If the Supremes don't act soon, John Roberts will end up the scapegoat

[mystery-ak]

January 3, 2021
If the Supremes don't act soon, John Roberts will end up the scapegoat
By Douglas Herz

The numbers simply do not add up.  In the 2000 general election, Al Gore had two chances to make his case before the Supreme Court for voter fraud in one state — Florida — on the flimsiest of evidence (hanging chads and the like).  In 2020, Donald Trump has had zero chances to argue his several cases for voter fraud in multiple states via unprecedented serious violations of election law: lax law enforcement, compromised voting machines, and multiple ballot-counting deceits.  So the Democrats get two chances with the Supremes to overturn the vote in a single state with a single example of possible fraud, while Republicans get no chances in many states with multiple fraud mechanisms.  It doesn't add up.  In fact, it stinks to high heaven.  The double-standard in the Democrats' favor is breathtakingly hideous.

The Supreme Court had better get off their useless Trump-hating behinds and start ruling on general election fraud ASAP, or there will be hell to pay.

The chief justice is in dire peril of ruining the reputation of his Court if he continues to hide while our Constitution is being trampled by corrupt Democrats.  He had better act, and soon.  If he does nothing, the American people will believe he is a voter fraud enabler.  Without a fair hearing for Republicans, he will be the first to be blamed for the failure of the Trump team to get judicial traction.

John Roberts ought to ponder what that means.

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[Smokin Joe]

What does he have to lose? Either he becomes a "Hero of the Revolution" or he goes down in History as one of the most sold out unconstitutional chief justices in the history of the court. His die is cast already with the ACA and the recent failure of the Court to assume original jurisdiction in the Texas suit. He has already violated his oath.

[Sighlass]

I wish I could dig up the old posts I made about him not being a great choice back in the day before he was voted in. Sure would make a great "I told ya so" moment. Water under the bridge now, but about all I got left in me is to gloat about some of predictions I made that came out right.

[sneakypete]

January 3, 2021
If the Supremes don't act soon, John Roberts will end up the scapegoat
By Douglas Herz

The numbers simply do not add up.  In the 2000 general election, Al Gore had two chances to make his case before the Supreme Court for voter fraud in one state — Florida — on the flimsiest of evidence (hanging chads and the like).  In 2020, Donald Trump has had zero chances to argue his several cases for voter fraud in multiple states via unprecedented serious violations of election law: lax law enforcement, compromised voting machines, and multiple ballot-counting deceits.  So the Democrats get two chances with the Supremes to overturn the vote in a single state with a single example of possible fraud, while Republicans get no chances in many states with multiple fraud mechanisms.  It doesn't add up.  In fact, it stinks to high heaven.  The double-standard in the Democrats' favor is breathtakingly hideous.

The Supreme Court had better get off their useless Trump-hating behinds and start ruling on general election fraud ASAP, or there will be hell to pay.

The chief justice is in dire peril of ruining the reputation of his Court if he continues to hide while our Constitution is being trampled by corrupt Democrats.  He had better act, and soon.  If he does nothing, the American people will believe he is a voter fraud enabler.  Without a fair hearing for Republicans, he will be the first to be blamed for the failure of the Trump team to get judicial traction.

John Roberts ought to ponder what that means.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/if_the_supremes_dont_act_soon_john_roberts_will_end_up_the_scapegoat.html

@mystery-ak

John Roberts is too busy pondering his future if it is revealed he is a homosexual child molester that married and bought his adopted children in order to appear "normal".

His white children who were adopted from Argentina,home of Nazi war criminals in hiding.

That boy has so many skeletons in his closet he must have trouble closing the door.

[catfish1957]

@mystery-ak

John Roberts is too busy pondering his future if it is revealed he is a homosexual child molester that married and bought his adopted children in order to appear "normal".

His white children who were adopted from Argentina,home of Nazi war criminals in hiding.

That boy has so many skeletons in his closet he must have trouble closing the door.

Someone a while back did an excellent analysis of how Roberts voted on close and extremely important cases.  Honestly, it is not possible to be that conflicted ideologically to vote like he does.

His ACA vote conflicted every thing else he ever ruled on, on similar matters.   Yeah....  someone has dirt on him.

[skeeter]

No, being a scapegoat implies innocence.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, being a scapegoat implies innocence.

 

[goatprairie]

The SC won't act soon, and there won't be hell to pay. Nobody is going to do anything about an election that was fairly won by a political hack named Joe Biden except their normal constitutional duties.

[dfwgator]

I wish I could dig up the old posts I made about him not being a great choice back in the day before he was voted in. Sure would make a great "I told ya so" moment. Water under the bridge now, but about all I got left in me is to gloat about some of predictions I made that came out right.

Dumbya fooled us on a lot of things, didn't he?

[Right_in_Virginia]

an election that was fairly won by a political hack named Joe Biden

This claim has been proven incorrect

[goatprairie]

This claim has been proven incorrect

Let me see.....after about one week of delay the numbers read that Biden had about seven or eight million more popular votes than Trump and 74 more electoral votes.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having 270 or more electoral votes makes the person with those numbers the winner of the presidential election. That would be Joe Biden. He's the winner, Trump is the loser.

[catfish1957]

Let me see.....after about one week of delay the numbers read that Biden had about seven or eight million more popular votes than Trump and 74 more electoral votes.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having 270 or more electoral votes makes the person with those numbers the winner of the presidential election. That would be Joe Biden. He's the winner, Trump is the loser.

Go back to the TBR election thread.  Up to 12:30 CDT the night of the election Trump was building leads in all the swing states.  At 12: 30 the count mysteriously stopped and ALL media outlets quickly moved to maps and narratives of how Biden had electoral outs.  What ensued with instant reversal defied plausibility, unless you buy off on the Unicorns and Skittles theory.

If you are naive enough to think this thing wasn't hijacked, then I really don't what can help you.

[XenaLee]

Let me see.....after about one week of delay the numbers read that Biden had about seven or eight million more popular votes than Trump and 74 more electoral votes.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having 270 or more electoral votes makes the person with those numbers the winner of the presidential election. That would be Joe Biden. He's the winner, Trump is the loser.

Nah.   If this election theft-by-Biden's-handlers BS isn't overturned, Americans.... ALL Americans (even the stuckonstupid ones)....

will be the losers.

[goatprairie]

Nah.   If this election theft-by-Biden's-handlers BS isn't overturned, Americans.... ALL Americans (even the stuckonstupid ones)....

will be the losers.

The only stealing that's going on is Trump trying to steal an election he lost fairly, squarely, and bigly.

[XenaLee]

The only stealing that's going on is Trump trying to steal an election he lost fairly, squarely, and bigly.

Wrong.   But hey.... thanks for self-identifying yourself here.   The honesty is much appreciated.

[catfish1957]

The only stealing that's going on is Trump trying to steal an election he lost fairly, squarely, and bigly.

WOW!!!!...   Finally outted yourself didn't you?

[skeeter]

The only stealing that's going on is Trump trying to steal an election he lost fairly, squarely, and bigly.

Gotta agree with others here - you're throwing yourself into this campaign of your's far too energetically.

[goatprairie]

Gotta agree with others here - you're throwing yourself into this campaign of your's far too energetically.

I'm trying to get people stop worshipping at the altar of a false god.  Trump lost and is now proving what a low character he actually is.

[Bigun]

I'm trying to get people stop worshipping at the altar of a false god.  Trump lost and is now proving what a low character he actually is.

Nope!  You are proving that you have absolutely zero regard for the rule of law and our way of life.

[Smokin Joe]

Nope!  You are proving that you have absolutely zero regard for the rule of law and our way of life.

THIS!   

It is delusional to hate Trump so badly that one would want the Constitution and the sanctity of elections violated to be rid of him.

No Republican proposed cheating or voter fraud to get rid of Obama, no matter how much distaste we had for him, the Mooch, or their politics.

[roamer_1]

THIS!   

It is delusional to hate Trump so badly that one would want the Constitution and the sanctity of elections violated to be rid of him.

No Republican proposed cheating or voter fraud to get rid of Obama, no matter how much distaste we had for him, the Mooch, or their politics.

@Smokin Joe
@Bigun
@goatprairie

Naw - That ain't right. Goat has been respected here and that other site for a long time. And now he's under the bus because he won't march in lockstep with y'all? What the hell is that?

NO - Y'all don't have evidence - you have allegations that remain as yet unproven. This is all being tried in the court of public opinion, and we all know how bright that court shines.

And I say that as a proponent - I am standing WITH y'all on this. I think the cheat happened.
But I also have said over and over that the hard part is always proving it. All it takes is someone with an eye that is just a bit more jaundiced than mine with regard to these allegations to wind up right where Goat is. I can respect that difference... Even if he is the virulent Tump-hater y'all accuse him of being. Tumpy ain't the point here. Conservatism is.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe
@Bigun
@goatprairie

Naw - That ain't right. Goat has been respected here and that other site for a long time. And now he's under the bus because he won't march in lockstep with y'all? What the hell is that?

NO - Y'all don't have evidence - you have allegations that remain as yet unproven. This is all being tried in the court of public opinion, and we all know how bright that court shines.

And I say that as a proponent - I am standing WITH y'all on this. I think the cheat happened.
But I also have said over and over that the hard part is always proving it. All it takes is someone with an eye that is just a bit more jaundiced than mine with regard to these allegations to wind up right where Goat is. I can respect that difference... Even if he is the virulent Tump-hater y'all accuse him of being. Tumpy ain't the point here. Conservatism is.

But it isn't being tried in the court of public opinion. Vast numbers of the public are not hearing about fraud, are not seeing the video statements or images of improprieties in the election, and there is more, from pulled Youtube channels to censorship on twitter and facebook, and "independent" Leftist fackcheckers denying anything which hints at impropriety.
But don't get lost in the Cloward-Piven morass of the accounts of fraud.

The alteration by non legislative actors, from Governors to Secretaries of State, to local officials of election laws and rules IS in defiance of the Constitutional requirement that those changes be made by the respective legislatures, and in some cases is in defiance of State legislation regarding making changes to those requirements as well.

Not about Trump, but about the Constitution and elections.

Using COVID as an excuse is especially questionable when the very medical establishment that is supposed to be lessening the impact of the pandemic has shut down discussion of treatments which, by many accounts in the US and by the usage abroad indicate those treatment regimens are effective if administered early, are available, and cheap, instead insisting on economically devastating lockdowns, the loss of rights, and the usurpation of power allegedly for the public benefit, and now, there is talk of restricting commerce and travel if one does not take a vaccine that may not be effective, and may be completely, or nearly completely unnecessary. There is more to that, that I will not broach here because it is off topic, but is being imposed by people whose interests align with Biden's love of China, and reek of corruption and control.

[Bigun]

@Smokin Joe
@Bigun
@goatprairie

Naw - That ain't right. Goat has been respected here and that other site for a long time. And now he's under the bus because he won't march in lockstep with y'all? What the hell is that?

NO - Y'all don't have evidence - you have allegations that remain as yet unproven. This is all being tried in the court of public opinion, and we all know how bright that court shines.

And I say that as a proponent - I am standing WITH y'all on this. I think the cheat happened.
But I also have said over and over that the hard part is always proving it. All it takes is someone with an eye that is just a bit more jaundiced than mine with regard to these allegations to wind up right where Goat is. I can respect that difference... Even if he is the virulent Tump-hater y'all accuse him of being. Tumpy ain't the point here. Conservatism is.

Show me the court that can see evidence it flatly refuses to look at even when directly required by the Constitution to do so @roamer_1

[skeeter]

Show me the court that can see evidence it flatly refuses to look at even when directly required by the Constitution to do so @roamer_1

All the circumstantial evidence is there - obviously massive fraud occurred. But all the hard evidence that resulted in the circumstantial evidence we see has been eliminated. No body, no murder. So Trump's legal team cannot even mention the word 'fraud' in their court briefs or they risk being sanctioned for 'frivolous' charges by the court. They've been screwed, legally speaking. The only remaining option is a political one. And with the rat media and Big Tech seeing that most of the nation remains ignorant as to what obviously happened public pressure will simply not be enough for Trump to prevail. Not to mention dickiebirds like Romney and Murkowski just waiting to slam the lid on his administration.

I'm afraid the best thing we can expect is the entire record is laid out for posterity. Even so alot of good that'll do us.

[roamer_1]

But it isn't being tried in the court of public opinion. Vast numbers of the public are not hearing about fraud, are not seeing the video statements or images of improprieties in the election, and there is more, from pulled Youtube channels to censorship on twitter and facebook, and "independent" Leftist fackcheckers denying anything which hints at impropriety.
But don't get lost in the Cloward-Piven morass of the accounts of fraud.

Well, yes and no - I get what you're saying about censorship. But YES, unequivocally, this whole mess is undoubtedly being tried in the court of public opinion - It certainly has gained no traction being tried by law. And it is the trial by law that matters wrt legitimacy.

And as far as the censorship is concerned - That much is true, but I have some reservations as to its efficacy, as FOX so readily examples. If the press is truly and effectively pulling the wool, then how to you explain Fox's profound and immediate fall from grace? Folks are getting the message alright.  More folks than not are aware of the censorship going on, so it winds up that censorship is mainly the left preaching to their own dang choir. What I think the right neglects is their own doing likewise.

The alteration by non legislative actors, from Governors to Secretaries of State, to local officials of election laws and rules IS in defiance of the Constitutional requirement that those changes be made by the respective legislatures, and in some cases is in defiance of State legislation regarding making changes to those requirements as well.

I think that may be right. But that requires corruption at a level that nearly requires a tinfoil hat by the average bystander. If I pull back and look at that accusation - Does it make sense that the entire judicial system refuses to give it traction? With Republicans at the levers of power in many cases?

Not about Trump, but about the Constitution and elections.

That's right - And why I have the occasion to join with all y'all in it... But I can see @goatprairie from here.

Using COVID as an excuse is especially questionable when the very medical establishment that is supposed to be lessening the impact of the pandemic has shut down discussion of treatments which, by many accounts in the US and by the usage abroad indicate those treatment regimens are effective if administered early, are available, and cheap, instead insisting on economically devastating lockdowns, the loss of rights, and the usurpation of power allegedly for the public benefit, and now, there is talk of restricting commerce and travel if one does not take a vaccine that may not be effective, and may be completely, or nearly completely unnecessary. There is more to that, that I will not broach here because it is off topic, but is being imposed by people whose interests align with Biden's love of China, and reek of corruption and control.

Absolutely agree with that - Except the 'China, China, China' is nearly as lame as 'Russia, Russia, Russia'... I will bet money the real players ain't either one of them... And again, the Woohan is on a far larger scale than Tumpy and the US elections. That is world-wide.