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They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« on: January 10, 2021, 05:19:17 pm »
They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends

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They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends

The fascists are changing the rules again. House Democrats plan to send articles of impeachment against President Donald John Trump to the Senate next week to be taken up after the inauguration of Biden.

Impeachment is a removal from public office, which means Mitch, Schumer, and Nancy are conspiring to make an unconstitutional, illegal, and unAmerican move.

Zero Hedge laid it out, citing a Washington Post story.

The Senate already decided it will not take up any substantive business until after the inauguration. Under its arcane rules, it would require unanimous consent to conduct any business. This works in favor of the Democrats.

The delay means Chuck Schumer will be majority leader. It also means that Chief Justice John Roberts would not preside over the trial because Donald Trump would not be president. This is mind bending logic but then again removing someone from office who no longer holds that office is preposterous.

Perhaps they can impeach George Washington for owning slaves. Sure. The British Parliament made Oliver Cromwell stand trial post-mortem.

The goal is clear. Zero Hedge reported, "If Trump is successfully impeached, Congress could disqualify him from running for president again."
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2021, 05:27:50 pm »
 

As I have said before, I think their ultimate intent is to (1) Show DJT shackled and arrested (2) Destroy every other conservative law maker as an accessory to Trump. (3) Grease the skids to their socialist utopia. (4) Hunt down and marginalize every Trump voter
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2021, 05:51:36 pm »
The Seven Commandments

  • Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy. While having four legs is good, having two legs is better.

  • Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.

  • No animal shall wear clothes.

  • No animal shall sleep in a bed  with sheets.

  • No animal shall drink alcohol  to excess.

  • No animal shall kill any other animal  without cause.

  • All animals are equal While all animals are equal, some are more equal than others.



So it goes with the new impeachment rules.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2021, 05:54:42 pm »
The Seven Commandments



So many many Rand and Orwellian references today.  Day of Dystopia at hand?
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2021, 05:57:47 pm »
And still there are people on this forum who are perfectly OK with it because it champions Orange Man Bad.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2021, 08:00:41 pm »
And still there are people on this forum who are perfectly OK with it because it champions Orange Man Bad.

We are witnessing the end of the Republic.

Rationality is being replaced with a new "woke" theocracy.

The more they seek to persecute Trump the greater my resolve to support him.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2021, 08:05:35 pm »
The more they seek to persecute Trump the greater my resolve to support him.

This has been my position as well.  A big part of my character makeup is to empathize and defend someone being persecuted.  This more than anything else brought me around to support Trump.  It wasn't the wall, trade, energy independence, or the judiciary.  It was because he has been ruthlessly bombarded with false attacks and accusations for over four years, combined with the false Russiagate scandal.  And this empathy has only been enhanced by the illegalities and abuse of government power that the other side has been engaged in even before he took office.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2021, 08:16:27 pm »
This would be a bill of attainder then right?

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2021, 08:24:50 pm »
This has been my position as well.  A big part of my character makeup is to empathize and defend someone being persecuted.  This more than anything else brought me around to support Trump.  It wasn't the wall, trade, energy independence, or the judiciary.  It was because he has been ruthlessly bombarded with false attacks and accusations for over four years, combined with the false Russiagate scandal.  And this empathy has only been enhanced by the illegalities and abuse of government power that the other side has been engaged in even before he took office.
include me in that as well. Half of my support for Trump has been the job he’s done. The other half is because i hate a dogpile.

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2021, 08:38:20 pm »
This has been my position as well.  A big part of my character makeup is to empathize and defend someone being persecuted.  This more than anything else brought me around to support Trump.  It wasn't the wall, trade, energy independence, or the judiciary.  It was because he has been ruthlessly bombarded with false attacks and accusations for over four years, combined with the false Russiagate scandal.  And this empathy has only been enhanced by the illegalities and abuse of government power that the other side has been engaged in even before he took office.

This is the Born Again Christian in you.

The left thinks they are going to crush Trump and in turn his supporters. They won't!

I think we will see stronger alternative sources of social media, news and eventually a new political party emerge. Our voices will be heard.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2021, 08:41:34 pm »
include me in that as well. Half of my support for Trump has been the job he’s done. The other half is because i hate a dogpile.

 :amen:

I believe the more the fascists persecute Trump and us the more people will want to join us. We just can't waver and we must end the careers of those Pubs that abandoned us.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2021, 08:55:51 pm »
I read somewhere that Pelosi wants to remove Trump's USSS protection. Sure, that makes sense. Every other former president is protected, but not the guy her people already have vowed violence against.
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2021, 09:10:15 pm »
include me in that as well. Half of my support for Trump has been the job he’s done. The other half is because i hate a dogpile.

I see that - But that is part and parcel with a chaos con. Piss everybody off and then play the martyr card. It is in my nature to see that - and that is perhaps why I am immune, whether fairly or not.

A TON of his troubles he made for himself. On purpose. You can't go all crybaby about it when they are out to get you because of that.

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2021, 09:16:33 pm »
I see that - But that is part and parcel with a chaos con. Piss everybody off and then play the martyr card. It is in my nature to see that - and that is perhaps why I am immune, whether fairly or not.

A TON of his troubles he made for himself. On purpose. You can't go all crybaby about it when they are out to get you because of that.

Jussayin. And you can watch him work that play. He does it all the time.
I reject your characterization. Blaming his name calling for why he's being pummeled now is a gross simplification - his detractors have made him look like a kindergartner where it comes to insults. The man was doomed from the first time he said he would drain the swamp.

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2021, 09:40:10 pm »
I reject your characterization. Blaming his name calling for why he's being pummeled now is a gross simplification - his detractors have made him look like a kindergartner where it comes to insults. The man was doomed from the first time he said he would drain the swamp.

Trump was doomed long before he took the oath of office.  If your remember McConnell himself vowed that should Trump win he would be a one term president and there were others who vowed the same.  Shortly after, Trump had a meeting with McConnell, but reports didn't reveal about what.  He also met with Priebus ... again reports didn't reveal details.

I do think it is probably that Trump made a deal with McConnell, Priebus, Sessions and others to get elected. Trump's nomination was rushed through at the convention and if I'm recalling correctly a final vote was never taken.

I have always questioned his selection of Pence. Pence was relatively unknown, seemingly a RINO at best and he has the personality of a grapefruit. 

Perhaps Trump's "Art of the Deals" ultimately backfired??
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2021, 09:53:46 pm »
A Warning From History to the Dems.

Hitler's Rise to Power started when they put him on Trial for the Beer Hall Putsch.

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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2021, 09:56:55 pm »

Perhaps Trump's "Art of the Deals" ultimately backfired??

We may find the value of Trump's win akin to that of Goldwater winning the Nomination in 1964, and the GOP's sabotaging him in the General.     But that eventually planted the seeds for the rise of Ronald Reagan.   So it remains to be seen as to whom the Reagan will be from this.

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2021, 09:57:58 pm »
Trump was doomed long before he took the oath of office.  If your remember McConnell himself vowed that should Trump win he would be a one term president and there were others who vowed the same.  Shortly after, Trump had a meeting with McConnell, but reports didn't reveal about what.  He also met with Priebus ... again reports didn't reveal details.

I do think it is probably that Trump made a deal with McConnell, Priebus, Sessions and others to get elected. Trump's nomination was rushed through at the convention and if I'm recalling correctly a final vote was never taken.

I have always questioned his selection of Pence. Pence was relatively unknown, seemingly a RINO at best and he has the personality of a grapefruit. 

Perhaps Trump's "Art of the Deals" ultimately backfired??
Your theory makes as much sense as anything else I've heard. And I do not believe Trump had any other option but to take what McConnell offered, Art of the Deal or not.

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2021, 10:08:33 pm »
Your theory makes as much sense as anything else I've heard. And I do not believe Trump had any other option but to take what McConnell offered, Art of the Deal or not.

McConnell had more power than Trump.   Anyone not on his list was DOA in the Senate,  and McConnell is perfectly happy to be in the minority again, so winning didn't really matter to him,  he was the happiest man in America on Tuesday night.

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2021, 10:10:37 pm »
Your theory makes as much sense as anything else I've heard. And I do not believe Trump had any other option but to take what McConnell offered, Art of the Deal or not.

I still have so many unanswered questions about Trump and some doubts.  At this point in time, better left unstated.  Our country is really hurting and I truly fear the future.

I've decided to take a step back and reassess a lot of things and refrain from further comment on some issues.
 

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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2021, 10:56:11 pm »
I still have so many unanswered questions about Trump and some doubts.  At this point in time, better left unstated.  Our country is really hurting and I truly fear the future.

I've decided to take a step back and reassess a lot of things and refrain from further comment on some issues.

I do agree with your opinion of Pence, never did figure that one out..
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Re: They plan to impeach Trump after his term ends by Don Surber
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2021, 11:28:06 pm »


As I have said before, I think their ultimate intent is to (1) Show DJT shackled and arrested (2) Destroy every other conservative law maker as an accessory to Trump. (3) Grease the skids to their socialist utopia. (4) Hunt down and marginalize every Trump voter

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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2021, 11:34:16 pm »
:amen:

I believe the more the fascists persecute Trump and us the more people will want to join us. We just can't waver and we must end the careers of those Pubs that abandoned us.

Can't you see?   You were abandoned by Trump.    HIs idiot move cost him everything,  and imperils everything you worked for.   Why does he deserve your loyalty?   
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2021, 11:34:22 pm »
I still have so many unanswered questions about Trump and some doubts.  At this point in time, better left unstated.  Our country is really hurting and I truly fear the future.

I've decided to take a step back and reassess a lot of things and refrain from further comment on some issues.
I think Trump himself is pretty easy to figure out, he's been saying the same things about whats wrong with the federal government since the eighties.

Whats makes things difficult to discern are the conditions and forces at work on his administration these past four years. The fact he needed the support of the party he promised to reform accounts for many of the question you have - he promised his base some things it ended up being impossible for him to deliver.

One thing is certain, the 'swamp' believes they prevailed and are pulling out the stops to make certain they never lose complete control again.

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