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China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« on: December 14, 2020, 03:47:13 am »
Lawrence Person's BattleSwarm Blog 12/13/2020

Is China’s military a paper tiger that will fail miserably in real combat? So argues this video:


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The narrator claims that some of the formidable picture we have of the Chinese military is due to China’s successful propaganda machine. He outlines three reasons to believe China’s military is weaker than it appears:

1.   Both former and current People’s Liberation Army personal feel extremely disgruntled by their treatment at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party, and their loyalty would not be assured in a serious crisis. They’re also not well-trained, and got their asses kicked by Indian Ghatak reconnaissance troops in the most recent border clash. “Reports indicated they snapped the necks of at least 18 Chinese soldiers.”

2.   China’s air force is ill trained and badly equipped. “The Chinese pilots have very limited exposure when it comes to real battle in the skies or exercise like Red Flag. Unlike American, French, Russian, or Indian pilots they have not been exposed to different tactics implemented by different air forces and air defense battalions.” The Chengdu J-20 fighter, made with stolen American tech, is not particularly stealthy, has no export customers, and China is still buying Russian Su-35s. “Chinese avionics, sensor technology, and electronic warfare capabilities are generations behind American or European ones.”

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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2020, 03:53:28 am »
Lawrence Person's BattleSwarm Blog 12/13/2020
Is China’s military a paper tiger that will fail miserably in real combat? So argues this video
The narrator claims that some of the formidable picture we have of the Chinese military is due to China’s successful propaganda machine. He outlines three reasons to believe China’s military is weaker than it appears:
1.Both former and current People’s Liberation Army personal feel extremely disgruntled by their treatment at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party, and their loyalty would not be assured in a serious crisis. They’re also not well-trained, and got their asses kicked by Indian Ghatak reconnaissance troops in the most recent border clash. “Reports indicated they snapped the necks of at least 18 Chinese soldiers.”
2.China’s air force is ill trained and badly equipped. “The Chinese pilots have very limited exposure when it comes to real battle in the skies or exercise like Red Flag. Unlike American, French, Russian, or Indian pilots they have not been exposed to different tactics implemented by different air forces and air defense battalions.” The Chengdu J-20 fighter, made with stolen American tech, is not particularly stealthy, has no export customers, and China is still buying Russian Su-35s. “Chinese avionics, sensor technology, and electronic warfare capabilities are generations behind American or European ones.
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The power on the Pacific Rim, for the past 200 years, remains Japan.

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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2020, 04:18:45 am »
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The power on the Pacific Rim, for the past 200 years, remains Japan.

Moot.

The Chinese are not planning a land invasion of the West.  This is unnecessary.  They have been invading the United States through land purchases and infiltration of economic, cultural, law enforcement and political institutions.  The installation of Joe Biden as the head of government in the country at the top of the Western food chain is the CCP's cherry on the smartest strategy in modern history.

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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2020, 04:52:52 am »
Emerald Robinson
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Dec 3: @DNI_Ratcliffe in WSJ op-ed says China has targeted members of Congress.

Dec 8: Eric Swalwell & Fang Fang story breaks.

Dec. 9: @SecPompeo says China has infiltrated many U.S. colleges at GA Tech.

Dec 12: Media covers leaked CCP database of 2 million secret members.


9:59 AM · Dec 13, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1338136563797041154

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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2020, 05:40:48 pm »
[quote author=Right_in_Virginia link=topic=422675.msg2344438#msg2344438 date=1607919525
The Chinese are not planning a land invasion of the West.  This is unnecessary.  They have been invading the United States through land purchases and infiltration of economic, cultural, law enforcement and political institutions.  The installation of Joe Biden as the head of government in the country at the top of the Western food chain is the CCP's cherry on the smartest strategy in modern history.
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Apparently you wish to discuss this matter seriously, a welcome change.
Agree that China's strategy w/the USA is one of stealth which they realize
they can implement easily; as our so call "leaders"; all of them, have
traded any principles they might have had, for influence and money.
As a result these leaders have closed eyes & minds when dealing w/China
as well an open hands and wallet.
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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2020, 05:55:02 pm »
[quote author=Right_in_Virginia link=topic=422675.msg2344438#msg2344438 date=1607919525
The Chinese are not planning a land invasion of the West.  This is unnecessary.  They have been invading the United States through land purchases and infiltration of economic, cultural, law enforcement and political institutions.  The installation of Joe Biden as the head of government in the country at the top of the Western food chain is the CCP's cherry on the smartest strategy in modern history.

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Apparently you wish to discuss this matter seriously, a welcome change.
Agree that China's strategy w/the USA is one of stealth which they realize
they can implement easily; as our so call "leaders"; all of them, have
traded any principles they might have had, for influence and money.
As a result these leaders have closed eyes & minds when dealing w/China
as well an open hand and wallet.

You are 100% correct on general basis,  but if you have monitored the finanical aspects of the internal economic well being of China, you would have read, that the Chicoms are hurting worse than they are letting on.  Equities are stagnant vs. others, and some of their most strong corporate bellweather bonds are trading just above junk status right now. Their internal economy is on the edge, and they are basically trading in some aspects at a loss.

A big chunk of that sucess is /was Trump's staring down the Chicoms in a trade game of high stakes chicken.

Now that Trump has been effectively been pushed aside by an incoming  CHICOM supportive and cooperative Biden  administration, that all will be effectively erased.  Thanks to those who chose not to re-elect this POTUS, and those who possibly enacted the electoral fraud.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2020, 05:59:40 pm »
You are 100% correct on general basis,  but if you have monitored the finanical aspects of the internal economic well being of China, you would have read, that the Chicoms are hurting worse than they are letting on.  Equities are stagnant vs. others, and some of their most strong corporate bellweather bonds are trading just above junk status right now. Their internal economy is on the edge, and they are basically trading in some aspects at a loss.
A big chunk of that sucess was Trump's staring down the Chicoms in a game of high stakes chicken.
Now that Trump has been effectively been pushed aside by an incoming  CHICOM supportive and cooperative Biden  administration, that all will be effectively erased.  Thanks to those who chose not to re-elect this POTUS, and those who possibly enacted the electoral fraud.
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Opinions are free, as you're aware.
Was never a fan of Trump, past, present or future; so good riddance to him.
Our malaise is attributable to "politics/politicians".
When we embrace those of principle we will find our way out of chaos.
The likes of Biden, Trump and all the rest of them are certainly not the answer!!!!

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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2020, 06:01:44 pm »
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AAll opinions are f

Maybe the most sense you've ever made.   happy77
« Last Edit: December 14, 2020, 06:03:10 pm by catfish1957 »
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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2020, 01:13:58 am »
I know this like I know my name, the betrayal of the American people will continue full speed ahead by a man that should be headed to a scaffold for a rope, and is headed to be the most powerful pawn perhaps in human history.  In effect, the USA will become a full blown territory of China, and we are only one step behind Hong Kong in our total submission to the CCP.
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Re: China’s Military: A Paper Tiger?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2020, 02:55:00 am »
I know this like I know my name, the betrayal of the American people will continue full speed ahead by a man that should be headed to a scaffold for a rope, and is headed to be the most powerful pawn perhaps in human history.  In effect, the USA will become a full blown territory of China, and we are only one step behind Hong Kong in our total submission to the CCP
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Hmm............so the USA will become a full blown territory of China, will they?????
One of the most embarrassingly ludicrous opinions ever uttered.
China, a 4,000 year old autocratic culture/society, has never been a threat to anyone
but their own people, for a core reason.
They have never developed the creativity, imagination and leadership required of Great Nations. Never!!!
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