Are We Witnessing the Beginning of the End for Fox News?

[roamer_1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah..... we already know how you guys love to spit and scratch (and fart under the covers).   But...aside from how gross you guys can be....the topic was, I believe, about communication.   Which most men fail at.   You pretend to be listening when what we women tell you goes in one ear, spirals around for a microsecond, and goes flying out the other ear.... almost as if there is nothing between those ears in which to "register".   

Lest the point be missed, I will reiterate: We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry, and it's probably going to happen again. 

YES, btw... We are pretending to be listening... With the 2 sentence auto-rewind engaged. But that in itself is a deference and a sign of respect.

I am never ever going to be interested in 3/4ths of the stuff y'all unload when we get home... I don't give a rusty sh*t for Aunt Nellie's second cousin's sister and the troubles she might be having. I flatly don't care about all the gossip going on in the church and the neighborhood and all sorts of people I don't even know.

But it's important to you - So I pretend. And I write the check.

But lest you think that cold - I may not be listening to what you are saying, But THAT you are saying it is important to me. It's a thing a woman does only to HER man. and that is a good distinction and an honor... And while I ain't listening to what you are saying... There is a music to it that I will tell you that I truly do miss being alone.

[XenaLee]

Lest the point be missed, I will reiterate: We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry, and it's probably going to happen again. 

YES, btw... We are pretending to be listening... With the 2 sentence auto-rewind engaged. But that in itself is a deference and a sign of respect.

I am never ever going to be interested in 3/4ths of the stuff y'all unload when we get home... I don't give a rusty sh*t for Aunt Nellie's second cousin's sister and the troubles she might be having. I flatly don't care about all the gossip going on in the church and the neighborhood and all sorts of people I don't even know.

But it's important to you - So I pretend. And I write the check.

But lest you think that cold - I may not be listening to what you are saying, But THAT you are saying it is important to me. It's a thing a woman does only to HER man. and that is a good distinction and an honor... And while I ain't listening to what you are saying... There is a music to it that I will tell you that I truly do miss being alone.

Uh huh.   And you wouldn't be the only man that finds himself alone with that kind of attitude about listening to your woman.   It's either a relationship and a partnership, or it's a scam and a facade of one.   Just sayin....

[XenaLee]

Apologies to the Forum Gods for this massive "de-rail".... as fascinating as the subject is.   lololol

[Cyber Liberty]

Ok, you forced me to say this....

Is it "our" fault that you guys are incapable of comprehending plain ENGLISH?????

(lol)

[roamer_1]

Uh huh.   And you wouldn't be the only man that finds himself alone with that kind of attitude about listening to your woman.   It's either a relationship and a partnership, or it's a scam and a facade of one.   Just sayin....

Yeah right... Like you're all interested when I am telling you about my day... I see y'all glaze over when I am tellin y'all about the neat trick I did fixin on something or carrying on about hunting, or cattle or four wheel drives. I am tellin you how cool it was and YOU're nodding pleasantly and letting me go on about it... but not only don't you understand it - You ain't even there.

So come down off that high horse darlin (though you look mighty fine like that)... It ain't no different.

[XenaLee]

Yeah right... Like you're all interested when I am telling you about my day... I see y'all glaze over when I am tellin y'all about the neat trick I did fixin on something or carrying on about hunting, or cattle or four wheel drives. I am tellin you how cool it was and YOU're nodding pleasantly and letting me go on about it... but not only don't you understand it - You ain't even there.

So come down off that high horse darlin (though you look mighty fine like that)... It ain't no different.

Actually, I've always been a VERY good listener and if I don't understand something, I ask for a more detailed (lay-mans term) explanation.   Part of that is chalked up to my innate curiosity.   Here's the problem.   When I listen attentively to the man in my life, and it is not reciprocated.....

the man in my life ends up living alone.

It's a sign of disrespect to NOT listen to your significant other, btw.

[roamer_1]

Actually, I've always been a VERY good listener and if I don't understand something, I ask for a more detailed (lay-mans term) explanation.   Part of that is chalked up to my innate curiosity.   Here's the problem.   When I listen attentively to the man in my life, and it is not reciprocated.....

the man in my life ends up living alone.

It's a sign of disrespect to NOT listen to your significant other, btw.

I have always listened where it counts. It is seldom that I do any damn thing without consulting my woman. And where it is in her wheelhouse, I am likely to defer.

But I find that your position on this is mythological. At least in my experience.  Women don't damn well listen to men either. The only time it matters is where we come together - Where the experience is shared. The things done together. The rest of it is deference to how the other is and where the other is going, as much as is possible... What makes it work is when both seem to be going in the same direction, which is more or less damn near a miracle. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Am I required to listen when my wife raves on and on over a fingernail appointment?

[XenaLee]

I have always listened where it counts. It is seldom that I do any damn thing without consulting my woman. And where it is in her wheelhouse, I am likely to defer.

But I find that your position on this is mythological. At least in my experience.  Women don't damn well listen to men either. The only time it matters is where we come together - Where the experience is shared. The things done together. The rest of it is deference to how the other is and where the other is going, as much as is possible... What makes it work is when both seem to be going in the same direction, which is more or less damn near a miracle. 

Lol..... it's starting to look like you and I both have been with the "wrong" person.   

And everyone is different, I realize.  Some men are more sensitive and considerate than others, same with some women.  But I think the main issue we have here is the fundamental DIFFERENCE between men and women (yeah, obligatory duh here).

[roamer_1]

Lol..... it's starting to look like you and I both have been with the "wrong" person.   

That's right. I married a city woman and spent 25 years paying for it. Hell I am paying for it even yet.

And everyone is different, I realize.  Some men are more sensitive and considerate than others, same with some women.  But I think the main issue we have here is the fundamental DIFFERENCE between men and women (yeah, obligatory duh here).

That's right, sure enough. Don't get me wrong. I am a hard man, and stubborn. A woman is never gonna move me if she gets my neck up. So I know some of it is my own fault. Of course it is. And my way is a hard life. It takes a woman that is hella strong. So that is what I expect... Which is a tall order. So I get it, I do. 

[jafo2010]

Rupert's sons are destroying Fox News with their new format, and WHO they include.  Donna Brazile is completely offensive to me.  If she appears and I have Fox on, I change channels.  Also true of so many others on Fox.  Fox went out and hired the worst of the wingnuts in the country.

I watch OAN now, and occasionally Newsmax.  The ONLY thing I watch on Fox is Tucker Carlson, and Water's World, Judge Jeanine and Steve Hilton which are weekends program.  The rest of Fox is not worth watching.

And I cannot stand that butterball Neil Cavuto.  His hatred of Trump was the final nail for Fox.  I see the day in the not too distant future where I drop cable all together and check out of politics completely.  I can keep up with things just reading this board, and a couple sites on the net.

[berdie]

For all on this thread discussing the male/female communication "divide"...if you haven't seen it and can find it...watch Defending The Caveman. It was a comedy skit a number of years ago that I think all people about to get married should be required to see. It's hilarious...and true.

[libertybele]

Rupert's sons are destroying Fox News with their new format, and WHO they include.  Donna Brazile is completely offensive to me.  If she appears and I have Fox on, I change channels.  Also true of so many others on Fox.  Fox went out and hired the worst of the wingnuts in the country.

I watch OAN now, and occasionally Newsmax.  The ONLY thing I watch on Fox is Tucker Carlson, and Water's World, Judge Jeanine and Steve Hilton which are weekends program.  The rest of Fox is not worth watching.

And I cannot stand that butterball Neil Cavuto.  His hatred of Trump was the final nail for Fox.  I see the day in the not too distant future where I drop cable all together and check out of politics completely.  I can keep up with things just reading this board, and a couple sites on the net.

I don't watch TV.  I listen to Beck and Rush on the radio.  I get my news on the internet; primarily OAN.  I don't read FOX much anymore.

I think the more important question is; Are We Witnessing the Beginning of the End of our Republic? 

[libertybele]

Am I required to listen when my wife raves on and on over a fingernail appointment?

Well....I think I'd probably get along very well with your wife.  What are you doing at the time that you think is more important than carrying on a conversation and listening to your wife??  I get that you may not be overly excited about her nails, but she is still showing you courtesy and love in including you in what she is doing; at least you can do is acknowledge her.

Just think, one of these days she may not be around to rave about her nail appointment and you just might wish she was.

Same thing about wives complaining about their husbands messing up the kitchen or leaving fingerprints on the wall when they come in from the garage; one day you just might wish that husband was still around messing up the kitchen or leaving fingerprints on the wall.

Life is precious folks. Enjoy one another while you can.  Sure my husband annoys the living heck out of me at times (38 years of annoyances) but I thank God for him.

[Cyber Liberty]

Well....I think I'd probably get along very well with your wife.  What are you doing at the time that you think is more important than carrying on a conversation and listening to your wife??  I get that you may not be overly excited about her nails, but she is still showing you courtesy and love in including you in what she is doing; at least you can do is acknowledge her.

Just think, one of these days she may not be around to rave about her nail appointment and you just might wish she was.

Same thing about wives complaining about their husbands messing up the kitchen or leaving fingerprints on the wall when they come in from the garage; one day you just might wish that husband was still around messing up the kitchen or leaving fingerprints on the wall.

Life is precious folks. Enjoy one another while you can.  Sure my husband annoys the living heck out of me at times (38 years of annoyances) but I thank God for him.

She learned it's Ok to mention it and leave it. I acknowledge.

[Wingnut]

Not true.   Some of us actually DO communicate.

"Oh, look there, I've got a bite!"!

[XenaLee]

That's right. I married a city woman and spent 25 years paying for it. Hell I am paying for it even yet.

That's right, sure enough. Don't get me wrong. I am a hard man, and stubborn. A woman is never gonna move me if she gets my neck up. So I know some of it is my own fault. Of course it is. And my way is a hard life. It takes a woman that is hella strong. So that is what I expect... Which is a tall order. So I get it, I do. 

Perhaps.... in another life... another alternate reality....lol....we might have made a spectacular match.   And I, of course, would have brought you around to my way of thinking politically.   

 

[XenaLee]

Am I required to listen when my wife raves on and on over a fingernail appointment?

No.   That's what duck tape was created for.   

[XenaLee]

For all on this thread discussing the male/female communication "divide"...if you haven't seen it and can find it...watch Defending The Caveman. It was a comedy skit a number of years ago that I think all people about to get married should be required to see. It's hilarious...and true.

Thank you.   Never heard of it but will definitely check it out.

 

[roamer_1]

For all on this thread discussing the male/female communication "divide"...if you haven't seen it and can find it...watch Defending The Caveman. It was a comedy skit a number of years ago that I think all people about to get married should be required to see. It's hilarious...and true.

Went looking on the youtube.... And found bits and pieces of it...
I really get the 'man as a hunter' part. As a hunter, I can tell you that is how I work about everything, and it is true - I get so focused and obsessed that the whole world gets tuned out.

And women are certainly patterned more after gatherers... kinda communal and interdependent... All y'all together doing most everything. Still to this day up in the hollers, the womenfolk gather at the rapids to do laundry just like they always have done... and they do together with canning and putting up, and all sorts of things.

Men will get together too, but mostly for big projects and under established hierarchies... Sometimes paired or small groups - coyote hunting comes to mind - but mostly, left to their own way, most men are perfectly happy to be loners.

That's a major difference between the two that goes way back, and is till present to this day. I can see a deer 120 yards off in bad light, and a woman won't see it even if it moves... But I am worthless at gathering and picking - I will miss more than any woman will... and I can't find a dang thing in the fridge or the cupboard. even if it is right in front of me. 

[roamer_1]

Perhaps.... in another life... another alternate reality....lol....we might have made a spectacular match.   And I, of course, would have brought you around to my way of thinking politically.   

 

I ain't seen no difference in you and me politically, other than Tumpy... Till then you and me been side by each.

But yeah - I like your fire. It don't scare me off. I don't like the feminist types who are trying to be men... But a strong woman that is all woman is one to ride the river with... I need her to speak her mind - I rely on that for what I can't see... That's important. Women see things I don't, and I do well paying mind to that. If she's pestered about something, in my experience, I better listen because she's gonna be right.

But it's more about your crazy. I need a particular brand of crazy to put up with it... All women got it, but I require a particular kind... And plenty of it, so long as it don't include poking me with a knife (too much). If she goes off in a hot mess and I like it (or don't mind it), I would stick to that till I die.

Had one of those in my whole life. Shoulda went after it. 

[jafo2010]

What we may be watching is the end of the republic, the end of the two party system.

[Jazzhead]

Don't watch Fox news,  and don't even know if my cable lineup includes Newsmax.  But I don't watch CNN either, or television news generally.   I rely almost entirely on print sources,  although since the pandemic began I have renewed my acquaintance with talk radio.

[goatprairie]

Lest the point be missed, I will reiterate: We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry, and it's probably going to happen again. 

YES, btw... We are pretending to be listening... With the 2 sentence auto-rewind engaged. But that in itself is a deference and a sign of respect.

I am never ever going to be interested in 3/4ths of the stuff y'all unload when we get home... I don't give a rusty sh*t for Aunt Nellie's second cousin's sister and the troubles she might be having. I flatly don't care about all the gossip going on in the church and the neighborhood and all sorts of people I don't even know.

But it's important to you - So I pretend. And I write the check.

But lest you think that cold - I may not be listening to what you are saying, But THAT you are saying it is important to me. It's a thing a woman does only to HER man. and that is a good distinction and an honor... And while I ain't listening to what you are saying... There is a music to it that I will tell you that I truly do miss being alone.

At times my wife will deliver a ten minute soliloquy about events of the day, plans for the future, and other oddball stuff.
I might be able to take in half of what she says.
But she expects me to remember everything she says in detail. Which is well beyond my capability.
When I ask her about something, she will usually respond "I TOLD!!! you that yesterday...you never listen to me."
I do listen to her as far as my limited attention span allows.
But, of course, the reverse does not hold. When she asks me about something I had informed her of just that morning, I don't get upset that what I told her didn't register. I accept it as just being part of any human's limitations as far as not being able to comprehend and retain every utterance directed at them.
But does the wife agree with that...oh no.. I'm DELIBERATELY!!!! ignoring her/not paying attention.
Sorry...it will happen again, but life will go on. 

[goatprairie]

Actually, I've always been a VERY good listener and if I don't understand something, I ask for a more detailed (lay-mans term) explanation.   Part of that is chalked up to my innate curiosity.   Here's the problem.   When I listen attentively to the man in my life, and it is not reciprocated.....

the man in my life ends up living alone.

It's a sign of disrespect to NOT listen to your significant other, btw.

Huh...could you repeat that....I wasn't paying attention.