Did Chief Justice John Roberts Really Scream at Conservative Justices Over the Texas Challenge to th

[libertybele]

Cowardice is the only explanation I can come up with.

If twenty states bring a suit against 4 states and 20 others, it would seem to be of the utmost importance to at least hear them out.

I cannot think of a higher priority than to ensure the Constitution is maintained.

And they punted, scared to death.

   What a disappointment in Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett and what fools they are. To give up their integrity and surrender their duties under the oath that they took is absolutely shameful.  The DEMS will find a way to replace them should they gain control, I have no doubt.

[Cyber Liberty]

I have several "rules of bureaucrats," and here's one:  Decisions get made by this formula..."Who do I want pissed at me?"

In the case of SCOTUS punting the TX lawsuit, they decided they would rather have us pissed, than the rioting mobs.

[libertybele]

I have several "rules of bureaucrats," and here's one:  Decisions get made by this formula..."Who do I want pissed at me?"

In the case of SCOTUS punting the TX lawsuit, they decided they would rather have us pissed, than the rioting mobs.

Well, that maybe but they are going to be responsible for the fall of this Republic ....and at that point in time,IMHO they can thank themselves for causing the next Revolution or Civil War.

[Cyber Liberty]

Well, that maybe but they are going to be responsible for the fall of this Republic ....and at that point in time,IMHO they can thank themselves for causing the next Revolution or Civil War.

Do you think any of those guys give a rip?  I don't.  That's the problem!

[rustynail]

Supreme Court Responds To Claims That Roberts Screamed At Other Justices Over Texas Election Lawsuit

As guidance, the court “has been conducting its conferences remotely by phone since March when the building closed due to the pandemic,” a Supreme Court spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email on Friday in response to a question about the claim.


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supreme-court-responds-claims-roberts-screamed-other-justices-over-texas-election-lawsuit

[Cyber Liberty]

Supreme Court Responds To Claims That Roberts Screamed At Other Justices Over Texas Election Lawsuit

As guidance, the court “has been conducting its conferences remotely by phone since March when the building closed due to the pandemic,” a Supreme Court spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email on Friday in response to a question about the claim.


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supreme-court-responds-claims-roberts-screamed-other-justices-over-texas-election-lawsuit

@rustynail

I hope you noticed they did not deny they found the way they did because they were afraid of the rioting mob.

[rustynail]

And Roberts could be yelling on the phone as it would be easier for a c/s like him.

[libertybele]

Do you think any of those guys give a rip?  I don't.  That's the problem!

You are absolutely right and it is a sad reminder that they obviously don't have a conscience. It's hard to accept that those that I thought were somewhat conservative, lack any integrity.

[Cyber Liberty]

You are absolutely right and it is a sad reminder that they obviously don't have a conscience. It's hard to accept that those that I thought were somewhat conservative, lack any integrity.

Well, they way they look at it, if they destroy the Republic, then there won't be anybody around to name their names.  In fact, the new order will praise them to the heavens for destroying those rotten people who wanted to be free.

[Fishrrman]

I sailed wrote:
"Cowardice is the only explanation I can come up with.
If twenty states bring a suit against 4 states and 20 others, it would seem to be of the utmost importance to at least hear them out.
I cannot think of a higher priority than to ensure the Constitution is maintained.
And they punted, scared to death."

When I first read the story that's the subject of this thread, I wasn't sure if it could be believed, or not.

But the question should be posed, would such a conversation be plausible, considering the participants and the situation?

My conclusion is... yes.
Roberts used his position to "shout them down".

It's too bad Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett didn't have the nerve to stand up to him (although I can understand Barrett's position, being so new). With a 5-4 majority, even Roberts would have been forced to back down and hear the case.

This will go down as the pivotal moment in which the American Republic was lost, and the era of American socialism/communism became inevitable.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays

I oppose all violence, but if conservatives don't start planning and organizing now to "control the streets" in 2022 and 2024 with citizen muscle -- not police -- there's no point in even having another election. Literally.


1:14 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1339997409821085698

[Jazzhead]

A practical problem was the optics of the three Trump-appointed Justices voting to take up the case and determine the fate of the man who appointed them.

Perhaps the proper course would have been recusal, thereby letting the Court refuse to take the case by a 4 - 2 vote.   

But the better course would have been to take the case and rule against Texas on the merits.    We expect and accept the Supreme Court's role in deciding such tough questions.   But to refuse to decide and leave Texas with no forum by which it can peaceably resolve a dispute between sovereigns,  exposes a most serious flaw in the Constitutional compact that binds us.

[jmyrlefuller]

Just because we haven't doesn't mean we won't--just that if we do, there won't be any saying "I'm sorry"a afterward, and we just might take it further than the streets. When Europeans get pissed, continents burn.

They took away all your rights in March and still haven't given them back. If that won't make us riot, nothing will.

The left will fight over a guy they know nothing about, because that guy was black. We won't fight even if it's our Constitutional freedoms at stake.

[DB]

They took away all your rights in March and still haven't given them back. If that won't make us riot, nothing will.

The left will fight over a guy they know nothing about, because that guy was black. We won't fight even if it's our Constitutional freedoms at stake.

I still believe there is a threshold that once crossed where conservatives live there will be blood in the streets. Police or no police. All the leftist violence has been centered in leftist cities so far. I'm not going to bleed to protect a leftist from a leftist.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

A practical problem was the optics of the three Trump-appointed Justices voting to take up the case and determine the fate of the man who appointed them.

Perhaps the proper course would have been recusal, thereby letting the Court refuse to take the case by a 4 - 2 vote.   

But the better course would have been to take the case and rule against Texas on the merits.    We expect and accept the Supreme Court's role in deciding such tough questions.   But to refuse to decide and leave Texas with no forum by which it can peaceably resolve a dispute between sovereigns,  exposes a most serious flaw in the Constitutional compact that binds us.

Two flaws there:

First, this was not about the fate of Trump.  It was about the fate of the Constitution at the request of a state that appeared disenfranchised.

Second, how do you know about 'merits' of the case being against Texas?  The case was never heard.  Mighty nice of you to prejudge a case.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays

I oppose all violence, but if conservatives don't start planning and organizing now to "control the streets" in 2022 and 2024 with citizen muscle -- not police -- there's no point in even having another election. Literally.


1:14 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1339997409821085698

[libertybele]

I still believe there is a threshold that once crossed where conservatives live there will be blood in the streets. Police or no police. All the leftist violence has been centered in leftist cities so far. I'm not going to bleed to protect a leftist from a leftist.

This is true. I've stated it before, notice that they haven't been stopped and very little has been done to curtail the violence, but you can bet once people begin to take action in more conservative areas they will be stopped and incarcerated. Laws will be used against "us" but the lawlessness will be allowed to continue on "their" side.

[bilo]

  What a disappointment in Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett and what fools they are. To give up their integrity and surrender their duties under the oath that they took is absolutely shameful.  The DEMS will find a way to replace them should they gain control, I have no doubt.

That's the irony of it isn't it.

The Rats already made it clear that they will pack the court.

[bilo]

This is true. I've stated it before, notice that they haven't been stopped and very little has been done to curtail the violence, but you can bet once people begin to take action in more conservative areas they will be stopped and incarcerated. Laws will be used against "us" but the lawlessness will be allowed to continue on "their" side.

You're right.

The answer is to start taking over States by electing people of a new party that once they control in that State they end all federal grants, especially education. The next step is to begin to develop independent infrastructure and to vote for independence. Also, during this process the State should end all co-operation with any federal agencies. It will take time, but freedom can be achieved without violence.

We see States/Cities ignoring the federal govt already with the sanctuary movement, there is no reason freedom loving people can't do the same.

[libertybele]

You're right.

The answer is to start taking over States by electing people of a new party that once they control in that State they end all federal grants, especially education. The next step is to begin to develop independent infrastructure and to vote for independence. Also, during this process the State should end all co-operation with any federal agencies. It will take time, but freedom can be achieved without violence.

We see States/Cities ignoring the federal govt already with the sanctuary movement, there is no reason freedom loving people can't do the same.

Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct.  That type of revolution will not be televised. 

He did mention however that there maybe a time where "we the people" may need to fight for our freedom...he didn't specify or promote violence, nor do I, but I do see it as a possibility. People can't be attacked and not be expected to defend themselves and fight back.

[bilo]

Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct.  That type of revolution will not be televised. 

He did mention however that there maybe a time where "we the people" may need to fight for our freedom...he didn't specify or promote violence, nor do I, but I do see it as a possibility. People can't be attacked and not be expected to defend themselves and fight back.

We agree. I sure don't want to shoot at police or military. If it's bunch of BLM or Antifa thugs it's a different deal.

The trick to the revolution I'm supportive of is it's from the ground up. By the time the leftists get cranked up it's too late the State, or States, that no longer want anything to do with the federal overlords are legally entitled to refuse aid and thus eliminate the strings that come attached. Also, the States don't have to be helpful to any federal agencies and can make things increasingly difficult for them. At some point in that process the left will start asking themselves why do we want "Jesusland" a part of the socialist States of America.

It can be done!

Lord knows there are at least 75 million plus of us who are fed up.

[Smokin Joe]

This is true. I've stated it before, notice that they haven't been stopped and very little has been done to curtail the violence, but you can bet once people begin to take action in more conservative areas they will be stopped and the survivors will be incarcerated. Laws will be used against "us" but the lawlessness will be allowed to continue on "their" side.

Amended to reflect what I believe will be a more accurate description of such events, should they transpire.

[Fishrrman]

bele wrote:
"Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct.  That type of revolution will not be televised."

So... tell me...
Which states are currently headed in that direction...?

[bilo]

bele wrote:
"Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct.  That type of revolution will not be televised."

So... tell me...
Which states are currently headed in that direction...?

I think you see the potential for this type of movement throughout most of the South. The crown jewel would be Texas followed by Florida.

[jafo2010]

Wishful thinking.

If the Dems sweep Georgia, this nation is over.  The people will be quickly disarmed, the empty prisons will fill quickly with those not cooperating.

Reminds me of the movie The Patriot.  The role played by Mel Gibson.  He sounded like many of you.  'I do not see the need for violence.'  He said it repeatedly until his son was shot dead, then and only then reality came crashing down on him.  But he still had his weapons!!!!!  As did his fellow men of South Carolina.

The Dems know they need to disarm America to complete the full take over and enslavement of the American people and merger into the globalist slave society.

So violence is essential to stopping this.  And I mean severe violence.  The dispatch of all that are globalists, liberals etc if you want to survive.  There will be no gray area!  France dispatched 17,000 folks with their revolution, lopping heads off all day long.  You can multiply that number by about 1,000 if you want to end this take over of our government.

And succession will not accomplish much either.  I just do not see it.