned obedience to your church leaders,and the mystical creature known as "God".


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Christianity is obeying God to love Him first, love your neighbor as yourself and be responsible.  Communism is state control, obey the state. 

You act just like there is a difference.





 
 
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It won't matter.  Unless Trump succeeds in having 11/3 expunged and a new election slated, we'll never win again.  They will pack the courts and mandate anything they want to. 

Goodbye, America. You are now peasants of the Globalist NWO. No guns, no rights, no elections, no recourse available.  This is precisely what Hillary was to do once she won.  They never thought she would lose.  That unleashed hell on Trump and his voters. 

It's been nonstop persecution of our President.  The more he undoes all they have carefully slipped under our radar, the uglier those attacks have been.  They are downright desperate at this point.  They are literally losing their minds.

If you think I'm exaggerating, think again.  This is why this election was so important.  Eugenicists like Gates & Emanuel have already said that the world doesn't need 90% of the population.  Dwell on that thought for awhile.
Guess who they will be coming for.

@dancer  I too,believe that is our destiny.
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@dancer  I too, believe that is our destiny.
Just sad that so many don't get it, sneaky.   ****sheep****

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Gimme a break! Jesus was the original communist.

@sneakypete , there is nothing "communist" about this:

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them.  And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey.  Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents.  And likewise he who had received two gained two more also.  But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord’s money.  After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.

“So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’  His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’  He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’  His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’

“Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed.  And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’

“But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed.  So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.  So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.

‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away.  And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Matthew 25:14-30




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It won't matter.  Unless Trump succeeds in having 11/3 expunged and a new election slated, we'll never win again.  They will pack the courts and mandate anything they want to. 

Goodbye, America. You are now peasants of the Globalist NWO. No guns, no rights, no elections, no recourse available.  This is precisely what Hillary was to do once she won.  They never thought she would lose.  That unleashed hell on Trump and his voters. 

It's been nonstop persecution of our President.  The more he undoes all they have carefully slipped under our radar, the uglier those attacks have been.  They are downright desperate at this point.  They are literally losing their minds.

If you think I'm exaggerating, think again.  This is why this election was so important.  Eugenicists like Gates & Emanuel have already said that the world doesn't need 90% of the population.  Dwell on that thought for awhile.
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@dancer My thoughts exactly....  It's going to do nothing but get worse.

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And Preachers and especially the Catholic Church are NOT materialistic? Seriously?
 

You have all the right you need for unquestioned obedience to your church leaders,and the mystical creature known as "God".


You act just like there is a difference.
@sneakypete I know for a fact that God does exist.  I have not always been the loveable person you see here...lol.  When Jesus changed my heart my entire life was changed in an instant.  I don't live for myself, but for Him.  Why not ask Jesus to come into your heart?  What have you got to lose my friend?  You have everything to gain.....

Love you buddy......

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So you come out of the closet and confess to being an atheist, and atheist who preaches to Christians about who they are and what they must believe.  I must say that is quite revealing, now inform people how to be in political issues you no doubt have more substance in your back ground.  Communists are not just hostile towards Christians, but hostile to Trump too.  This election was a shining example of how people are lead astray, stupefied, Pied Piper-ed unto destruction.
Catholic and Christians have a long history of warring against each other.  Odd, how easily you lumped them together as those you know so little on the subject, sneaky.
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Seriously, here... what gives Rand Paul the 'street cred' to make such a claim?

He knows as much about who's going where as Bill Gates knows about vaccines.
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So you come out of the closet and confess to being an atheist,


@christian

Where the hell have YOU been? I "came out of the religious cult closet" when I was in the 5th grade,and started refusing to go to church and telling everybody that asked why I was refusing to go.  And since I had two uncles that were fundie preachers as well as many,many other relatives who were "drinking that Kool Aid",I have been standing for reason over superstition for over 60 years now. I even insisted the army issue me dog tags with a religious preference of "Heathen",but they refused to do it and used some wishy-washy word like "unaffiliated". I forget the actual word.

 
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atheist who preaches to Christians about who they are and what they must believe.
 

I don't give a rabid rat's ass WHAT you believe and have no interest in converting you or anyone else.

 
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Catholic and Christians have a long history of warring against each other. 

Catholics ain't Christians? Has anyone told the Pope about this?

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Odd, how easily you lumped them together as those you know so little on the subject, sneaky.


Since I am free of superstition and fear of "the big guy in the sky",I know a hell of a lot more about it that you do.
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Seriously, here... what gives Rand Paul the 'street cred' to make such a claim?

 

@DCPatriot

Near as I can tell,absolutely nothing.

Still,even a blind rat can sometimes find the cheese.
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Jesus persuaded people to follow, Communism forces people to get in line or be slaughtered, imprisoned for the lucky ones.  How depraved can some one be that can't figure that much out ?  Jesus killed no one. Obviously brain washing in socialist public education has reached us even here.
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Seriously, here... what gives Rand Paul the 'street cred' to make such a claim?

He knows as much about who's going where as Bill Gates knows about vaccines.

He knows more about what's going on than 95% of the other slugs currently populating the halls of congress.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Jesus persuaded people to follow, Communism forces people to get in line or be slaughtered, imprisoned for the lucky ones.  How depraved can some one be that can't figure that much out ?  Jesus killed no one. Obviously brain washing in socialist public education has reached us even here.

@christian

So true,and people like you are living proof.

BTW,WHAT is "Christianity" if not socialism/communism?
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The back and forth on this thread has amply demonstrated why this republic has failed!

"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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BTW,WHAT is "Christianity" if not socialism/communism?

christian:
For all you have already seen and still don't know, your blindness is a willful one.  There are none so blind as those that will not see.  Also Biblicly, If the blind follow the blind, shall they not both end up in a ditch ?  Beware, unwary
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For all you have already seen and still don't know, your blindness is a willful one.  There are none so blind as those that will not see. Also Biblicly, If the blind follow the blind, shall they not both end up in a ditch ?  Beware, unwary

@christian

Truly prophetic words. I hope you repeat them while looking in a mirror.

Anyway,I am done with this conversation. I have no interest is "converting" you and you will never convert me,so it's a waste of time once we have both stated our positions.
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@christian

So true,and people like you are living proof.

BTW,WHAT is "Christianity" if not socialism/communism?

Not trying to prosthelytize, but since you asked...

One difference is that with Christianity the individual voluntarily makes sacrifices for others, whereas with socialism/communism, the government forces you to do that with an implied threat of violence.