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Would you attend a rally organized by two neo nazis? Or do you deny they are such?

Trump clearly said "protesters"

And no president should say that about any law abiding person exercising their first amendment rights.  "Get the son of a bitch off the field"

Its an abhorrent statement

Trump did nothing to negate these idiots right to be fools...asking their private employer to “Get the son of a bitch off the field” is perfectly appropriate. Do you think employers can’t fire dim witted employees who harangue their patrons with political ideology? What’s clear here is that you have zero understanding of what a Constitutional right actually is. The people Trump referred to have a right to be “sons of bitches on the field” and their employers have every right to fire them for this...which is what Trump called for...and he was right to do so.

As for the Charlotte rally...I 100% guarantee you, most folks there had no clue who initially called the rally AND Trump was speaking not just of folks on site in Charlotte but also if anyone opposed to the wanton tearing down of national monuments. So yes, good people have opinions on both sides of such an argument...most on this site are part of the people the President was referring to as “good people”.
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Trump did nothing to negate these idiots right to be fools...asking the private employer of such morons to “Get the son of a bitch off the field” is perfectly appropriate. Do you think employers can’t fire dim witted employees who harangue their patrons with political ideology? What’s clear here is that you have zero understanding of what a Constitutional right actually is. The people Trump referred to have a right to be “sons of bitches on the field” and their employers have every right to fire them for this...which is what Trump called for...and he was right to do so.

As for the Charlotte rally...I 100% guarantee you most folks there had no clue who initially called the rally AND trump was speaking not just of folks on site in Charlotte but also if anyone opposed to the wanton tearing down of national monuments. So yes, good people have opinions on both sides of such an argument...most on this site are part of the people the President was referring to as “good people”.

1.  Its not the same when it's the head of the executive branch of the federal govt saying that.  If you don't understand that inherently , youre never going to sadly

2.  Anyone on this site that went to the rally organized by 2 neo nazis is not a "good person" and monuments traitors to this nation have no place in public places.  I dont care about the left wing anti American assholes on the left. Im not part of them and this is about the presidents words.  And those words helped lose the election, bigly.

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1.  Its not the same when it's the head of the executive branch of the federal govt saying that.  If you don't understand that inherently , you're never going to sadly Constitutionally, its exactly the same. You REALLY need to take a civics class. President's and citizens can condemn anything they want...and express any opinion they want as per that sacred document. The President did not use the powers of government to silence or remove political discourse with which he disagreed...he called someone a son of a bitch...correctly...and said that said person's employer should remove said a-hole from the field. That's merely an expression of opinion, and yes, even president's are still free to express any damn opinion they want.

2.  Anyone on this site that went to the rally organized by 2 neo nazis is not a "good person" and monuments traitors to this nation have no place in public places.  I don't care about the left wing anti American assholes on the left. Im not part of them and this is about the presidents words.  And those words helped lose the election, bigly. IF you are not "part of the left wing anti-American assholes"...you are clearly someone who has swallowed whole the bogus narrative they've shoved at you. Statues of George Washington are being torn down by liberal mobs...are you really claiming that Washington is a "traitor to the nation". Further, even if a statue should come down...is that decision up to a mob or is it one that should be made by elected civic leadership? Not sure which is worse...being the liar, or believing the poorly disguised lie. Again, Trump's statement asserted that there are good human beings on both sides of the issue of tearing down national monuments...not that there are good people who side with neo-nazis. Your persisting in such a false description of his assertion shows an embarrassing inability to understand the English language.

You are clearly neither a conservative nor a Republican...so why ARE you here? That said, if you were an openly admitted Leftist and a liberal who could make a rational case for your views...I'd welcome the discussion with you. Unfortunately, all you seem capable of doing is regurgitating a few clearly false narratives...like misquoting the president's comments about good people on both sides in Charlotte.
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You are clearly neither a conservative nor a Republican...so why ARE you here? That said, if you were an openly admitted Leftist and a liberal who could make a rational case for your views...I'd welcome the discussion with you. Unfortunately, all you seem capable of doing is regurgitating a few clearly false narratives...like misquoting the president's comments about good people on both sides in Charlotte.

I have an ambarrasing inability to understand the English language, yet you've either purposefully set up two strawman, or are apparently just as lousy with English as I am.

Its very clear we were talking about the presidents words costing him, not what he is constitutionally allowed to say.

And I specifically said that traitors shouldn't get statues in public spaces, not that Washington shouldn't, nor did I ever agree that mob rule should determine the fate of the statues.

I made specific points and you've expanded it outside those points, putting words i didn say or agree with in my mouth.  Itshows me you cannot argue against my points so you argue against superficially sounding close ones. 

And my comprehension skills are suspect...jesus...

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@Knox27 and @Mesaclone are not the topics of this thread. End the personal attacks and snarks.

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Let me pose a question to those who think this is a good idea: if this were any other President than Donald Trump, would you still support it?

Take the person out of it, and would your response still be the same?
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@Knox27 and @Mesaclone are not the topics of this thread. End the personal attacks and snarks.

There goes the fun.
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Flynn, a ranking Officer lied under oath, committing perjury, then blathered that it's was all
some sorta unforced error and later Trump pardoned him.
In earlier times such an Officer would have been dishonorably discharged for such disgraceful
behavior that violates the Military Code of Conduct Officers are required to uphold.
Now Flynn calls for Trump to suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law!!!
* Does a severe neurotic like Trump know a solitary soul that is not a fraud/hustler?????????
* How did Flynn's character permit him to become an Officer?????????
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Let me pose a question to those who think this is a good idea: if this were any other President than Donald Trump, would you still support it?

Take the person out of it, and would your response still be the same?

Yep, this place would have gone mental if it was someone connected to Obama proposing this.

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j. myrle asked:
"Let me pose a question to those who think this is a good idea: if this were any other President than Donald Trump, would you still support it?"

I'd support Augusto Pinochet.

I'm not kidding you.
I really would.

(That's the only way we're ever really going to get rid of the communists here...)

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Yep, this place would have gone mental if it was someone connected to Obama proposing this.

Obama the communist? Yeah, I probably would have.

I do feel differently about extreme measures taken to prevent socialists stealing my republic. Kinda like Japan bombing the sh*t out of Oahu is different than the US firebombing Tokyo.

Call me a hypocrite.
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j. myrle asked:
"Let me pose a question to those who think this is a good idea: if this were any other President than Donald Trump, would you still support it?"

I'd support Augusto Pinochet.

I'm not kidding you.
I really would.

Me too...plus it would provide another use of all the soccer stadiums.    :laugh:

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Me too...plus it would provide another use of all the soccer stadiums.    :laugh:

(That's the only way we're ever really going to get rid of the communists here...)

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Me too...plus it would provide another use of all the soccer stadiums.    :laugh:

(That's the only way we're ever really going to get rid of the communists here...)

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Flynn, a ranking Officer lied under oath, committing perjury, then blathered that it's was all
some sorta unforced error and later Trump pardoned him.
In earlier times such an Officer would have been dishonorably discharged for such disgraceful
behavior that violates the Military Code of Conduct Officers are required to uphold.
Now Flynn call for Trump to suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law!!!
* Does a severe neurotic like Trump know a solitary soul that is not a fraud/hustler?????????
* How did Flynn's character permit him to become an Officer?????????

"Lied under oath?"  Would that be the pleading guilty after being extorted by Mueller?  Or are you talking about something substantive, like the perjury trap by Strozk?  If so, you might want to brush up on your ancient history a bit to refresh your memory what "under oath" means.

(Your excessive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!s and ???????????????????????????s are annoying as Hell, and make you look like you are 8 years old.  J/S)
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Obama the communist? Yeah, I probably would have.

I do feel differently about extreme measures taken to prevent socialists stealing my republic. Kinda like Japan bombing the sh*t out of Oahu is different than the US firebombing Tokyo.

Call me a hypocrite.

Obammy the communist will be leading from the sidelines.
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Talk about an unforced error.

A bit O/T, a friend and I discussed the election a few days ago. We both voted for Trump, and we both agreed that Trump would have won had he toned down his rhetoric 2-3 months before the election. His bombast only serves to keep his base happy, while turning off independents and moderates. 

Personally, I had hoped for Trump to act more presidential, but that was not to be.

Now we're discussing suspending the Constitution? The clown show has got to stop.
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"The clown show has got to stop."

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Maybe I missed it, but I don't believe that Trump has actually been quoted saying that he was going to suspend the Constitution and declare martial law.

Supposedly this is something that was "suggested" by Flynn -- I'm not buying that story either.
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"Lied under oath?"  Would that be the pleading guilty after being extorted by Mueller?  Or are you talking about something substantive, like the perjury trap by Strozk?  If so, you might want to brush up on your ancient history a bit to refresh your memory what "under oath" means.
(Your excessive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!s and ???????????????????????????s are annoying as Hell, and make you look like you are 8 years old.  J/S)
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Flynn was pardoned by Trump for a felony; lying under oath! Got it?

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Flynn was pardoned by Trump for a felony; lying under oath! Got it?

What exactly was the lie?  In what venue?  Be sure and provide a source link.  I'm sure that would be 30 seconds of work for a genius like you.
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