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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2020, 08:54:25 pm »
I wish I could get there but I just don't know how. Not giving a sh*t has never been possible for me but I obviously need to learn how to do that.

The only thing that I could do would be to get on a METRO train and go down to the Capitol grounds and serve Justice, which would be tantamount to "Suicide by Cop".

And I would NOT bring that type of scrutiny to my family.

Unfortunately, I honestly believe we've reached that level.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2020, 08:57:35 pm »
The only thing that I could do would be to get on a METRO train and go down to the Capitol grounds and serve Justice, which would be tantamount to "Suicide by Cop".

And I would NOT bring that type of scrutiny to my family.

Unfortunately, I honestly believe we've reached that level.
When enough people reach that level, the definition will change, and the chances of survival will increase, at least marginally. Wait for it....
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2020, 09:14:31 pm »
I guess being a conservative means living in perpetual anger. Doesn't sound like a recipe for a happy life. No wonder no one wants to be a conservative lately.

Anger is a rational response to the death of meaningful electoral processes and the rule of law when one party is hell-bent for power by any means and the other will accept any outcome so long as they retain their sinecures.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2020, 09:32:24 pm »
When enough people reach that level, the definition will change, and the chances of survival will increase, at least marginally. Wait for it....

It's impossible to win on the 'battlefield' when one side adheres to the gentlemanly cultural decorum (think British Redcoats bearing muskets) and the other side hides up and/or behind trees and uses ambush as a strategy.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2020, 09:35:49 pm »
It's impossible to win on the 'battlefield' when one side adheres to the gentlemanly cultural decorum (think British Redcoats bearing muskets) and the other side hides up and/or behind trees and uses ambush as a strategy.
A better analogy is a Globetrotters game - its entertainment, perennial losers the Generals are just happy to be employed and everyone makes a little money.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2020, 09:39:34 pm »
A better analogy is a Globetrotters game - its entertainment, perennial losers the Generals are just happy to be employed and everyone makes a little money.
Excellent analogy.  The Redcoats wanted to win, and frequently did; the Generals, no.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2020, 09:49:22 pm »
Is it? Seems true to me.

What a coinky-dink!  That convinced me it's a lie.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2020, 10:54:22 pm »
It's impossible to win on the 'battlefield' when one side adheres to the gentlemanly cultural decorum (think British Redcoats bearing muskets) and the other side hides up and/or behind trees and uses ambush as a strategy.
Politically, in the halls of power, that seems to be the case.

One side has not taken to the field otherwise, and I would not underestimate the ability to deal with tactical situations well. Just that there is no no one in the political end who can be relied upon.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2020, 11:09:56 pm »
Politically, in the halls of power, that seems to be the case.

One side has not taken to the field otherwise, and I would not underestimate the ability to deal with tactical situations well. Just that there is no no one in the political end who can be relied upon.

From the sidelines it looks like the Sisters of Mercy (us) vs. Attila & the Huns (them)

One side believes in prayer and the other side believe in ripping off your face and showing it to you.

And the sideline seats are filled with WTF's and @kevindavis 's who actually believe President Trump was defeated at the polls.

It's nauseating to me.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2020, 11:46:32 pm »
From the sidelines it looks like the Sisters of Mercy (us) vs. Attila & the Huns (them)

One side believes in prayer and the other side believe in ripping off your face and showing it to you.

And the sideline seats are filled with WTF's and @kevindavis 's who actually believe President Trump was defeated at the polls.

It's nauseating to me.
Who pays attention to the sideline seats. Those folks are neither here nor there.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2020, 11:48:52 pm »
RinVa wrote:
"That this stolen election returns the coup plotters to the height of power and influence makes my head explode and is forcing me to sit back and watch our government implode under the weight of its own corruption.  Actually, I'm beginning to pray for it."

And skeeter replied:
"Total implosion of the government is the only path to salvation. But boy is it gonna hurt."

Fishrrman:
The government IS NOT going to "implode".
Au contraire.
It's going to be taken over and converted by those who have probably been working behind the scenes for several decades now.
For decades, they've been "playing the long game". Or, as put quite succinctly by communist activist Rudi Dutschke, they've conducted a "long march through the institutions" -- a march which is now on the verge of success.

The leftists/communists have built a successful "underground election apparatus" which can now control elections in several swing states. What you saw transpire on November 3rd is but the beginning; before long, they'll have this refined and will "aim at" numerous Congressional contests as well (let's see how they do in Georgia on January 5).

If they can swing those contests, I'll agree with what skeeter wrote above:
"Boy, is it gonna hurt".

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2020, 12:23:35 am »
RinVa wrote:
"That this stolen election returns the coup plotters to the height of power and influence makes my head explode and is forcing me to sit back and watch our government implode under the weight of its own corruption.  Actually, I'm beginning to pray for it."

And skeeter replied:
"Total implosion of the government is the only path to salvation. But boy is it gonna hurt."

Fishrrman:
The government IS NOT going to "implode".
Au contraire.
It's going to be taken over and converted by those who have probably been working behind the scenes for several decades now.
For decades, they've been "playing the long game". Or, as put quite succinctly by communist activist Rudi Dutschke, they've conducted a "long march through the institutions" -- a march which is now on the verge of success.

The leftists/communists have built a successful "underground election apparatus" which can now control elections in several swing states. What you saw transpire on November 3rd is but the beginning; before long, they'll have this refined and will "aim at" numerous Congressional contests as well (let's see how they do in Georgia on January 5).

If they can swing those contests, I'll agree with what skeeter wrote above:
"Boy, is it gonna hurt".

That only holds true if 'We the People' continue to utilize their "election apparatus".  We either concede and let them control us, or 'We the People' stand up for our Republic and ultimately our Constitution.  We need to rebuild completely -- and my hunch is that once the Biden regime gets started there will be those on that side more than willing to join us.

How we accomplish that is the question.

I've raised this idea many times.  I don't have all the answers and hopefully once the Republican party dies ...people will get on board.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2020, 12:38:21 am »
RinVa wrote:
"That this stolen election returns the coup plotters to the height of power and influence makes my head explode and is forcing me to sit back and watch our government implode under the weight of its own corruption.  Actually, I'm beginning to pray for it."

And skeeter replied:
"Total implosion of the government is the only path to salvation. But boy is it gonna hurt."

Fishrrman:
The government IS NOT going to "implode".
Au contraire.
It's going to be taken over and converted by those who have probably been working behind the scenes for several decades now.
For decades, they've been "playing the long game". Or, as put quite succinctly by communist activist Rudi Dutschke, they've conducted a "long march through the institutions" -- a march which is now on the verge of success.

The leftists/communists have built a successful "underground election apparatus" which can now control elections in several swing states. What you saw transpire on November 3rd is but the beginning; before long, they'll have this refined and will "aim at" numerous Congressional contests as well (let's see how they do in Georgia on January 5).

If they can swing those contests, I'll agree with what skeeter wrote above:
"Boy, is it gonna hurt".
Communists have only had success where there has been a large underclass. Our huge middle class has always been America's bulwark against a socialist takeover. Even as the socialists have made incremental gains America still remains a relatively free country where each can acquire property and strive for a better life.

As long as most Americans have something to lose in a true communist takeover they will not tolerate it. It may take them some time to recognize it, but when they eventually do the spam will hit the fan.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2020, 12:48:10 am »
Communists have only had success where there has been a large underclass. Our huge middle class has always been America's bulwark against a socialist takeover. Even as the socialists have made incremental gains America still remains a relatively free country where each can acquire property and strive for a better life.

As long as most Americans have something to lose in a true communist takeover they will not tolerate it. It may take them some time to recognize it, but when they eventually do the spam will hit the fan.

Part of the "California model" seems to be the reduction/elimination of the middle class.  I believe "The Golden State" has a larger absolute number of people on welfare than any other state (I stand to be corrected), a significant net negative flux of U hauls as those who are able leave for (temporarily) redder pastures, and of course an entrenched caste of coastal elites who are happy to force the cost of their virtue onto everyone else.

Coming soon to a theater near you......

If we see something like a continued socialist/communist takeover in California and perhaps the other west coast states, I believe the Constitutional Principle of Incorporation and the interpretation of the Commerce Clause will quickly be strained as the rest of us resist.  If those doctrines can be changed there might be hope for a looser and perhaps "less perfect" union; more optimistically, a return to Federalism.  But if the Federal Judiciary insists on current interpretations then we'll be in for a difficult resolution.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2020, 02:12:50 am »
@andy58-in-nh

Excellent list of reasons, I think all four are spot on.  Unfortunately I don't find much reason to believe "the battles ahead" can be won with an army that simply refuses to fight even the most egregious and obvious examples of fraud.

And in that @HoustonSam , the folly of 'going to war with the army you have' is laid bare and raw - skirts up for every one to see.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2020, 02:16:08 am »
I guess being a conservative means living in perpetual anger. Doesn't sound like a recipe for a happy life. No wonder no one wants to be a conservative lately.

Quite the other way around really. The Conservatives I know are the happy ones.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2020, 02:18:39 am »
It's impossible to win on the 'battlefield' when one side adheres to the gentlemanly cultural decorum (think British Redcoats bearing muskets) and the other side hides up and/or behind trees and uses ambush as a strategy.

You have an entire misunderstanding of what an American gentleman is.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2020, 02:20:09 am »
A better analogy is a Globetrotters game - its entertainment, perennial losers the Generals are just happy to be employed and everyone makes a little money.

Nice! and in the end it's all a big show to satisfy the rubes...

What a great analogy...

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2020, 03:22:22 am »
Nice! and in the end it's all a big show to satisfy the rubes...

What a great analogy...
   :beer:

Still it pains me to say it.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2020, 03:33:00 am »
I've completely lost interest in what happens. I know thats what the POS statists want but its the only way for me to cope.

Its obvious nothing can be done about it anyway.

To quote Elvis Costello:  "Well I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused."

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2020, 03:40:17 am »
   :beer:

Still it pains me to say it.

So what's next? For me it was to stop buying the dang ol tickets... Turns out my life runs fine without their show.  :shrug: And it turns out there's way more to life than popcorn, soda, and cheap hot dogs.

Vaya con Cheetos to the Big Show.


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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2020, 03:51:41 am »
If the Dems sweep the Georgia senate seats, the country we all once knew dies.  Literally.

Unless there is a French style revolution where a lot of people have their head handed to them, there will be no coming back.

For many of us here, we will not be alive to suffer long with this outcome, but our children and grandchildren will be subjugated to borderline slavery, not a whole lot different than how the Ughers are treated in China.

Warnock is as close to being a communist as they come, and he is ahead in the polls here in Georgia.  Ugggh!

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2020, 03:57:34 am »
If the Dems sweep the Georgia senate seats, the country we all once knew dies.  Literally.


NAh. There's plenty of ways for it to go, Good Lord willin and the creeks don't rise. Plenty to do with states and counties and nullification. And there's that other box that ain't yet touched.

Sure as shooting, it can be fixed - But y'all have to mean it this time. Ground up and all the way.

Or else you are right as there is not now, and barring y'all meaning it, there will not be any meaningful opposition to liberalism.

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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2020, 04:00:19 am »
So what's next? For me it was to stop buying the dang ol tickets... Turns out my life runs fine without their show.  :shrug: And it turns out there's way more to life than popcorn, soda, and cheap hot dogs.

Here, here.  Disengage the prevailing "culture" to the extent you can.  I have kids in HS and college, with bills to pay to try to enable their future, so I can't disengage completely.  But I don't have to give the machine my attention, belief, or support.  While I'll never have @roamer1's self-reliance, once my obligations are fulfilled I'll be able to disengage even more.  Entertainment, sports, and social media are worse than a distraction, they're detrimental.

Think for yourself, read things that matter and endure - like the KJV - and recognize that most people do neither; you won't be in a crowd, so be sure you can manage solitude, physical and conceptual.

From time to time you might find that people seek your counsel; give it honestly and gently, and never apologize for the truth.
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Re: 2020 Election: I’m not mad, I’m furious
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2020, 04:21:01 am »
So what's next? For me it was to stop buying the dang ol tickets... Turns out my life runs fine without their show.  :shrug: And it turns out there's way more to life than popcorn, soda, and cheap hot dogs.

Vaya con Cheetos to the Big Show.


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